Head of Hamas government in Gaza eliminated

[Truth Detector]

T. A. Gardner hates Arabs just as Israel does, and simply wants all Arabs eradicated off the face of the planet. He wants a winner as long as the winner is Israel and the Arabs are wiped clean away.

 

[Truth Detector]

And I asked about "current Gazan citizens."

Sorry. You kind of owned yourself on this one.

Current Gazan citizens support Hamas whom they elected in a landslide you brainless dunce.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uIKWYbpP8E&rco=1

 

[BartenderElite]

That's so embarrassing.

An election almost 20 years ago. And 40% of current Gazans are children.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Great news! MoonBat will be in mourning.

Do you think he had a pager...?

 

[IBDaMann]

Most recently, you insanely say I am asking you to prove a negative.

You absurdly demanded that I prove that Hamas, the civilian administrators of Gaza, have no control over Iran's militant terrorist proxy.

You might be new to this whole formal logic thing, but yes, you are asking me to prove a negative, and you are doing so in order to EVADE your obligation to show how Hamas, the now dead administrators of Gaza, somehow control Al Qassam.

So, let's reel you back in and have you show how Hamas, the now dead administrators of Gaza, somehow control Al Qassam ... because all of your arguments rest on this assumption. What you are slow to pick up is that Hamas, the now dead civilian administrators of Gaza, never had any control of any of Iran's militant terrorist proxies, which means that all of your arguments are dismissed. All of them. You don't have a leg on which to stand. Nonetheless, I'm willing to help you take the baby steps you need to achieve the necessary realization of your misconceptions, even if you never fully grasp the necessary logic.

The - ball - is - in - your - court - to - show - that - Gaza's - civilian - administrators - somehow - controlled - Iran's - terrorist - proxies.

We can't move forward until you meet your burden. Until you do, all of your arguments are dismissed. I will add that merely quoting unsubstantiated claims of other Team Israel members/publications will be discarded.

 

[IBDaMann]

Israel has 1.9 million Arabs out of 9 million people, Jordan has ZERO Jews out of 38 Million people.

Irrelevant.

But you claim Israel is engaged in ethnic cleaning [in Gaza]?

FTFY. Yes. It's not so much my claim as it is the definition of "genocide" that Israel ratified. I'm just going with what Israel says. If you've got a problem with Israel's international agreements, you need to take it up with Israel.

You simply lie and accuse Jews of doing what you are doing.

1. You make repeated baseless accusations of my having lied.
2. You keep trying to extend this from "Israel" to "Jews."
3. You keep misrepresenting my position because you can't find any errors in my actual position, and your own support of the IDF's genocide is indefensible.

 

[IBDaMann]

Not quite, but soon.

Nope. They're dead. The IDF actively targetted the unarmed administrators from the start and recently finished them off. The unarmed civilian population was simply slaughtered in their sleep, or while in school, or while being treated in a hospital from the IDF's previously inflicted wounds, or while buying bread, or while evacuating as ordered by the IDF, or while rendering aid as aid workers.

Yet still could buy thousands of rockets and missiles to fire into residential neighborhoods.

That was Iran. You are deliberately conflating again to dishonestly make the genocide you support appear righteous.

Still had enough to buy guns

Nope. Hamas was formed as a charitable organization and has always relied on donations/contributions, i.e. they have always been broke. You are referring to Al Qassam who is well funded by Iran.

Since 1979, Iran has been the only attacker of Israel.

so that every 6 year old had an AK-47 to kill Jews with.

Back to sneaking in the word "Jews" in place of "Israelis".

Only the Israelis have weapons. Only the Israelis are doing any attacking; the Arabs they are slaughtering aren't able to fight back. Your argument that Israel must perpetrate genocide on unarmed Arab civilians who never attacked Israel based on your ridiculous and wholly unsupported declaration that all Arabs are somehow dedicated to eradicating "Jews" ... is entirely preposterous.

Your lies convince no one.

Remind me how your absurd and indefensible positions somehow equate to lying on my part.

 

[IBDaMann]

[speechless and unable to justify Israel's illegal assassinations of innocent civilians]

I feel for you. It's one hell of a rude awakening to find out that you were gullible, fell for vile disinformation from people and sources you trusted, and ended up supporting, nay, cheering on a genocide of innocent civilians who never attacked anyone.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

You absurdly demanded that I prove that Hamas, the civilian administrators of Gaza, have no control over Iran's militant terrorist proxy.

I demanded the opposite. Prove Iran does have control over them. Your saying so is not proof, nor is saying they are funded in part or whole, by Iran.

You might be new to this whole formal logic thing, but yes, you are asking me to prove a negative, and you are doing so in order to EVADE your obligation to show how Hamas, the now dead administrators of Gaza, somehow control Al Qassam.

I showed you who the known leaders of the Al Qassam brigades are and that they are some of the highest placed leadership in Hamas. If Iran controls them, what Iranian general, politician, or whatever is doing so. Name them.

So, let's reel you back in and have you show how Hamas, the now dead administrators of Gaza, somehow control Al Qassam ... because all of your arguments rest on this assumption. What you are slow to pick up is that Hamas, the now dead civilian administrators of Gaza, never had any control of any of Iran's militant terrorist proxies, which means that all of your arguments are dismissed. All of them. You don't have a leg on which to stand. Nonetheless, I'm willing to help you take the baby steps you need to achieve the necessary realization of your misconceptions, even if you never fully grasp the necessary logic.

When a political leader or general is killed in a war, somebody replaces them. No different here, and the replacement is someone in Hamas just as the original leadership was. Your saying differently without any proof means nothing!

The - ball - is - in - your - court - to - show - that - Gaza's - civilian - administrators - somehow - controlled - Iran's - terrorist - proxies.

I already did, with multiple sources.

We can't move forward until you meet your burden. Until you do, all of your arguments are dismissed. I will add that merely quoting unsubstantiated claims of other Team Israel members/publications will be discarded.

Now you are making an argument to the stone defense.

 

[IBDaMann]

Yo, ignorant brainless moron on steroids; he was a terrorist leader.

Nope. He was an innocent civilian administrator. The claims you are unquestionaly absorbing are all false. You should have at least asked the important questions like "What did he do?" and "What evidence is there for this?" You didn't ask any questions. You simply regurgitated what you were ordered to believe and to propagate.

[speechless]

So, to the best of your knowledge, you aren't aware of any crime he committed, and thus you have no reason to believe that Israel was justified in any way in its illegal assassination beyond your gullibility and your blind OBEDIENCE.

 

[IBDaMann]

The Geneva Convention does not cover Hamas

All conventions apply directly to all signatories. Israel is a signatory to the Geneva Conventions and to the Convention against Genocide. Israel has ratified the definition of genocide and has agreed before the international community to never perpetrate it, yet is doing so egregiously. Israel has ratified the IV Geneva Convention which specifies what Israel is not allowed to do to civilians, yet Israel is committing hundreds of counts of violations every day.

The Geneva Conventions apply and are enough to get many members of the IDF and of the Israeli government hanged in fair tribunals.

 

[IBDaMann]

I demanded the opposite. Prove Iran does have control over them.

You and the rest of the world acknowledge Iran's funding of Al Qassam, Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad. You, however, strangely assume that Iran funds these groups for them to do the bidding of others beside Iran, because that is what you need to assume in order for you to justify your support for Israel's genocide of unarmed Arabs who never attacked Israel.

To this end, you dishonestly pretend that Al Qassam, Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad are soveriegn countries who are simply receiving aid, and thus pretend that Iran somehow has no control over what it is receiving for its funding. Al Qassam, Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad are terror groups, not sovereign countries, and as such, they have to OBEY those funding them.

So, no ... you need to show that despite Iran providing the funding that Gazan administrators nonetheless somehow control Iran's proxies.

I recommend you just stop supporting the IDF's genocide and hold Israel accountable for violating the conventions to which they are signatories.

 

[IBDaMann]

They voted for Hamas, a terrorist group,

Nope. You are conflating two separate groups in order to support a genocide of Arabs who never attacked anyone.

Hamas is a charitable organization that became a political party and assumed the administration of Gaza. Al Qassam is a wholly unaffiliated militant terrorist group and proxy of Iran, well funded by Iran and dedicated to destroying Israel. You can't say "Hamas" when you mean "Al Qassam" and you can't speak of terrorist groups when you want to address Hamas. Hamas has always been broke and without any ability to attack or fight anyone.

Also, voting for someone never merits a death sentence. You have to be inhuman to think that.

Since 1979, Iran has been the only attacker of Israel, through its proxies Al Qassam, Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad. Hamas are civilian administrators and they are all dead now, having been assassinated by the IDF in violation of the Geneva Conventions.

They broke the ceasefire

Israel is the only breaker of cease-fires, and Israel has, in fact, broken every cease-fire.

and slaughtered more than 1000 Israelis including children.

Hamas hasn't killed anyone. Iran attacked Israel on Oct-7 via Al Qassam. Israel should have invaded Iran if they were seeking retribution for the Oct-7 attack, but Netanyahoo wanted the boost in the polls, so he seized on the general confusion and ignorance of the situation and initiated a genocide of innocent, unarmed Arabs who never attacked Israel.

Now they are screaming because Israel is doing what is necessary to prevent another slaughter.

Nope. Israel has NEVER invaded Iran. Israel has never addressed Iran's attacking of Israel, and since 1979, Iran has been the only attacker of Israel. Israel has done nothing to prevent another slaughter but has instead ensured that attacks will continue forever because Iran always attacks without any fear of retribution.

As far as Israel is concerned, slaughtering the Arabs that they HATE is far greater a priority than preventing Oct-7th-type attacks, even knowing that the IDF are slaughtering defensless Arabs who never attacked Israel and who cannot possibly fight back.

The IDF is currently the world's most active terrorist organization and Israel is perpetrating a genocide in violation of the Convention against Genocide to which Israel and the US are signatories.

It’s what any nation would do.

Nope. Plenty of other countries, such as the United States, have shown that diplomacy can succeed without the use of genocide.

 

[IBDaMann]

Hamas are/is terrorist There are no rules

Al Qassam is the terrorist organization in this equation. Al Qassam is Iran's proxy, being funded by Iran with roughly $100 million annually, and is not affiliated with Hamas in any way. Al Qassam perpetrated the Oct-7th attack at the behest of Iran.

Hamas, Gazas administrators, didn't even know about the attack until it happened. Israel, has been aware all this time that Iran (via Al Qassam) was the attacker.

 

[IBDaMann]

They don't cover terrorists hiding behind civilians you dumb ignorant dumb fuck.

The IDF has been indiscriminantly slaughtering innocent Arab noncombatants along with all Arabs who coincidentally happen to be behind them. Yes, the Geneva Conventions delineate every single count of such as a war crime punishable by death.

 

[Into the Night]

That's so embarrassing.

An election almost 20 years ago. And 40% of current Gazans are children.

...and warped to be violent against Israel almost from the day they can walk.

Don't try to claim a liking for children. You hate children.

 

[Into the Night]

You absurdly demanded that I prove that Hamas, the civilian administrators of Gaza, have no control over Iran's militant terrorist proxy.

He never asked for that. Mantra 30a. Lame.

You might be new to this whole formal logic thing,

It is YOU locked in multiple paradoxes, IBD. It is YOU committing fallacy after fallacy. You cannot blame your problems on anybody else! Inversion fallacy.

but yes, you are asking me to prove a negative,

Fallacy fallacy. He is asking for counterargument and evidence for it.

and you are doing so in order to EVADE your obligation to show how Hamas, the now dead administrators of Gaza, somehow control Al Qassam.

You are still locked in this paradox.

So, let's reel you back in and have you show how Hamas, the now dead administrators of Gaza, somehow control Al Qassam ... because all of your arguments rest on this assumption. What you are slow to pick up is that Hamas, the now dead civilian administrators of Gaza, never had any control of any of Iran's militant terrorist proxies, which means that all of your arguments are dismissed. All of them. You don't have a leg on which to stand. Nonetheless, I'm willing to help you take the baby steps you need to achieve the necessary realization of your misconceptions, even if you never fully grasp the necessary logic.

You are still locked in this paradox. It is YOU being irrational. Inversion fallacy.

The - ball - is - in - your - court - to - show - that - Gaza's - civilian - administrators - somehow - controlled - Iran's - terrorist - proxies.

You are still locked in this paradox.

We can't move forward until you meet your burden.

He met his burden. He provided evidence for his argument. Argument of the Stone fallacy. Burden fallacy.

Until you do, all of your arguments are dismissed.

Argument of the Stone fallacy.

I will add that merely quoting unsubstantiated claims of other Team Israel members/publications will be discarded.

Argument of the Stone fallacy. Bulverism fallacy.

No argument presented.

 

[Into the Night]

Irrelevant.

Fallacy fallacy. The statement was quite relevant.

FTFY. Yes. It's not so much my claim as it is the definition of "genocide" that Israel ratified. I'm just going with what Israel says. If you've got a problem with Israel's international agreements, you need to take it up with Israel.

Evasion. Answer the question put to you. Don't modify a question and answer that. You are still locked in this paradox. There is no genocide.

1. You make repeated baseless accusations of my having lied.

Blatant lie (denial). You have lied, and you continue to lie.

2. You keep trying to extend this from "Israel" to "Jews."

Because it's an attack on Jews, not just Israel.

3. You keep misrepresenting my position because you can't find any errors in my actual position, and your own support of the IDF's genocide is indefensible.

Fallacy fallacy. His description is accurate. You are still locked in this paradox. There is no genocide.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

You and the rest of the world acknowledge Iran's funding of Al Qassam, Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad. You, however, strangely assume that Iran funds these groups for them to do the bidding of others beside Iran, because that is what you need to assume in order for you to justify your support for Israel's genocide of unarmed Arabs who never attacked Israel.

Does the United States fund--often heavily fund the militaries of a number of nations expecting those nations to do the US's bidding and be put under US command? As I pointed out, unless YOU can show that Iran is running things, you got nothing. Funding does not equal having control of a military.

To this end, you dishonestly pretend that Al Qassam, Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad are soveriegn countries who are simply receiving aid, and thus pretend that Iran somehow has no control over what it is receiving for its funding. Al Qassam, Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad are terror groups, not sovereign countries, and as such, they have to OBEY those funding them.

This is just more of your bullshit opinion. YOU GOT NOTHING! You aren't proving anything with that line of personal bullshit.

So, no ... you need to show that despite Iran providing the funding that Gazan administrators nonetheless somehow control Iran's proxies.

I have shown exactly that. You just don't want to accept it.

I recommend you just stop supporting the IDF's genocide and hold Israel accountable for violating the conventions to which they are signatories.

I suggest you stop being an antisemitic asshole and show us some proof to back your insane claims.

 

[Into the Night]

Nope. They're dead. The IDF actively targetted the unarmed administrators from the start and recently finished them off. The unarmed civilian population was simply slaughtered in their sleep, or while in school, or while being treated in a hospital from the IDF's previously inflicted wounds, or while buying bread, or while evacuating as ordered by the IDF, or while rendering aid as aid workers.

You are still locked in this paradox. Hamas isn't 'unarmed administrator'.

That was Iran. You are deliberately conflating again to dishonestly make the genocide you support appear righteous.

Hamas is not Iran. You are still locked in these two paradoxes. There is no genocide.

Nope. Hamas was formed as a charitable organization and has always relied on donations/contributions, i.e. they have always been broke. You are referring to Al Qassam who is well funded by Iran.

A terrorist group is not a 'charitable organization', You are still locked in this paradox. Redefinition fallacy.

Since 1979, Iran has been the only attacker of Israel.

Blatant lie (denial).

Back to sneaking in the word "Jews" in place of "Israelis".

He's not 'sneaking' anything. All Jews are affected.

Only the Israelis have weapons.

Blatant lie (denial).

Only the Israelis are doing any attacking;

Blatant lie (denial). You are still locked in this paradox.

the Arabs they are slaughtering aren't able to fight back.

Blatant lie (denial). You are still locked in this paradox.

Your argument that Israel must perpetrate genocide on unarmed Arab civilians who never attacked Israel based on your ridiculous and wholly unsupported declaration that all Arabs are somehow dedicated to eradicating "Jews" ... is entirely preposterous.

Mantra 30a. Lame. You are still locked in this paradox. There is no genocide. Hamas attacked Israel. So have other terrorist groups.

Remind me how your absurd and indefensible positions somehow equate to lying on my part.

Assumption of victory fallacy. Inversion fallacy.