How will Donald Trump pay the $438m he owes in penalties from civil trials?

Trump broke no laws or, if he did, then every developer in the state of New York is now potentially libel for not listing real estate assets and such on loan forms with banks to the satisfaction of state prosecutors and judges. That is, any real estate developer in New York could be sued, as Trump was, by the state because the state disagrees with their assessment of their properties even when the bank agreed to terms and was paid back in full.

Essentially, for anyone who develops real estate, New York is now a potential minefield that could destroy them at any time on the whim of a state or local prosecutor who doesn't like them. Any sane real estate developer would be sensible to flee the state taking all their assets with them, and selling off any they can't.

Terry what do you think about this scenario :

-New Mortgage Brokerage opens tomorrow and they target people who were 'turned down for loans everywhere else', saying 'we can get you mortgages when no one else can'
- the way they do it, is by taking the data they are given from people applying for loans and changing all the derogatory stuff to positive creating NINJA loans and worse.
- This mortgage Broker is outed by a whistleblower employee for his frauds, as he submits his first batch of mortgages to banks
- the police and State AG charge him, fine him and shut his business

Terry is it your view that not only is that not a documents fraud and illegal but the government was wrong to do anything to fine and stop his business? That they needed to wait until the loans were funded and if, and ONLY IF, some of them fail, then they could fine and close him. But as long as the people pay the banks, then 'no fraud', 'no crime'?
 
Trump will declare bankruptcy like Alex Jones did and delay the payments. Jones has still not paid. Trump uses delays as a pattern to fight justice.
 
Trump will declare bankruptcy like Alex Jones did and delay the payments. Jones has still not paid. Trump uses delays as a pattern to fight justice.
Let him. Trump will be as broke as Alex Jones. Given Trump is as greedy for money as I believe him to be, he won't declare bankruptcy.
 
Terry what do you think about this scenario :

-New Mortgage Brokerage opens tomorrow and they target people who were 'turned down for loans everywhere else', saying 'we can get you mortgages when no one else can'
- the way they do it, is by taking the data they are given from people applying for loans and changing all the derogatory stuff to positive creating NINJA loans and worse.
- This mortgage Broker is outed by a whistleblower employee for his frauds, as he submits his first batch of mortgages to banks
- the police and State AG charge him, fine him and shut his business

Terry is it your view that not only is that not a documents fraud and illegal but the government was wrong to do anything to fine and stop his business? That they needed to wait until the loans were funded and if, and ONLY IF, some of them fail, then they could fine and close him. But as long as the people pay the banks, then 'no fraud', 'no crime'?

That is exactly what happened in 2007-8. They destroyed the world economy.
 
That is exactly what happened in 2007-8. They destroyed the world economy.

Yup.

both Terry and Yakuda have been pushing this idea that Documents Fraud cannot be stopped or charged until there is a victim meaning even if a whistleblower reports a new firm writing nothing but fraudulent mortgages and is out trying to get the bank to buy a bundle of them, Terry and Yakuda are saying the prosecutors and police can do NOTHING to that company.

they must allow them to keep trying to find a bank to buy them. If they do, find a bank, they must allow them to buy them and wait until there is defaults to prosecute.

they argue documents fraud are not a thing and do not exist until a person loses money due to it, when a State AG's roll is to be proactive and stop those type of frauds before there are victims.
 
Terry what do you think about this scenario :

-New Mortgage Brokerage opens tomorrow and they target people who were 'turned down for loans everywhere else', saying 'we can get you mortgages when no one else can'
- the way they do it, is by taking the data they are given from people applying for loans and changing all the derogatory stuff to positive creating NINJA loans and worse.
- This mortgage Broker is outed by a whistleblower employee for his frauds, as he submits his first batch of mortgages to banks
- the police and State AG charge him, fine him and shut his business

Terry is it your view that not only is that not a documents fraud and illegal but the government was wrong to do anything to fine and stop his business? That they needed to wait until the loans were funded and if, and ONLY IF, some of them fail, then they could fine and close him. But as long as the people pay the banks, then 'no fraud', 'no crime'?

Attempted proof by contrivance. Trump is not a mortgage broker and banks are responsible for their own due diligence before underwriting any loan they make. It's their own lookout.

Now to your contrivance:
Such a mortgage broker would likely not get a loan from a bank, since the people themselves are really not qualified for them. However, if they DO underwrite the loan, the bank only exposes itself like an idiot. They failed to do due diligence.

It was exactly this kind of idiocy by banks that resulted in the 2007 crash. They were literally issuing loans for anything, suckered in by their own greed and Democrat policies of letting anyone buy a house (qualified or not).

When the loans failed, the banks paid for their mistake, until the federal government came around and massively devalued the currency to try to cover up the mess instead of letting the bad loans naturally unwind.

So instead of preventing the disaster, the federal reserve extended it, causing the economic depression that lasted all through the Obama years and a year into the Trump administration. Obama even called it the 'new normal'. Trump ended that depression.

The current economic depression was AGAIN started by Democrats, when they used fear mongering to shut down and destroy businesses over Covid. That recovery has not yet taken place. Those businesses are GONE and they have NOT been replaced. As before, the 'federal' government is devaluing the currency in an effort to get an economy running again (Keynesian thinking, which doesn't work). This depression has seen a devaluation of 24% so far.

So you you want to accuse banks of fraud, look to the Democrats, that conducted this fraud.
 
both Terry and Yakuda have been pushing this idea that Documents Fraud cannot be stopped or charged until there is a victim meaning even if a whistleblower reports a new firm writing nothing but fraudulent mortgages and is out trying to get the bank to buy a bundle of them, Terry and Yakuda are saying the prosecutors and police can do NOTHING to that company.
That is correct.
they must allow them to keep trying to find a bank to buy them.
That is correct.
If they do, find a bank, they must allow them to buy them and wait until there is defaults to prosecute.
Then is on the bank's responsibility for underwriting such a crappy loan package. If they want to make a loan without conducting due diligence, that the banks' problem, not yours. No law is broken.
they argue documents fraud are not a thing and do not exist until a person loses money due to it,
No document fraud, even if the bank loses money because the loans defaulted. That's the bank's risk. If they want to take stupid risks, that's THEIR problem, not yours. No law is broken.
when a State AG's roll is to be proactive and stop those type of frauds before there are victims.
No fraud. No victim. Just a stupid bank that makes stupid loans and winds up losing money because of it.
 
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