If God were real, you wouldn’t need a book

Ross Dolan said:
You are a mental cripple, Zen.

AS I HAVE SAID DOZENS OF TIMES NOW...AND REPEATED IN MY LAST POST...WE ARE NOT DISCUSSING THE FACT THAT YOU DO NOT "BELIEVE" ANY GODS EXIST.

I ALSO DO NOT "BELIEVE" ANY GODS EXIST.

BUT YOU "BELIEVE" THERE ARE NO GODS.

AND THAT "BELIEF" IS NOTHING MORE THAN A BLIND GUESS.

I, ON THE OTHER HAND, DO NOT "BELIEVE" THERE ARE NO GODS...

...AND I ALSO DO NOT "BELIEVE" THERE ARE NO GODS.

NOT SURE WHAT IT TAKES TO FINALLY GET THAT THROUGH YOU SKULL, BUT I WILL KEEP DRILLING.
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The problem is that you treat the existence of God's in the same way you would treat the flip of a coin, where it truly is a blind guess whether it would be heads or tales.

When there is evidence one way or the other, I don't see it as a blind guess. I see it as a reasoned opinion.

A belief in Santa, given the evidence, isn't a blind guess, IMO, but I don't see how you could see it as anything but a blind guess.
 
ZenMode said:
The problem is that you treat the existence of God's in the same way you would treat the flip of a coin, where it truly is a blind guess whether it would be heads or tales.
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That is exactly what it is...a blind guess that could be arrived at just as easily and logically by a coin toss. Did you designate "head" as "there are no gods"...or as "there is a god?"
ZenMode said:
When there is evidence one way or the other, I don't see it as a blind guess.
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When there is unambiguous evidence one way or the other...neither do I.
ZenMode said:
I see it as a reasoned opinion.
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So do I.

Unfortunately, there is no unambiguous evidence in either direction. That does not stop people from guessing "Yes" or "no" to the question "Is there at least one god?"

That is what you are doing...making a blind guess.

It may be correct...or it may be incorrect.

Can't help but wonder which it is.
ZenMode said:
A belief in Santa, given the evidence, isn't a blind guess, IMO, but I don't see how you could see it as anything but a blind guess.
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Well, that has to do with your ability to think...and see.

If you want to think that the evidence about the existence of Santa Claus is the same as the evidence for the true nature of the REALITY of existence...fine with me. I love a good laugh.
 
ZenMode said:
The problem is that you treat the existence of God's in the same way you would treat the flip of a coin, where it truly is a blind guess whether it would be heads or tales.

When there is evidence one way or the other, I don't see it as a blind guess. I see it as a reasoned opinion.

A belief in Santa, given the evidence, isn't a blind guess, IMO, but I don't see how you could see it as anything but a blind guess.
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the churchy satanists want to expand their cult.

but they don;t want to talk about actual morality.
 
ZenMode said:
If the Bible is full of fictitious events and fictitious people, why believe that the god described in the Bible is real?
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If the Bible is full of real events and real people, why believe that the God described in the Bible is fictitious?
ZenMode said:
The Bible isn't a high school assignment. It's a book that a) many people believe is literally true, including what you write off as hyperbole or metaphor
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There are numerous literary styles utilized in the Bible. Some parts are literal, some parts are metaphors, some parts are symbolism, etc etc... Context matters.
ZenMode said:
and b) believers use as the basis for structuring their lives.
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Yup. The Bible is a very good book to use to structure one's life. There's a lot of wisdom throughout it.
ZenMode said:
If you are writing off the miraculous events in the Bible, which are the basis for God and divine Jesus, why believe there is a god?
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I'm not the one writing off the miraculous events.
 
Ross Dolan said:
Well, that has to do with your ability to think...and see.

If you want to think that the evidence about the existence of Santa Claus is the same as the evidence for the true nature of the REALITY of existence...fine with me. I love a good laugh.
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What evidence exists FOR gods that doesn't exist FOR Santa?
 
gfm7175 said:
If the Bible is full of real events and real people, why believe that the God described in the Bible is fictitious?

There are numerous literary styles utilized in the Bible. Some parts are literal, some parts are metaphors, some parts are symbolism, etc etc... Context matters.

Yup. The Bible is a very good book to use to structure one's life. There's a lot of wisdom throughout it.

I'm not the one writing off the miraculous events.
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all you need is the golden rule.

throw the racism away.
 
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