Is agnosticism a cop-out?

[Ross Dolan]

We don't disagree. I'm just pointing out the ridiculousness of IBDaMann saying that atheism does NOT mean "Someone who doesn't believe in gods".

If that were true, then there should be a separate word that means 'someone who doesn't believe in gods".

Sorry, I did not realize that. I have him on IGNORE...so I do not see what he writes.

 

[Bai Lan]

We don't disagree. I'm just pointing out the ridiculousness of IBDaMann saying that atheism does NOT mean "Someone who doesn't believe in gods".

If that were true, then there should be a separate word that means 'someone who doesn't believe in gods".

destroying language and meaning is a big tip off that someone an illuminati operative.

 

[IBDaMann]

What word means "A lack of belief in gods" since, you know, adeist and adeism aren't words?

"adeist" and "adeism" are certainly words.

 

[IBDaMann]

And as for "the definition of atheism is well established"...well, I think not. The "definition" (actually, the usage) is the result of a false etymological root.

@ZenMode, Ross Dolan, aka Frank Apisa, is actually more cowardly and more of a liar than you are. If you are asking him for his take on an issue, I feel sorry for you. If one were to ask "How do you get worse than ZenMode?" then the answer is to get ZenMode to ask Ross Dolan's opinion.

 

[IBDaMann]

it's an atheistic assertion.

You have returned to not making any sense.

To what specific assertion are you referring, and why is the assertion's asynchronous, atheistic, amoral, atypical, asymmetrical and apolitical nature of any relevance?

 

[IBDaMann]

im sorry you're stupid and can't read.

The contraction "I'm" both requires an apostraphe and should be followed by a comma.

I can read, and I see that you are a raving lunatic.

 

[Bai Lan]

You have returned to not making any sense.

To what specific assertion are you referring, and why is the assertion's asynchronous, atheistic, amoral, atypical, asymmetrical and apolitical nature of any relevance?

your denial of words is tiresome and retarded.

you have rendered yourself inert with your impotent word game approach.

kindly fuck off.

 

[Bai Lan]

The contraction "I'm" both requires an apostraphe and should be followed by a comma.

I can read, and I see that you are a raving lunatic.

minor punctuation errors is not lunacy.

you can't deal with big arguments so you focus on minutia.

that shows your retardation.

 

[Into the Night]

I'm going to save both of us time and tell you how this is going to go down.....

I already know:

* You will ignore the etymology of the word.
* You will insist that your redefinition is the authoritative reference for the whole world to use.
* You will claim 'facts' without understanding what a 'fact' is, attempting to treat it like some Holy Universal Truth or a proof.
* You will insist that dictionaries define words and not people.
* You will resort to insults and assumptions you 'won'.
* You will try to deny the fallacies you commit and deny logic.

You, in your continuing mission to troll while looking as idiotic as possible, pretend a word has a different mean than what is well established.

I post multiple links showing the well established definition of the word you are pretending to redefine.

You, in your continuing mission to look as idiotic as possible, come back with something really dumb like 'Dictionaries don't define words'.

I point out how idiotic you are and go on my way.

There... saved us both some time. Sorry I'm not participating in your daily jerk off session. You'll have to get someone else to help you.

QED

 

[Into the Night]

it does not exist.

You cannot clear your paradox by denying it, NoName.

one can think God exists and not care.

You are still locked in this paradox.

 

[Into the Night]

you obsession with climate change is boring

I'm not obsessed with 'climate change', Hugo. YOU are. Climate cannot change.

 

[Into the Night]

Clearly the context of agnosticism is religion. You are lost.

Agnosticism is not related to religion at all, Hugo.

 

[Bai Lan]

I already know:

* You will ignore the etymology of the word.
* You will insist that your redefinition is the authoritative reference for the whole world to use.
* You will claim 'facts' without understanding what a 'fact' is, attempting to treat it like some Holy Universal Truth or a proof.
* You will insist that dictionaries define words and not people.
* You will resort to insults and assumptions you 'won'.
* You will try to deny the fallacies you commit and deny logic.



QED

the funny thing is that you think denying what words mean is a way to win all arguments.

you're very retarded.

 

[Into the Night]

An atheist can care about such matters. I care enough to engage in conversations. It all comes down to whether or not I am ultimately convinced of a particular theism ... and in my case, I have not yet been convinced of any, but I always learn something from each such discussion. In fact, Christians have been singularly helpful in helping me refine my Marxism radar, as an example. Discussions on Biblical teachings usually give me new and interesting contemporary applications for parables and stories, as another example.

Theistic discussions always have a draw because, by their very nature, they reside at the far end of the "importance" spectrum which always hold humanity's curiosity, so it really isn't accurate to say that atheists don't care about such things; they simply have not yet been convinced ... but that does not say anything about what tomorrow will bring.

It's the Marxists and other secular religionists' ... who disingenuously claim to be "atheists" ... who simply refuse to be convinced of any competing theology. Atheists have no existing theism to be threatened, and thus have no motivation to refuse to consider new information. Warmizombies, however, need to lash out in irrational defiance to protect their Climate Change theism.

Also, another key point is that atheists do not hold the belief that there are no deities. As such, you won't find any actual atheists claiming that you should believe that there are no deities. Atheists don't have any theism to impose onto anyone else. If someone is telling you that you should believe that the earth's average equilibrium temperature is somehow increasing, he's not an atheist.


It really is this simple. How do rational adults get this wrong?

While you might enjoy theistic discussions, Marxist discussions, etc. You have shown that you really don't care whether a god or gods exist or not. For you, it's just as good either way, which is why you are an atheist.

 

[WinterBorn]

Agnostics are simply atheists without being so sure.

 

[Into the Night]

you'll have to take it up with Into the Night. You two "definition creators" can believe whatever you want.

You are describing yourself again.. Inversion fallacy. Attempted justification of redefinition fallacies. QED of #269.

 

[Into the Night]

your denial of words is tiresome and retarded.

you have rendered yourself inert with your impotent word game approach.

kindly fuck off.

Random phrase. Go learn English.

 

[Into the Night]

minor punctuation errors is not lunacy.

you can't deal with big arguments so you focus on minutia.

that shows your retardation.

Mantra 1a. Attempt to justify illliteracy.

 

[Into the Night]

the funny thing is that you think denying what words mean is a way to win all arguments.

I don't deny what words means, NoName.

you're very retarded.

Mantra 1d. Lame.

 

[Bai Lan]

I don't deny what words means, NoName.

Mantra 1d. Lame.

of course you minrimjil flatooginator.