Justice Dept doesn't bring cases they cant win

T. A. Gardner said:
No, you take a plea often times to avoid bankruptcy. Many people rely on a public pretender... err, defender, who gets paid by the case so they want it over asap to get paid. They often don't have their client's best interests in mind. They will often quit a case where the defendant insists on a trial rather than a plea deal because they know they'll lose money on it.

Civil suits are a bit different. Those are ALL about costs. FOX took the deal because it was cheaper than the alternatives. It's that simple.

Trump won't deal. He has a history of grinding his opponents down. I would expect him to go to the mat, and make things as expensive as he can for the prosecution. The prosecution will be under pressure from their management and budget people to make a crappy deal and get out of the case.
The feds are even less likely to want a trial than state prosecutors. One trial that is grossly expensive, and one loss and your career as a US attorney is over and done. The prosecution won't want that in the least. I'd say prosecutors in the Trump case were pressured from politics above to even push the case. It's really a loser for them if they don't succeed.
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What do you mean No? That is exactly why most people take pleas. Cops tell them if they take it to a jury, the penalties will be much worse. Trump will be discussing pleas. He has already had lawyers talking to prosecutors begging for a deal.
 
Nordberg said:
What do you mean No? That is exactly why most people take pleas. Cops tell them if they take it to a jury, the penalties will be much worse. Trump will be discussing pleas. He has already had lawyers talking to prosecutors begging for a deal.
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The cops / prosecutors lie their asses off because they don't want a trial. Trials are expensive and time consuming. There is no certainty in the outcome. Using the threats of cost and longer sentences usually persuades defendants to accept a plea bargain. However, when a defendant refuses, they often walk away with no guilty verdict whatsoever.
 
Nordberg said:
What do you mean No? That is exactly why most people take pleas. Cops tell them if they take it to a jury, the penalties will be much worse. Trump will be discussing pleas. He has already had lawyers talking to prosecutors begging for a deal.
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Do you have any evidence of that or are you just talking out of your ass as usual.
 
Nordberg said:
Trump is a crappy criminal. He does things in public and defies you to stop him. So the FBI took the dare. Trump will have to plea for mercy or tell his followers to throw the country over and crown him king of America. Some will do it.
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If it's true trumps a crappy criminal then that means you're an incompetent moron. Seven plus years and not one conviction. Idiots
 
floridafan said:
Everyone who indicts the Donald is a thug, not just the US Justice Dept, but the states of NY and GA as well. Its very special to have not done anything wrong in his lifetime, a true saint he is.
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They are treasonous democrats using third world tactics.

How does the democrat Reich differ from Idi Amin regime? He threw his political opponents in prison too. He also had mass incarceration of dissenters who dared protest against him.

democrats are not a political party - you're a crime against humanity.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
No, you take a plea often times to avoid bankruptcy. Many people rely on a public pretender... err, defender, who gets paid by the case so they want it over asap to get paid. They often don't have their client's best interests in mind. They will often quit a case where the defendant insists on a trial rather than a plea deal because they know they'll lose money on it.

Civil suits are a bit different. Those are ALL about costs. FOX took the deal because it was cheaper than the alternatives. It's that simple.

Trump won't deal. He has a history of grinding his opponents down. I would expect him to go to the mat, and make things as expensive as he can for the prosecution. The prosecution will be under pressure from their management and budget people to make a crappy deal and get out of the case.
The feds are even less likely to want a trial than state prosecutors. One trial that is grossly expensive, and one loss and your career as a US attorney is over and done. The prosecution won't want that in the least. I'd say prosecutors in the Trump case were pressured from politics above to even push the case. It's really a loser for them if they don't succeed.
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Good analysis. Just remember that the prosecution is Xi's Biden Regime, which can spend every dime you, I, and every American has in their witch trials against Trump.
 
Nordberg said:
Trump is a crappy criminal.
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Trump isn't a criminal, Nordbutt.
Nordberg said:
He does things in public and defies you to stop him.
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So do I, Nordbutt. Not a crime.
Nordberg said:
So the FBI took the dare.
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The FBI broke the law, Nordbutt. They still do.
Nordberg said:
Trump will have to plea for mercy
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A Not Guilty plea is not a plea for mercy, Nordbutt.
Nordberg said:
or tell his followers to throw the country over and crown him king of America.
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No crown, Nordbutt. No king.
 
Nordberg said:
You take a plea when you are offered a deal that has lower penalties than the jury might assign. That is why Fox settled the billion and half suit. They were sure the jury would grant more money. They escaped with 800 million.
Trump will take a deal to stay out of jail. He knows what crimes he has committed. But he may not get a deal that does that. The feds have a lock on the cases. Trump crimed in public and in front of witnesses. The Feds would be happy to have Trump face a jury. The Feds would present eyewitnesses , people involved who turned on Trump, tapes and phone calls and videos of Trump in the act and tons of evidence.
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FOX is owned by DEMOCRATS, Nordbutt.
Illiteracy: Attempt to past form of a verb upon a noun.
Logic errors: Bulverism. Assumption of victory fallacy. False equivalence fallacy.
Denial of history.
 
What is fantastic is that the bulk of defenses Trump wants to present in court will require him testify or those defenses cannot be put forth by his lawyer.

All the talk of 'what Trump believed', and that he was 'only following certain lawyers guidance' (Kraken, Rudy and Eastman) and he 'believed them and not the other lawyers' (Barr, Cipollone. etc) can only be presented if Trump takes the stand and establishes that is what he believed.

And since Trump will never take the stand many of the main defenses he will want to use will be denied them.
 
QP! said:
What is fantastic is that the bulk of defenses Trump wants to present in court will require him testify or those defenses cannot be put forth by his lawyer.

All the talk of 'what Trump believed', and that he was 'only following certain lawyers guidance' (Kraken, Rudy and Eastman) and he 'believed them and not the other lawyers' (Barr, Cipollone. etc) can only be presented if Trump takes the stand and establishes that is what he believed.

And since Trump will never take the stand many of the main defenses he will want to use will be denied them.
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Trump is extremely arrogant and thinks he is smarter than anyone else. He may decide he can straighten the judges and cases out.
 
Nordberg said:
Trump is extremely arrogant and thinks he is smarter than anyone else. He may decide he can straighten the judges and cases out.
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it would be like christmas for all of us if Trump got on the stand and testified on his own behalf. They would need to let camera's in for that. No event in television history would get better ratings, so Trump would be happy.


Just imagine Trump making his case to the Court and Jury!


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It will be pure brilliance in action.

So much winning Trump will tire of winning. He needs to do it. He needs to testify!!!
 
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