Know the difference

[domer76]

There are Jews, there are Zionists and there are Israelis. Do some homework and figure out the difference.

Before the Israelis, there were the Zionists. Before the Zionists, there were the Jews.

The Zionists won, thus leading to the Israelis. The Jews finished third.

Then, in that race with the Palestinians thrown in, the Palestinians finished dead last.

 

[BidenPresident]

There are Jews, there are Zionists and there are Israelis. Do some homework and figure out the difference.

Before the Israelis, there were the Zionists. Before the Zionists, there were the Jews.

The Zionists won, thus leading to the Israelis. The Jews finished third.

Then, in that race with the Palestinians thrown in, the Palestinians finished dead last.

And for no good reason the US is propping up Israel.

 

[domer76]

And for no good reason the US is propping up Israel.

Yeah, but the US made that bed long ago. And now they’re having to sleep in it.

 

[BidenPresident]

Yeah, but the US made that bed long ago. And now they’re having to sleep in it.

No reason for US citizens to abide by it.

 

[Cypress]

And for no good reason the US is propping up Israel.

I support democracy, even flawed or emergent democracy, wherever it takes root and persists on the Earth. Especially when we are living in an era where the forces of totalitarianism is ascendant.

Israel has a free press, Israeli citizens whether Jewish, Druze, Muslim, or Christian can vote in legitimate elections, Israeli citizens can openly protest that actions of their government.

That doesn't mean the democracies in Israel, Turkey, Ukraine, India aren't seriously flawed in certain ways.

 

[BidenPresident]

I support democracy, even flawed or emergent democracy, wherever it takes root and persists on the Earth. Especially when we are living in an era where the forces of totalitarianism is ascendant.

Israel has a free press, Israeli citizens whether Jewish, Druze, Muslim, or Christian can vote in legitimate elections, Israeli citizens can openly protest that actions of their government.

That doesn't mean the democracies in Israel, Turkey, Ukraine, India aren't seriously flawed in certain ways.

Israel is not a democracy.

 

[ZenMode]

And for no good reason the US is propping up Israel.

Helping good guys beat bad guys is usually a positive.

 

[BidenPresident]

Helping good guys beat bad guys is usually a positive.

no idea what you are talking about

 

[Cypress]

Israel is not a democracy.

Israeli citizens have the strongest democracy in southwest Asia, which includes a free press, free speech, and the right to vote for all Israeli citizens whether they are Jewish, Muslim, Christian, or Druze.

I believe in an equitable two state solution, but I'm not willing to lie and say Israel is an evil totalitarian state that is an enemy of democracy

 

[domer76]

I support democracy, even flawed or emergent democracy, wherever it takes root and persists on the Earth. Especially when we are living in an era where the forces of totalitarianism is ascendant.

Israel has a free press, Israeli citizens whether Jewish, Druze, Muslim, or Christian can vote in legitimate elections, Israeli citizens can openly protest that actions of their government.

That doesn't mean the democracies in Israel, Turkey, Ukraine, India aren't seriously flawed in certain ways.

Israel, as a “democracy”, is much more than seriously flawed. It is an occupier within its own borders.

 

[BidenPresident]

Israeli citizens have the strongest democracy in southwest Asia, which includes a free press, free speech, and the right to vote for all Israeli citizens whether they are Jewish, Muslim, Christian, or Druze.

I believe in an equitable two state solution, but I'm not willing to lie and say Israel is an evil totalitarian state that is an enemy of democracy

Not a democracy. Israel is an apartheid state.

 

[ZenMode]

And for no good reason the US is propping up Israel.

Helping good guys beat bad guys is usually a positive.

 

[BidenPresident]

Helping good guys beat bad guys is usually a positive.

A penny saved is a penny earned.

 

[Cypress]

Not a democracy. Israel is an apartheid state.

Gaza is not part of Israel.

The United States was an apartheid state from the 1600s to at least the 1970s, if not later.

Israel is a parliamentary democracy with a multiparty system and independent institutions that guarantee political rights and civil liberties for most of the population. Although the judiciary is comparatively active in protecting minority rights, the political leadership and many in society have discriminated against Arab and other ethnic or religious minority populations, resulting in systemic disparities in areas including infrastructure, criminal justice, education, and economic opportunity.

https://freedomhouse.org/country/israel/freedom-world/2024

 

[BidenPresident]

Gaza is not part of Israel.

The United States was an apartheid state from the 1600s to at least the 1970s, if not later.

Look, I do not support Israel's genocide.

 

[ZenMode]

A penny saved is a penny earned.

How much did 9/11 cost the United States?

 

[Cypress]

Look, I do not support Israel's genocide.

Now you're changing the subject

You declared that Israel is not a democracy.

They are universally considered a parliamentary democracy by impartial international NGOs that monitor democracy.

Given the state of the world today, I support even flawed democracies in the face of as ascendant totalitarianism.

 

[BidenPresident]

How much did 9/11 cost the United States?

I do not know.

 

[BidenPresident]

Now you're changing the subject

You declared that Israel is not a democracy.

They are universally considered a parliamentary democracy by impartial international NGOs that monitor democracy.

Given the state of the world today, I support even flawed democracies in the face of as ascendant totalitarianism.

Subject is Israel is an apartheid state out to slaughter Palestinians.

 

[ZenMode]

I do not know.

A whole lot more than we have spent helping Israel. That doesn't mean that we should give money to them endlessly, but we should definitely be willing to help them to a point because, again, they are the good guys.