Yep.
How many were killed in Iraq that had nothing to do at all with the war?
Just collateral damage.
Ohh wait they were only Iraqi so they were somehow subhuman anyway?
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LA police shoot innocent people in ex-cop manhunt
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How many were killed in Iraq that had nothing to do at all with the war?
Just collateral damage.
Ohh wait they were only Iraqi so they were somehow subhuman anyway?
SmarterthanYou
rebel
Yep.
How many were killed in Iraq that had nothing to do at all with the war?
Just collateral damage.
Ohh wait they were only Iraqi so they were somehow subhuman anyway?
comparing military operations in Iraq to law enforcement operations in our own borders makes you a moron. thinking that I'm indifferent to the plight of Iraqis at the hands of our own military makes you a moron. considering innocent american citizens being shot and killed at the hands of our supposed protector of our rights makes you a moron. I guess that means you're a moron.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
calling it collateral damage implies that the cops/government is at war with us.Colateral damage is colateral damage.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
so you, along with zappa, are dismissing the reckless acts of the cops that shot and injured 3 people because of a 'domestic terrorist'?Collateral damage does not only happen in war.
It has been recently used in that context but is not limited to that useage.
But yes that recent manhunt did remind me of anti terrorist activities.
The guy was a domestic terrorist.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
Dismissing no.
Quit being a drama queen.
so your intent today is just to be a disruptive troll as usual, got it.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
The city of Los Angeles will pay $4.2 million to a mother and daughter who were caught in a hail of bullets in February when police mistook their truck for one driven by renegade ex-policeman Christopher Dorner and opened fire, officials said on Tuesday.
The settlement, which allows both sides to avoid a trial, brings the Los Angeles Police Department nearer to closing what had been an embarrassing chapter in its search for Dorner. The department still is reviewing the actions of two officers.
The shooting-related injuries of the two women, who had been delivering newspapers in the Los Angeles suburb of Torrance, occurred in the first days of the manhunt for Dorner.
Emma Hernandez, 71, was shot twice in the back and her daughter, Margie Carranza, 47, suffered hand injuries from flying debris when two officers opened fire on them before dawn on February 7.
Police had been on the lookout for Dorner's gray Nissan Titan truck, and officials have said the officers opened fire after mistaking the blue Toyota Tacoma the women were driving for Dorner's truck.
"In reaching this settlement, we hope Margie and Emma will be able to move on with their lives, the city will be spared millions of dollars in litigation expense and time, and this unfortunate chapter of the Dorner saga will be put to rest," Los Angeles City Attorney Carmen Trutanich said in a statement.
Each woman will receive $2.1 million under the settlement, which must still be ratified by the Los Angeles City Council.
In March, Trutanich reached a separate settlement with the women that gave them $40,000 to replace their truck, which was left with multiple bullet holes.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/24/us-usa-california-cop-idUSBRE93N02S20130424
SmarterthanYou
rebel
http://tbrnews.com/news/redondo_bea...cle_c0c04082-d778-11e2-a86b-0019bb2963f4.html
yeah, tell me they weren't looking to kill Dorner at the first opportunity. And blue book value of his truck? really?
A Redondo Beach surfer shot at by Torrance police officers who mistakenly believed he was fugitive cop Christopher Dorner is poised to file a lawsuit next week alleging the incident destroyed his life and he can no longer work and can barely talk or walk.
David Perdue, 38, has suffered a concussion, vertigo and post traumatic stress since the Feb. 7 shooting that occurred moments after Los Angeles police officers fired at two female newspaper carriers, also mistakenly believing they were Dorner.
"David can barely walk at this point," his attorney, Robert Sheahen, said Friday. "(His wife) said, `I never thought that at age 27, I would have two kids without a father, and I would be a caretaker for a husband who turned into a 70-year-old man."'
Sheahen said mediation efforts with Torrance attorneys to reach a settlement failed Thursday after a nearly four-hour session with a retired judge.
"Torrance is just insulting him," Sheahen said. "They finally, at the end, agreed to give him Blue Book value for the truck."
A Torrance police officer rammed Perdue's Honda Ridgeline truck to stop him and fired three bullets at him in a confrontation on Flagler Lane near Beryl Street about 5:30 in the morning. The bullets missed Perdue, but went through his windshield. Sheahen said Perdue's air bag deployed during the crash, and officers dragged him from the truck at gunpoint.
yeah, tell me they weren't looking to kill Dorner at the first opportunity. And blue book value of his truck? really?
SmarterthanYou
rebel
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Negotiations-Crumble-in-Dorner-Civil-Lawsuit-214783581.html
The city of Torrance denied an excessive force complaint filed by a man who was shot at by that city's police agency in a case of mistaken identity during a frenzied manhunt for an ex-LAPD officer on a deadly rampage.
David Perdue was on his way to the beach for an early-morning surf session on Feb. 7 before work when Torrance police officers fired at his Honda truck without any warning, according to court documents filed in federal court in Los Angeles in June.
"The city of Torrance continues to insult us," said Perdue's attorney Robert Sheahen in a press conference held Monday afternoon.
Torrance police would not comment, citing the ongoing lawsuit.
Police fired at least three bullets at Perdue’s truck before ordering him out and detaining him for an hour that morning. Even though bullets went through his windshield, Perdue was not hit.
He was shot at even after being cleared by other officers after they were satisfied he was not the man they were looking for, court documents said.
Police encountered Perdue while searching for ex-LAPD Officer Christopher Dorner, wanted in a revenge-fueled killing spree from Feb. 3–12 that left four people dead, including two police officers, and wounded three other police officers.
Dorner fatally shot himself while hiding out in a Big Bear cabin.
Perdue, 38, who is white, and under 6-feet tall, was mistaken for Dorner, a black man, who stood 6 foot 2.
On the day Perdue was shot at, officers were in the Torrance neighborhood on protection duty for another officer Dorner threatened in an online manifesto.
The Perdue shooting was the second case of mistaken identity that morning.
The city of Torrance denied an excessive force complaint filed by a man who was shot at by that city's police agency in a case of mistaken identity during a frenzied manhunt for an ex-LAPD officer on a deadly rampage.
David Perdue was on his way to the beach for an early-morning surf session on Feb. 7 before work when Torrance police officers fired at his Honda truck without any warning, according to court documents filed in federal court in Los Angeles in June.
"The city of Torrance continues to insult us," said Perdue's attorney Robert Sheahen in a press conference held Monday afternoon.
Torrance police would not comment, citing the ongoing lawsuit.
Police fired at least three bullets at Perdue’s truck before ordering him out and detaining him for an hour that morning. Even though bullets went through his windshield, Perdue was not hit.
He was shot at even after being cleared by other officers after they were satisfied he was not the man they were looking for, court documents said.
Police encountered Perdue while searching for ex-LAPD Officer Christopher Dorner, wanted in a revenge-fueled killing spree from Feb. 3–12 that left four people dead, including two police officers, and wounded three other police officers.
Dorner fatally shot himself while hiding out in a Big Bear cabin.
Perdue, 38, who is white, and under 6-feet tall, was mistaken for Dorner, a black man, who stood 6 foot 2.
On the day Perdue was shot at, officers were in the Torrance neighborhood on protection duty for another officer Dorner threatened in an online manifesto.
The Perdue shooting was the second case of mistaken identity that morning.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...ng-to-execute-a-man-on-his-way-to-go-surfing/
This week, the office of Los Angeles County District Attorney Jackie Lacey announced that it won’t be filing charges against Brian McGee, the Torrance officer who rammed Perdue’s truck, then opened fire on him. The DA found that Perdue made a “reasonable mistake,” even though Perdue is white and Dorner was black, and Perdue’s truck wasn’t the same color as that reported to have been driven by Dorner.
Part of the reason why McGee’s actions were deemed reasonable is that just blocks away, seven LAPD cops had just fired 100 bullets at a truck driven by Margie Carranza and her mother, Emma Hernandez, thinking they were Dorner. The two women were delivering newspapers. McGee apparently believed Perdue was Dorner, fleeing from that shooting. The seven LAPD cops shot up not only the women’s truck, they also sent bullets flying all over the neighborhood, hitting “cars, trees, roofs and garage doors.” They too have been cleared of any wrongdoing. LAPD Chief Charlie Beck described that incident as “a tragic misinterpretation” by police officers dealing with “incredible tension.”
This week, the office of Los Angeles County District Attorney Jackie Lacey announced that it won’t be filing charges against Brian McGee, the Torrance officer who rammed Perdue’s truck, then opened fire on him. The DA found that Perdue made a “reasonable mistake,” even though Perdue is white and Dorner was black, and Perdue’s truck wasn’t the same color as that reported to have been driven by Dorner.
Part of the reason why McGee’s actions were deemed reasonable is that just blocks away, seven LAPD cops had just fired 100 bullets at a truck driven by Margie Carranza and her mother, Emma Hernandez, thinking they were Dorner. The two women were delivering newspapers. McGee apparently believed Perdue was Dorner, fleeing from that shooting. The seven LAPD cops shot up not only the women’s truck, they also sent bullets flying all over the neighborhood, hitting “cars, trees, roofs and garage doors.” They too have been cleared of any wrongdoing. LAPD Chief Charlie Beck described that incident as “a tragic misinterpretation” by police officers dealing with “incredible tension.”
SmarterthanYou
rebel
http://rt.com/usa/lapd-cops-dorner-..._medium=aplication_chrome&utm_campaign=chrome
that says it all right there. cops are more intent on protecting their own and will be allowed to kill innocents in the practice of doing so. it's just collateral damage. think they were held accountable Zappa?
The eight Southern California police officers who mistakenly fired more than 100 shots at a car being driven by two women during a manhunt for suspected cop-killer Christopher Dorner last year will return to the field, officials now say.
Although both the chief of the Los Angeles Police Department and a civilian oversight board agree that eight LAPD officers violated official policy during the one-sided shootout in Torrance, CA last February 7, an internal memorandum obtained by members of the media on Wednesday reveal that those cops will continue to work the streets of Southern California.
"I have confidence in their abilities as LAPD officers to continue to do their jobs in the same capacity they had been assigned," Police Chief Charlie Beck said in a department message to officers on Wednesday, according to the Associated Press. "In the end, we as an organization can learn from this incident and from the individuals involved."
"I appreciate that the officers involved in the incident took action with intent of protecting the 'target' and his family; however, the chain of events which unfolded and the extent to which the use of lethal force occurred did not meet my expectations, consequently there were innocent victims wounded," Beck said.
that says it all right there. cops are more intent on protecting their own and will be allowed to kill innocents in the practice of doing so. it's just collateral damage. think they were held accountable Zappa?
SmarterthanYou
rebel
can you stick to the topic at hand? just wondering
SmarterthanYou
rebel
Prosecutors Wednesday declined to file charges against eight Los Angeles Police Department officers involved in a 2013 shooting in Torrance that left two newspaper delivery women injured in the midst of a manhunt for former Officer Christopher Dorner.
The Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Office cited “insufficient admissible evidence” to prove the officers weren’t acting in self-defense or in defense of others.
“The actions of the officers in this case nearly caused the death of two innocent victims,” according to report prepared by the District Attorney’s Office Justice System Integrity Division. “The fact that those actions were based on a significant mistaken fact does little to mollify the emotional response to such a near-tragedy. Nonetheless, this office is guided by the legal principles discussed in this memorandum. The findings in this memorandum are not an endorsement of the officers’ conduct nor of the tactical decisions made by LAPD in this situation.”
The LAPD officers — a sergeant with 22 years experience, and seven officers — fired more than 100 rounds at a blue Toyota Tacoma pickup, driven by 47-year-old Maggie Carranza, and her 71-year-old mother, Emma Hernandez, early on the morning of Feb. 7, 2013.
Hernandez suffered wounds to her back, and Carranza cuts from shattered glass. The Los Angeles City Council approved a $4.2 million settlement with the women in summer 2013.
The officers mistook the women’s pickup truck for one that was being driven by Dorner, a fugitive ex-officer who had already killed two people and then posted an online manifesto vowing to kill LAPD officers and their families.
In 2014, the city Police Commission found that the officers had violated LAPD policy governing the use of deadly force in the shooting of the women in Torrance. Chief Charlie Beck, who has the final decision on disciplinary actions against officers, said he was disappointed in the officers’ actions, but he allowed all of the officers to return to active duty.
Involved in the shooting were Sgt. John Valdez and Officers Jess Faber, Marlon Franco, Sergio Gramajo, John Hart, Geoff Lear, Deshon Parker and Jonathan Roman.
The District Attorney’s Office report concludes that “The available admissible evidence is insufficient to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that (the officers) … did not act in self-defense and in the defense of others or that they were not justified in acting to stop a person who the officers believed to be a fleeing felon. Therefore we are closing our file and will take no further action in this matter.”
so much for that whole 'higher standard' thing......
http://mynewsla.com/crime/2016/01/2...ting-of-delivery-women-during-dorner-manhunt/