Leftists are not just Marxists, Communists, Socialists, They're also 'FASCISTS'

Flash said:
Reading comparative economics shows most economists do not believe fascism requires any particular economic system as it varies by national differences.
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Okay, I have never read any economist talking about fascism.
 
Hume said:
Okay, I have never read any economist talking about fascism.
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Comparative economic texts discuss fascism because some people describe it in economic terms. It is like communism in that comparing all the current and former communist nations found little in common among them other than the Communist party governed and they called themselves communist. None of them met the theories of Marx/Engels (no state withered away) and their economic systems varied.
 
martin said:
Webster's Dictionary:

"Fascism : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition."

Rather than a five minute video of some nobody with his own political agenda, get a respected source if it matters to you how fascist is classified between Right and Left. If a good history is too much work, look it up in an encyclopedia like the online Britannica.
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And that defines a politically Leftist variant of government.
 
Obvious years ago with the fascism of Antifa.....as per usual with these abusers what is in the box is the exact opposite of what the label on the box claims it is....Anti Truth.
 
martin said:
I suppose it may if you're confused. The weight by far in the educated world is that fascism is on the Right.
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The academics who say that are idiots. They cannot empirically prove that to be the case.

Here, let me do it right now:

What makes a government fascist in terms of three things:

Degree of government control over society (eg, is a fascist government a dictatorship, democracy, anarchy etc.?)

How is the economy run? Is it government controlled or a free and open market with little regulation?

Is the individual or the state of paramount importance in a fascist society?

Of course, we know that fascist governments are:

Dictatorships and authoritarian.

The economy is state run in large part, usually socialized or a statist capitalist one where the government decides what gets produced and by whom.

The state is everything and the individual is nothing in a fascist state.

Those are all common traits of Leftist to radical Leftist states. A state on the far Right would have a democracy or other government where society chooses its leaders and has a great degree of say and control over them. That far Right government would have unrestricted capitalism with the government having little or no control over the economy. Lastly, individual rights and the individual would be paramount in a Right wing society, not the government or society as a whole.

That is empirical, measurable, and repeatable. The usual academic definitions of a fascist state are nonsense and unprovable opinion, nothing more.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
The academics who say that are idiots. They cannot empirically prove that to be the case.

Here, let me do it right now:

What makes a government fascist in terms of three things:

Degree of government control over society (eg, is a fascist government a dictatorship, democracy, anarchy etc.?)

How is the economy run? Is it government controlled or a free and open market with little regulation?

Is the individual or the state of paramount importance in a fascist society?

Of course, we know that fascist governments are:

Dictatorships and authoritarian.

The economy is state run in large part, usually socialized or a statist capitalist one where the government decides what gets produced and by whom.

The state is everything and the individual is nothing in a fascist state.

Those are all common traits of Leftist to radical Leftist states. A state on the far Right would have a democracy or other government where society chooses its leaders and has a great degree of say and control over them. That far Right government would have unrestricted capitalism with the government having little or no control over the economy. Lastly, individual rights and the individual would be paramount in a Right wing society, not the government or society as a whole.

That is empirical, measurable, and repeatable. The usual academic definitions of a fascist state are nonsense and unprovable opinion, nothing more.
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You "empirically proved" you're a halfwit on the subject.

America began as a liberal experiment, the first democratic republic since Rome, making it "Leftist" under that term born a handful of years later in the French Revolution our American one inspired. The experiment succeeded immensely. It continues in the face of efforts to kill it by foolish Right wingers.
 
martin said:
You "empirically proved" you're a halfwit on the subject.

America began as a liberal experiment, the first democratic republic since Rome, making it "Leftist" under that term born a handful of years later in the French Revolution our American one inspired. The experiment succeeded immensely. It continues in the face of efforts to kill it by foolish Right wingers.
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Nothing but your subjective opinion. Nothing measurable or empirical in that.
 
martin said:
America began as a liberal experiment, the first democratic republic since Rome, making it "Leftist" under that term born a handful of years later in the French Revolution our American one inspired. The experiment succeeded immensely. It continues in the face of efforts to kill it by foolish Right wingers.
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Our present chaotic situation makes me less convinced about the American experiment having succeeded.
More modern democracies have clearly surpassed us in many ways,
and that democracy which we do have is presently in great peril.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Nothing but your subjective opinion. Nothing measurable or empirical in that.
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It's factually historical, nothing subjective about it.

The American Revolution broke a long existing mold of monarchical governments. Its intellectual foundation followed by that of The Constitution were the writings of Enlightenment thinkers (Locke, Hume, Rousseau and others) who did, in fact, create in the founding documents the first
democratic republic in the West since the ancient world. The terms "Left" and "Right" are from The National Assembly of the French Revolution where the radicals sat on the left side of the chamber.
 
martin said:
It's factually historical, nothing subjective about it.

The American Revolution broke a long existing mold of monarchical governments. Its intellectual foundation followed by that of The Constitution were the writings of Enlightenment thinkers (Locke, Hume, Rousseau and others) who did, in fact, create in the founding documents the first
democratic republic in the West since the ancient world. The terms "Left" and "Right" are from The National Assembly of the French Revolution where the radicals sat on the left side of the chamber.
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Keep in mind that Gardner thinks Jan. 6 was just a bunch of rowdy visitors at the Capitol.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Our present chaotic situation makes me less convinced about the American experiment having succeeded.
More modern democracies have clearly surpassed us in many ways,
and that democracy which we do have is presently in great peril.
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The Constitution is made to withstand tests like the one looming before us. We may see soon enough if it does.
 
Libhater said:
I get a huge kick out of some the lefties here calling Trump a Fascist, but this 5 minute video should go a
long way in debunking that absurd notion that the Capitalist Trump is in any way a Fascist, and in fact show
without a doubt that it's the lefties who are the true fascists.

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They are also brain dead muppets.
 
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