What do you think that Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness is? Do you think it is relying on the government to provide healthcare? Did you ever ask why healthcare is so expensive? Why do so many people think that the government owes them healthcare?
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What do you think that Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness is? Do you think it is relying on the government to provide healthcare? Did you ever ask why healthcare is so expensive? Why do so many people think that the government owes them healthcare?
I have yet to see a plan where the government "provides healthcare."
Wanna try again on that?
I never said that the government provided healthcare, but what do you think Universal Healthcare is? That is what Hillary and Obama want to force on the American public.
"Life, Libery & the Pursuit of Happiness."
If you can show me how the free market has worked itself out with regard to
healthcare, I'm all ears. As it is, the problems are just getting worse & more pronounced.
People can't have that when their coverage is denied and they have to either find tens of thousands of dollars, or die.
If you can show me how the free market has worked itself out with regard to healthcare, I'm all ears. As it is, the problems are just getting worse & more pronounced.
If you can show me how the free market has worked itself out with regard to
healthcare, I'm all ears. As it is, the problems are just getting worse & more pronounced.
People can't have that when their coverage is denied and they have to either find tens of thousands of dollars, or die.
If you can show me how the free market has worked itself out with regard to healthcare, I'm all ears. As it is, the problems are just getting worse & more pronounced.
According to what you said, people cannot have "Life, Libery & the Pursuit of Happiness" if their coverage is denied and they have to find tens of thousands of dollars or die. Normally, the medical procedure is completed then a bill is sent. I have not seen people shoved out of hospitals because of the inability to pay. In fact, I believe that is against the law.
The problem seems to be that health insurance is so high. Why is that? Lawyers will sue a doctor at the drop of a hat. Do you think that might have something to do with the high cost of medical care?
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No one in America is taxed at a rate of 50%, much less 80%. The Keynesian curve (that Laffer stole) breaks off far before 50%. So your argument is pretty much null.
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And of course, here makes the appearance of the classic right wing lie that the government is 1000% inefficient or something, a number that they pulled straight out of their nether regions.
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Why do so many people think the government doesn't owe them healthcare?
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They owe my husband, but he won't collect!
Under President Carter, the top tax rate was 70%. Reagan brought it down. Bill Clinton raised it during his first year. President Bush dropped it. Obama will certainly increase the rate as high as he can.
Show me a document where the government is responsible for everyone's healthcare.
Fine, give me an example of the efficiency of the government's ability to spend. Show me a bill that did not cost much more than 100% of what was predicted when the bill was passed by Congress.
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There is no document, but we have to change with the times, to not change is stasis, and we know what happens then!
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President Obama will not tax you or anyone you know. To suggest otherwise is racist.
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We had schools before we had our current education system.
Once you start the social programs where do you stop ?
Let the sick poor children or the elderly be denied health care ?
Food for the poor ? Housing ?
tell me where does it stop ?
It is hard to believe that you are actually opposed to public education as is suggested in the tone of this post. In fact, I think this is nothing more than a troll. But I will show you the courtesy of offering you an answer.
What is the purpose of government? Well, the purpose of government is to provide for the individual what the individual cannot provide for themselves. It is not to provide everything that everyone wants.
The public education system was established so as to set a minimum standard of education for children to equip them to live as productive members of society when they are adults.
Providing a good or even an adequate education for children is something that is beyond the abilities of most parents.
You are absolutely right. Once you start providing social programs, where do you stop? And here is the answer to that question. You stop where the individual can provide the necessary service on their own.
No one gets turned away when entering a hospital. Perhaps you have heard of Medicare. It is for the elderly and children in certain cases.
Food for the poor... Are you kidding. Have you ever hear of food stamps? Ever hear of Public housing. There are all kinds of programs that are temporary that are in place for just this problem. Maybe you have not seen how overweight most Americans are... even the poor. And here is something you may not know... We have the "richest" poor people in the world. Most people living below the poverty line have a color TV, a car, and a cellphone, receive food stamps, and are able to go to school free of charge.
You can argue that housing projects are not great and you would be right. But they are not paying for it either, are they. If they want a better neighborhood, perhaps they should do what it takes to make their own way in the world and get off the dole. This would make room for those that really need it. They need to shed the entitlement mentality that is the real scourge that keeps people poor, uneducated, and unable to live on their own without assistance.
It would be a safe bet that most of the people are in the position to be there because of poor decisions on their part. For instance, having babies before marriage and/or without the ability to afford to raise a family, dropping out of a school that is provided for them free of charge - all they have to do is to show up before the bell rings and do some homework.
Where does it stop? It stops at personal responsibility and education. Education as mentioned earlier, is provided for no cost, however, it does require a certain effort on the part of the student. This comes under personal responsibility.
The question should not be where does it stop, but rather why does it continue? It continues with enslavement to entitlements, with the entitlement mentality that says 'we are owed this welfare and these government checks'. It ends with getting rid of the poor work ethic that allows one to settle for government handouts and the lifestyle that accompanies it courtesy of the taxpayers.
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The post-war tax rates fluctuated between 90% and 70%. This held true in the Eisenhower and Nixon administrations, and the highest tax burden of all time was actually during Eisenhower. JFK cut it.
Obama may raise taxes on the rich, possibly to 40% or so. A 5% tax increase. Overall his tax plan is a cut.