Meteorologists responds with data after Joe Biden blames climate change for tornadoes
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AProudLefty
Black Kitty Ain't Happy
Then he might as well be very dumb.
Thank you for posting this. Every morning on my pre-dawn walk, I listen to a local podcaster who starts his show with meteorological data. I find it interesting how the moonbats seem to think that every weather related disaster has occurred in the last ten years. Recorded history proves them to be incorrect. The only difference is the population and where new construction is permitted.
The age old question left unanswered by the malcontents,
AProudLefty
Black Kitty Ain't Happy
Thank you for posting this. Every morning on my pre-dawn walk, I listen to a local podcaster who starts his show with meteorological data. I find it interesting how the moonbats seem to think that every weather related disaster has occurred in the last ten years. Recorded history proves them to be incorrect. The only difference is the population and where new construction is permitted.
The age old question left unanswered by the malcontents,
moon
Satire for Sanity
Masochist. Just another dumbass who denies anthropogenic causation.
Stick to your fifth-hand memes
Haw, haw.............................haw
angry tree huggers digging through the bottom of a volcano in a desperate search for globull warming confirmation.
Italy's Etna volcano erupts spewing huge cloud of ash
https://ph.news.yahoo.com/italys-etna-volcano-erupts-spewing-120000313.html
and elswhere,
Hoosier Daddy
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biden did not lie at all, he never claimed the tornadoes were the result of climate change...can you fucking read?
I only glanced at your post.
And based on your track record - I assumed you were calling someone else a liar.
I was wrong.
My apologies.
But I see you still do not know what the meaning of the word 'liar' is.
Just as someone else cannot know that Biden lied.
You cannot know that he did not.
One might ask you whether you can read definitions?
Because you sure do not seem to learn from them.
Hoosier Daddy
Verified User
when trump said there is windmill cancer, was he lying? or was the statement a lie, since there is obviously no such thing as windmill cancer.
Alex Jones explained it, Biden used his weather weapons. https://www.nydailynews.com/snyde/n...0211214-auqwcupwdva7bkmhaktfkt3reu-story.html he never runs out of conspiracies and his followers buy it.
The tornadoes and off-the-chart weather problems were predicted as a consequence of global warming. That is what Biden was referring to.
The tornadoes and off-the-chart weather problems were predicted as a consequence of global warming. That is what Biden was referring to.
No idea to both.
Though both statements were clearly not true.
'liar
noun One who lies; a person who knowingly utters falsehood; one who deceives by false report or representation.'
https://www.wordnik.com/words/liar
What part of this definition are you not understanding?
Hoosier Daddy
Verified User
parsing. a distinction without a real difference. if someone says there is windmill cancer, they are lying. in the real world.
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Mighty Joe Biden Vs. The Tornadoes
Speaking in Wilmington, Delaware on Saturday, President Joe Biden blamed the recent deadly tornado outbreak in Kentucky on “climate change.”
Biden stated, “The fact is we all know everything is more intense when the climate is warming and obviously it has some impact here.”
Biden’s statement is laughably inept and easily disproved. All one has to do is look past the opinions, pronouncements, and hand waving and concentrate on what science and data actually say about the issues.
First, the top five deadliest tornadoes in America all occurred between 1840 and 1936. The Great Natchez Tornado on May 7, 1840, killed 317 people and was the second-deadliest tornado in U.S. history. The deadliest was the March 18, 1925, Tri-State Tornado, which was also the longest-tracked tornado in U.S. history. The massive F5 tornado traveled 219 mi (352 km) across Missouri, Illinois, and Indiana, killing 695 people.
Second, the last half of the 65-year U.S. tornado record had 40 percent fewer strong-to-violent tornadoes (EF3 rated or greater) than the first half. To claim that climate change is causing severe tornadoes is speculation, and directly opposite data publicly available from the National Weather Service (NWS).
Dr. Roy Spencer, a climatologist at the University of Alabama, Huntsville points out, “To claim that global warming is causing more tornadoes is worse than speculative; it is directly opposite to the clear observational evidence.”
A graph of 50 years of tornado data from the NWS Storm Prediction Center (NWSPC) clearly illustrates the downward trend in violent U.S. tornadoes rated EF3 or greater since 1970.
Source: NOAA Storm Prediction Center
In fact, 2017-2018 set the U.S. record for the longest period in history (306 days) without an EF3 or stronger tornado.
But there is an important distinction that must be made. While there’s an upward trend in all tornadoes — due to increased reporting courtesy of millions of cellphone cameras, storm chasers, and expanding populations — violent tornadoes rated EF3 or greater, like the one in Kentucky, are down significantly.
Third, the number of tornadoes this year has been below average. Moreover, 2018 was a record low year for tornado occurrences and deaths in the United States. Provisional data from NWS indicate the tornadoes that hit Mayfield, Kentucky, and Edwardsville, Illinois, were both rated as EF3s.
Although most tornadoes occur in spring and early summer, violent tornadoes are not unheard of in winter. Data show that on average since 1950 there have been five tornadoes every winter of EF3 and greater strength in the United States.
Fourth, tornado outbreaks can’t happen without cold air. When cold air juxtaposes with warm, moist air on a frontal system, we get strong thunderstorms and violent tornadoes. With a modestly warming world, the difference between equatorial and polar temperatures lessens, which is why we have had a downward trend in violent tornadoes. With a smaller temperature difference between the pole to the equator, there’s less energy differential between polar cold fronts and warmer, moister subtropical air in the United States.
Finally, the claimed global authority on climate change and weather, the United Nations group known as the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), produced a special report on severe weather in 2018 that found climate has little or no influence on tornadoes. “There is low confidence in observed trends in small spatial-scale phenomena such as tornadoes,” said the report.
So, why would President Biden make such claims of a linkage between the tornado outbreak and climate change when science and data say there is no causation? A recently published scientific paper sheds some light on this. The paper, titled “Politics of attributing extreme events and disasters to climate change,” states:
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“While politicians may want to blame crises on climate change, members of the public may prefer to hold government accountable for inadequate investments in flood or drought prevention and precarious living conditions… The desire to persuade the public of the dangers of climate change via attributions of climate events pressures scientists and the media alike to attribute extreme climate events (and associated crises) to climate change.”
.
Unfortunately, the corporate media have massively repeated President Biden’s incorrect claim that “climate change” is to blame for a tragic outbreak of deadly tornadoes. The media simply didn’t do their job of conducting even the simplest investigation, and as a result, Americans are once again grossly misinformed.
https://climatechangedispatch.com/mighty-joe-biden-vs-the-tornadoes/
Speaking in Wilmington, Delaware on Saturday, President Joe Biden blamed the recent deadly tornado outbreak in Kentucky on “climate change.”
Biden stated, “The fact is we all know everything is more intense when the climate is warming and obviously it has some impact here.”
Biden’s statement is laughably inept and easily disproved. All one has to do is look past the opinions, pronouncements, and hand waving and concentrate on what science and data actually say about the issues.
First, the top five deadliest tornadoes in America all occurred between 1840 and 1936. The Great Natchez Tornado on May 7, 1840, killed 317 people and was the second-deadliest tornado in U.S. history. The deadliest was the March 18, 1925, Tri-State Tornado, which was also the longest-tracked tornado in U.S. history. The massive F5 tornado traveled 219 mi (352 km) across Missouri, Illinois, and Indiana, killing 695 people.
Second, the last half of the 65-year U.S. tornado record had 40 percent fewer strong-to-violent tornadoes (EF3 rated or greater) than the first half. To claim that climate change is causing severe tornadoes is speculation, and directly opposite data publicly available from the National Weather Service (NWS).
Dr. Roy Spencer, a climatologist at the University of Alabama, Huntsville points out, “To claim that global warming is causing more tornadoes is worse than speculative; it is directly opposite to the clear observational evidence.”
A graph of 50 years of tornado data from the NWS Storm Prediction Center (NWSPC) clearly illustrates the downward trend in violent U.S. tornadoes rated EF3 or greater since 1970.
Source: NOAA Storm Prediction Center
In fact, 2017-2018 set the U.S. record for the longest period in history (306 days) without an EF3 or stronger tornado.
But there is an important distinction that must be made. While there’s an upward trend in all tornadoes — due to increased reporting courtesy of millions of cellphone cameras, storm chasers, and expanding populations — violent tornadoes rated EF3 or greater, like the one in Kentucky, are down significantly.
Third, the number of tornadoes this year has been below average. Moreover, 2018 was a record low year for tornado occurrences and deaths in the United States. Provisional data from NWS indicate the tornadoes that hit Mayfield, Kentucky, and Edwardsville, Illinois, were both rated as EF3s.
Although most tornadoes occur in spring and early summer, violent tornadoes are not unheard of in winter. Data show that on average since 1950 there have been five tornadoes every winter of EF3 and greater strength in the United States.
Fourth, tornado outbreaks can’t happen without cold air. When cold air juxtaposes with warm, moist air on a frontal system, we get strong thunderstorms and violent tornadoes. With a modestly warming world, the difference between equatorial and polar temperatures lessens, which is why we have had a downward trend in violent tornadoes. With a smaller temperature difference between the pole to the equator, there’s less energy differential between polar cold fronts and warmer, moister subtropical air in the United States.
Finally, the claimed global authority on climate change and weather, the United Nations group known as the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), produced a special report on severe weather in 2018 that found climate has little or no influence on tornadoes. “There is low confidence in observed trends in small spatial-scale phenomena such as tornadoes,” said the report.
So, why would President Biden make such claims of a linkage between the tornado outbreak and climate change when science and data say there is no causation? A recently published scientific paper sheds some light on this. The paper, titled “Politics of attributing extreme events and disasters to climate change,” states:
.
“While politicians may want to blame crises on climate change, members of the public may prefer to hold government accountable for inadequate investments in flood or drought prevention and precarious living conditions… The desire to persuade the public of the dangers of climate change via attributions of climate events pressures scientists and the media alike to attribute extreme climate events (and associated crises) to climate change.”
.
Unfortunately, the corporate media have massively repeated President Biden’s incorrect claim that “climate change” is to blame for a tragic outbreak of deadly tornadoes. The media simply didn’t do their job of conducting even the simplest investigation, and as a result, Americans are once again grossly misinformed.
https://climatechangedispatch.com/mighty-joe-biden-vs-the-tornadoes/
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Dr. Roger Pielke Jr. : ‘What is climate attribution about? Politics first, science second’
Pielke Jr. : "What is climate attribution about? Politics first, science second So let's err on the side of claiming every weather event is linked, connected, fueled by climate."
Consider also that according to data from the U.S. National Weather Service from 2000 to 2020 only four of the strongest category of tornadoes were observed (which are labelled as F/EF5 tornadoes) In comparison, from 1954 to 1974 36 (!) such powerful tornadoes were observed. Our research on tornado damage in the United States over many decades shows a decline that is suggestive of an actual decline in tornado incidence. Based on the IPCC assessment of the literature, along with the underlying data and research, the only scientifically valid answer to the question of whether greenhouse gas emissions and associated climate change are leading to more or more intense tornado outbreaks — a “new normal” — is that neither tornadoes nor the most intense tornadoes have increased since at least the 1950s.
Pielke Jr. : "What is climate attribution about? Politics first, science second So let's err on the side of claiming every weather event is linked, connected, fueled by climate."
Consider also that according to data from the U.S. National Weather Service from 2000 to 2020 only four of the strongest category of tornadoes were observed (which are labelled as F/EF5 tornadoes) In comparison, from 1954 to 1974 36 (!) such powerful tornadoes were observed. Our research on tornado damage in the United States over many decades shows a decline that is suggestive of an actual decline in tornado incidence. Based on the IPCC assessment of the literature, along with the underlying data and research, the only scientifically valid answer to the question of whether greenhouse gas emissions and associated climate change are leading to more or more intense tornado outbreaks — a “new normal” — is that neither tornadoes nor the most intense tornadoes have increased since at least the 1950s.
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Holy shit!!!
3 times now I have posted the definition.
And you STILL do not get it.
Wow!
Your ineptitude is beginning to approach 'legendary' status on this.
signalmankenneth
Verified User
Kroger adds monthly surcharge for unvaccinated workers, cuts their COVID-19 sick leav
Good for them, I want to see more companies do this, hit them in the pocketbook?!!
In a bid to push more of its workers to get vaccinated against COVID-19, Kroger will eliminate paid pandemic-related leave and charge $50 per month to employees that haven't gotten shots.
Kroger stopped short of mandating COVID-19 vaccinations for workers, but said it is "modifying policies to encourage safe behaviors including vaccination." Company officials added the grocer will also continue to offer a one-time $100 bonus to workers that get fully vaccinated.
The $50 surcharge goes into effect Jan. 1 and applies to salaried associates enrolled in a company health plan. The extra expense would cost an employee $600 per year.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/mone...charge-covid-unvaccinated-workers/8905191002/
Good for them, I want to see more companies do this, hit them in the pocketbook?!!
In a bid to push more of its workers to get vaccinated against COVID-19, Kroger will eliminate paid pandemic-related leave and charge $50 per month to employees that haven't gotten shots.
Kroger stopped short of mandating COVID-19 vaccinations for workers, but said it is "modifying policies to encourage safe behaviors including vaccination." Company officials added the grocer will also continue to offer a one-time $100 bonus to workers that get fully vaccinated.
The $50 surcharge goes into effect Jan. 1 and applies to salaried associates enrolled in a company health plan. The extra expense would cost an employee $600 per year.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/mone...charge-covid-unvaccinated-workers/8905191002/
You can see the disastrous weather as showing what climate change is bringing us.https://www.epa.gov/climate-indicators/weather-climate Note, real scientists point to the data and say that is likely reflective of climate change. Those who have a slant will say it was not climate change for sure. That is not how scientists work. The worsening storms were predicted and they are showing up.