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Naomi Klein


For the self-conscious, warm blooded, and sentient human, Liberalism of course known to be the antithesis of communism, collectivism, or a host of other intentionally misused code words.

There’s nothing wrong with making regulations smarter, having less bureaucratic red tape, having a cleaner cost-efficient and open government, and having an environment where entrepreneurship and fair competition for consumers is encouraged.

The problem with the privatization and “less regulations” crowd is when the bleating sounds you hear, happen to come from the disaster capitalism fringe of the rightwing – the Reaganites, the Milton Friedmanites, the Tom Delays. It’s all code talk for some mythical glorious days of capitalism prior to Teddy Roosevelt’s Square Deal, and its all code talk to remove barriers to the private corporate acquisition of public assets, public resources, and a nation’s public treasury.

Which is where Naomi Klein comes in.

Disaster Capitalism: State of Extortion Lookout
By Naomi Klein

Once oil passed $140 a barrel, even the most rabidly right-wing media hosts had to prove their populist cred by devoting a portion of every show to bashing Big Oil. Some have gone so far as to invite me on for a friendly chat about an insidious new phenomenon: "disaster capitalism." It usually goes well--until it doesn't.

For instance, "independent conservative" radio host Jerry Doyle and I were having a perfectly amiable conversation about sleazy insurance companies and inept politicians when this happened: "I think I have a quick way to bring the prices down," Doyle announced. "We've invested $650 billion to liberate a nation of 25 million people. Shouldn't we just demand that they give us oil? There should be tankers after tankers backed up like a traffic jam getting into the Lincoln Tunnel, the Stinkin' Lincoln, at rush hour with thank-you notes from the Iraqi government.... Why don't we just take the oil? We've invested it liberating a country. I can have the problem solved of gas prices coming down in ten days, not ten years."

There were a couple of problems with Doyle's plan, of course. The first was that he was describing the biggest stickup in world history. The second, that he was too late: "We" are already heisting Iraq's oil, or at least are on the cusp of doing so.

It's been ten months since the publication of my book The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism, in which I argue that today's preferred method of reshaping the world in the interest of multinational corporations is to systematically exploit the state of fear and disorientation that accompanies moments of great shock and crisis. With the globe being rocked by multiple shocks, this seems like a good time to see how and where the strategy is being applied.

And the disaster capitalists have been busy--from private firefighters already on the scene in Northern California's wildfires, to land grabs in cyclone-hit Burma, to the housing bill making its way through Congress. The bill contains little in the way of affordable housing, shifts the burden of mortgage default to taxpayers and makes sure that the banks that made bad loans get some payouts. No wonder it is known in the hallways of Congress as "The Credit Suisse Plan," after one of the banks that generously proposed it.

Iraq Disaster: We Broke It, We (Just) Bought It

But these cases of disaster capitalism are amateurish compared with what is unfolding at Iraq's oil ministry. It started with no-bid service contracts announced for ExxonMobil, Chevron, Shell, BP and Total (they have yet to be signed but are still on course). Paying multinationals for their technical expertise is not unusual. What is odd is that such contracts almost invariably go to oil service companies--not to the oil majors, whose work is exploring, producing and owning carbon wealth. As London-based oil expert Greg Muttitt points out, the contracts make sense only in the context of reports that the oil majors have insisted on the right of first refusal on subsequent contracts handed out to manage and produce Iraq's oil fields. In other words, other companies will be free to bid on those future contracts, but these companies will win.

One week after the no-bid service deals were announced, the world caught its first glimpse of the real prize. After years of back-room arm-twisting, Iraq is officially flinging open six of its major oil fields, accounting for around half of its known reserves, to foreign investors. According to Iraq's oil minister, the long-term contracts will be signed within a year. While ostensibly under control of the Iraq National Oil Company, foreign firms will keep 75 percent of the value of the contracts, leaving just 25 percent for their Iraqi partners.

That kind of ratio is unheard of in oil-rich Arab and Persian states, where achieving majority national control over oil was the defining victory of anticolonial struggles. According to Muttitt, the assumption until now was that foreign multinationals would be brought in to develop brand-new fields in Iraq--not to take over ones that are already in production and therefore require minimal technical support. "The policy was always to allocate these fields to the Iraq National Oil Company," he told me. This is a total reversal of that policy, giving INOC a mere 25 percent instead of the planned 100 percent.

So what makes such lousy deals possible in Iraq, which has already suffered so much? Ironically, it is Iraq's suffering--its never-ending crisis--that is the rationale for an arrangement that threatens to drain its treasury of its main source of revenue. The logic goes like this: Iraq's oil industry needs foreign expertise because years of punishing sanctions starved it of new technology and the invasion and continuing violence degraded it further. And Iraq urgently needs to start producing more oil. Why? Again because of the war. The country is shattered, and the billions handed out in no-bid contracts to Western firms have failed to rebuild the country. And that's where the new no-bid contracts come in: they will raise more money, but Iraq has become such a treacherous place that the oil majors must be induced to take the risk of investing. Thus the invasion of Iraq neatly creates the argument for its subsequent pillage.


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http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080721/lookout
 
Oh, I always tell my bf that if I ever left him, it would be for Naomi Klein. I totally love her. A genius.

Brilliant! I can totally relate. She's a face and a mind that would sail a thousand ships. She's mine Darla! I'm already stalking her. We were meant to be together, but she just doesn't know it yet. :cof1:



j/k
 
Let me get this straight oil got to high because of not enough regulation. That's 100% proof Cypress is a libral arts grad. Thanks that was hillarious.
 
Let me get this straight oil got to high because of not enough regulation. That's 100% proof Cypress is a libral arts grad. Thanks that was hillarious.


Have another beer, topper.

That's not what the article said at all.
 
Milton Friedman pwns Naomi Klein in a debate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2kTy7glZ9s

Markets bring freedom with them? Tell that to China.

The economic system that turns people into slaves is more efficient than the one that let's them be free. The problem with completely free markets, is that it's just a huge race to the bottom. If one guy gets his peons to work 12 hours a day, the other guy has to do it to keep up. And it gets worse and worse until employers feel their employees will die from it.

And the only problem with free trade is that it encourages governments to drop these kinds of worker protections. That's why we don't need completely free trade with nations that have few labor protections. Even if we DO net gain in money it will force us down a huge hole in the future.
 
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watergerber do you read anything besides leftist text books.
theres a whole new yuppy class in China along with hundreds of thousands of millioniares.
 
I love that Friedman video, talk about str8 ownage....

Also, Friedman predicted China will become free politically, it won't happen overnight, their economy still isn't that free and it's not like you open markets and you have instant political freedom. He has predicted many future Tienamin {sp?} squares. Also, Toppy is right, just think how much better they are and how many more choices individuals have in just the short time China has opened their markets.
 
Freedom Is Slavery

http://www.clearwisdom.net/emh/129/

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1635144,00.html

Friedmaniacs do not believe in society or democracy. A small percentage of the population benefits while the vast majority is held in check thru fear and servitude. Your feudalistic views are nothing new.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain
www.glendale.edu/chaparral/apr05/blair.htm

People like you make me wish I could still work as a strikebreaker.
 
There will be a lot of work for you in China in the future.

LOl.

And hey, maybe here. You never know, things sometimes come full circle. Maybe Epic’s offspring will end up working in Sinclair’s Jungle. A few years in a sweatshop should wipe the smirk off these faces.
 
LOl.

And hey, maybe here. You never know, things sometimes come full circle. Maybe Epic’s offspring will end up working in Sinclair’s Jungle. A few years in a sweatshop should wipe the smirk off these faces.

He should teach his kids to say, 'you want fries with that?' ... in Chinese.
 
I love that Friedman video, talk about str8 ownage....

Also, Friedman predicted China will become free politically, it won't happen overnight, their economy still isn't that free and it's not like you open markets and you have instant political freedom. He has predicted many future Tienamin {sp?} squares. Also, Toppy is right, just think how much better they are and how many more choices individuals have in just the short time China has opened their markets.

Yeah, classic ownage! Some Libertarian took some pre-selected and edited clips of the brilliant Naomi Klein, and then juxtaposed them against some grainy pre-selected clips of some old, bald white guy.

In what world, is that a real debate?? I'm sure I could make a video, with selective editing and clipping, to make that old white guy look like a doofus!
 
Actually I saw an entire debate between them, hosted by Amy Goodman, and Klein rocked. I didn’t even look at this tape because I was able to just watch the debate, at the time it aired. They're just being silly.
 
Actually I saw an entire debate between them, hosted by Amy Goodman, and Klein rocked. I didn’t even look at this tape because I was able to just watch the debate, at the time it aired. They're just being silly.

Well, to be fair I only watched a little bit of Epi's video. That wasn't a debate. It looked like some 22 year old Libertarian selectively stitched together some edited video clips in an attempted homage to his old, bald hero.

Thanks for the heads up, I'm going to look for the Amy Goodman debate. I've never seen Naomi Klein get owned by anyone.
 
Well, to be fair I only watched a little bit of Epi's video. That wasn't a debate. It looked like some 22 year old Libertarian selectively stitched together some edited video clips in an attempted homage to his old, bald hero.

Thanks for the heads up, I'm going to look for the Amy Goodman debate. I've never seen Naomi Klein get owned by anyone.

I posted the wrong one. Darla's talking about the one I meant to post I just can't find it now.
 
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