Obama finds 'consensus' in Iraq for U.S. troop withdrawal

Superfreak said:
LMAO... so you will ignore the fact that the bull market began in 1982, because you want to limit the boom discussion to the 1990's? LMAO....
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You started the discussion of the "90s boom" and credited the Republicans, who fought Clinton's economic plan tooth and nail, but ultimately failed before they got power. They said it would bring the economy to its knees. And you know something? They were dead wrong.
 
ib1yysguy said:
You started the discussion of the "90s boom" and credited the Republicans, who fought Clinton's economic plan tooth and nail, but ultimately failed before they got power. They said it would bring the economy to its knees. And you know something? They were dead wrong.
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The biggest run of the 1990's began in 1995... after Newt and Clinton went toe to toe over the budget. I was yanking your chain on the Reps caused the boom given your ridiculous assessment that because they were in charge of the budget they somehow caused the recession.

As Socrtease pointed out.... politicians do NOT exert that much control over the markets. Yes, they can aid them.... like the Clinton and Bush Capital gains cuts.... or they can hurt them like the Bush income tax cuts that did not translate to spending cuts.

But bottom line... the boom of the 1990s had far more to do with the likes of Gates and Dell than it did with Bush or Clinton.
 
Superfreak said:
The biggest run of the 1990's began in 1995... after Newt and Clinton went toe to toe over the budget. I was yanking your chain on the Reps caused the boom given your ridiculous assessment that because they were in charge of the budget they somehow caused the recession.

As Socrtease pointed out.... politicians do NOT exert that much control over the markets. Yes, they can aid them.... like the Clinton and Bush Capital gains cuts.... or they can hurt them like the Bush income tax cuts that did not translate to spending cuts.

But bottom line... the boom of the 1990s had far more to do with the likes of Gates and Dell than it did with Bush or Clinton.
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And the people said..."amen"
 
Socrtease said:
There was never a claim that the surge was going to overcome all the hatred and the sectarianism there. Only that it would calm the violence. That has happened. Now time for the other shoe to drop and for the Iraqi's to run their own country. It won't happen, it will look like it is happening while the Iraqi government's big brother stands behind them with a big fucking stick, but we have all already heard the double speak. Can't pull out of Iraq because the situation is unstable, once it is stable we can't withdraw because it will become unstable, (thus another place where the Germany/Iraq comparison falls flat on its ass). We can NEVER leave Iraq, which was the plan to begin with. If it becomes apparent to the Iraqi's that we are never going to leave, then violence will tick up again. That don't want us there for 5, 10 or 100 years. This is not the BRD, this is Iraq.
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don't forget all of our money being spread around in Iraq. How long can we afford to rent em ?
 
uscitizen said:
don't forget all of our money being spread around in Iraq. How long can we afford to rent em ?
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and this is a valid point as well. How much "peace" has the american tax payer leased? When we stop buying their pacifism will they become warlike again? If so, was it ever really peace?
 
Socrtease said:
and this is a valid point as well. How much "peace" has the american tax payer leased? When we stop buying their pacifism will they become warlike again? If so, was it ever really peace?
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like that fucking idiot has a point. Don't disrespect yourself Soc. You were right on point my man. Idiot just throws shit at the wall and every now and then something is worth a response. Basically fuck head is worth ignoring.
 
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