Obama's birth debate: It's about loyalty

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By James Lewis
The birth debate about Obama is real enough, but it is legally complicated, as analyzed by legal beagle Andrew McCarthy at National Review. No judge is going to question the Constitutional qualifications of an elected president. I'm sorry, but that's the practical reality. The judge is going to follow stare decisis -- the sheer weight of commitments that cannot be reversed without creating chaos. Once the political system of the United States, the voters, the media, and the politicians themselves are all committed to the proposition that Obama is president, trying to reverse it would mean riots in every city in the nation. At some point even debatable claims become irreversible. That is why Al Franken is now the US Senator from Minnesota, even if his election was corrupt and wrong. It's water under the bridge. Leave it to history.


And yet the Obama "birther" debate is important. What's important about it is the feeling a growing number of Americans have in their bones that Obama is foreign -- to our traditions, loyalties and shared understandings about the nature of America. In a way the legal debate matters less than that bone-deep sense that Obama is fundamentally "Other than American."



We all recognized George W as a prototypical American -- even if you didn't agree with him or even like him. There he was cutting dry brush around his modest West Texas ranch house, to keep down the fire danger, while the fat and foolish White House punditry stayed huddled back in the air conditioning. Or flying onto the aircraft carrier in a jet trainer after Saddam was overthrown. Or heading straight to walk Ground Zero with the cops and fire fighters right after 9/11. Bush looked at home with those cops, because he was. He likes those guys, and they like him. They are made of the same stuff. Obama isn't.


Obama is a socialist, which means that his deepest commitment is not to our nation but to the Internationalist Ruling Class. That is why the Left always has to argue that Americans' love of country will kill off the rest of the world -- by global warming, by overpopulation, any excuse will do. The fact that it's all lies proves the point: The Left must lie in order to convince millions of Americans that their normal feelings of patriotism are evil.


These facts are so obvious that they are not even worth arguing about. Obama's first international speech -- characteristically before getting elected -- started with the phrase "Citizens of the World!" Anybody on the Left has to think, "Workers of the World, Unite! You have nothing to lose but your chains!" That was the intended message to the left, of course -- that's how David Axelrod thinks, that's how Obama's mentors have always thought -- going back to his way-left mother and his Kenyan socialist father. The interracial affair between the Kansas anthropologist 20-year-old and the Kenyan socialist was itself a revolutionary act, the way these people think. It was a positive good to bear an interracial child, even if the kid was going to be abandoned by his father and mother. From that point onward the Old Left handled the whole chain of custody. Obama was passed along by leftie sponsors, one after the other. Frank Marshall Davis was the Communist Party guy in Hawaii, and wrote for the Hawaiian Communist Party rag. You can trace it link after link, following the Alinskyite chain all the way to the far left wing of the Chicago Machine, then 20 years of being preached at by Rev. Jeremiah Wright (whose brand of Christianity is only Marxism under a transparent layer of lies).


That's our Obama, and that's what he proudly proclaimed: Not Oh Say Can You See/ By the Dawn's Early Light, but Dreams from My (Kenyan Socialist) Father.


This is not a secret. Obama is foreign to America in a way that has little to do with his birth certificate. He could be American-born and still think in this very anti-American way. A lot of people are. But whatever he is legally, there is not a shred of doubt that he is steeped in an Anti-American way of thinking.


This is what I suspect the birther movement is about. Yes, the legalities are suspect. No, it will never make any practical difference. But most important, the birthers are aware of a deep intuition about Barry Soetoro Barack Hussein Obama: That he is profoundly out of tune with the meaning of America since the Founding. He is out of harmony with this country and this culture, like the dissonant scream of a power-saw biting into steel or concrete. He just grates on the American sensibility.


Obama is a Ruling Class Aristocrat -- by intuition, beliefs, and personal egomania. He was born to rule. It's partly that he has always gone to all the elite schools, from Hawaii to Harvard, just like Michelle. But he was put into those schools by the efforts of the left, which is a Socialist Ruling Class movement. The left in its own vision is always Ruling Class To Be that is being kept unjustly from taking over the world. That's why they hate real democracy, why they sneer at Coke and fries, and why capitalism is so bad: Because it constant caters to "vulgar" tastes.

the whole article here..
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/07/obamas_birth_debate_its_about.html
 
Oh now there's an unbiased opinion from the American Thinker quoting the national review!

You don't get it Meme. It's not about loyalty. It's about stupidity. How those on the far right can be just so mind boggling, grasping at straws, stupid.

To be honest with you and based on his writing and the conclusions he's drawing, I've met compost heaps with more intelligence then Mr. Lewis here. And I thought it wasn't possible for anyone on the far right to be dumber than Sean Hannity. I stand corrected. For that I thank you.
 
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By James Lewis
The birth debate about Obama is real enough, but it is legally complicated, as analyzed by legal beagle Andrew McCarthy at National Review. No judge is going to question the Constitutional qualifications of an elected president. I'm sorry, but that's the practical reality. The judge is going to follow stare decisis -- the sheer weight of commitments that cannot be reversed without creating chaos. Once the political system of the United States, the voters, the media, and the politicians themselves are all committed to the proposition that Obama is president, trying to reverse it would mean riots in every city in the nation. At some point even debatable claims become irreversible. That is why Al Franken is now the US Senator from Minnesota, even if his election was corrupt and wrong. It's water under the bridge. Leave it to history.


And yet the Obama "birther" debate is important. What's important about it is the feeling a growing number of Americans have in their bones that Obama is foreign -- to our traditions, loyalties and shared understandings about the nature of America. In a way the legal debate matters less than that bone-deep sense that Obama is fundamentally "Other than American."



We all recognized George W as a prototypical American -- even if you didn't agree with him or even like him. There he was cutting dry brush around his modest West Texas ranch house, to keep down the fire danger, while the fat and foolish White House punditry stayed huddled back in the air conditioning. Or flying onto the aircraft carrier in a jet trainer after Saddam was overthrown. Or heading straight to walk Ground Zero with the cops and fire fighters right after 9/11. Bush looked at home with those cops, because he was. He likes those guys, and they like him. They are made of the same stuff. Obama isn't.


Obama is a socialist, which means that his deepest commitment is not to our nation but to the Internationalist Ruling Class. That is why the Left always has to argue that Americans' love of country will kill off the rest of the world -- by global warming, by overpopulation, any excuse will do. The fact that it's all lies proves the point: The Left must lie in order to convince millions of Americans that their normal feelings of patriotism are evil.


These facts are so obvious that they are not even worth arguing about. Obama's first international speech -- characteristically before getting elected -- started with the phrase "Citizens of the World!" Anybody on the Left has to think, "Workers of the World, Unite! You have nothing to lose but your chains!" That was the intended message to the left, of course -- that's how David Axelrod thinks, that's how Obama's mentors have always thought -- going back to his way-left mother and his Kenyan socialist father. The interracial affair between the Kansas anthropologist 20-year-old and the Kenyan socialist was itself a revolutionary act, the way these people think. It was a positive good to bear an interracial child, even if the kid was going to be abandoned by his father and mother. From that point onward the Old Left handled the whole chain of custody. Obama was passed along by leftie sponsors, one after the other. Frank Marshall Davis was the Communist Party guy in Hawaii, and wrote for the Hawaiian Communist Party rag. You can trace it link after link, following the Alinskyite chain all the way to the far left wing of the Chicago Machine, then 20 years of being preached at by Rev. Jeremiah Wright (whose brand of Christianity is only Marxism under a transparent layer of lies).


That's our Obama, and that's what he proudly proclaimed: Not Oh Say Can You See/ By the Dawn's Early Light, but Dreams from My (Kenyan Socialist) Father.


This is not a secret. Obama is foreign to America in a way that has little to do with his birth certificate. He could be American-born and still think in this very anti-American way. A lot of people are. But whatever he is legally, there is not a shred of doubt that he is steeped in an Anti-American way of thinking.


This is what I suspect the birther movement is about. Yes, the legalities are suspect. No, it will never make any practical difference. But most important, the birthers are aware of a deep intuition about Barry Soetoro Barack Hussein Obama: That he is profoundly out of tune with the meaning of America since the Founding. He is out of harmony with this country and this culture, like the dissonant scream of a power-saw biting into steel or concrete. He just grates on the American sensibility.


Obama is a Ruling Class Aristocrat -- by intuition, beliefs, and personal egomania. He was born to rule. It's partly that he has always gone to all the elite schools, from Hawaii to Harvard, just like Michelle. But he was put into those schools by the efforts of the left, which is a Socialist Ruling Class movement. The left in its own vision is always Ruling Class To Be that is being kept unjustly from taking over the world. That's why they hate real democracy, why they sneer at Coke and fries, and why capitalism is so bad: Because it constant caters to "vulgar" tastes.

the whole article here..
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/07/obamas_birth_debate_its_about.html

American Thinker is the right's version of the Daily Kos.
 
typical lefty response...attack the site rather than comment on the content of the article..

and comparing AT to the DailyKos is just plain ass funny..
 
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typical lefty response...attack the site rather than comment on the content of the article..

and comparing AT to the DailyKos is just plain ass funny..

James Lewis is such a balanced and thoughtful journalist. Here is an extract from one of his thought provoking articles

A lot of gay messages were sent out by the big Speech to Planet Earth at Berlin’s Tiergarten — the Berlin zoo, a center of gay life, right by a nude park for gay men, which the media somehow forgot to tell you about.

http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/10636.html
 
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maybe the article hit on a a nervous nerve that the Obamabots gotta be feeling right about now..

the American people are starting to lose all faith with the Hugo, except of course those that are die hard fans that will never find any fault with him.

ouch, must be hurting:)
 
James Lewis is such a balanced and thoughtful journalist. Here is an extract from one of his thought provoking articles

A lot of gay messages were sent out by the big Speech to Planet Earth at Berlin’s Tiergarten — the Berlin zoo, a center of gay life, right by a nude park for gay men, which the media somehow forgot to tell you about.

http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/10636.html

too bad you all can't find the time to research your hero, "Hugo" and post about him..
and since we are attacking websites, sadly no one has ever heard of sadlyno.com
 
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too bad you all can't find the time to research your hero, "Hugo" and post about him..
and since we are attacking websites, sadly no one has ever heard of sadlyno.com

Too bad that you find it necessary to post hack pieces from a wackjob journo.
 
Too bad that you find it necessary to post hack pieces from a wackjob journo.

why not, I've seen people here post stuff from the Huffington post, vanity fair..haven't seen anything from the dailyKos that I can remember...
it's the content in the article that I found interesting, guess you didn't, eh..
 
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here's a picture of a book the Hugo was reading..some real American loving stuff..

obamazakaria.jpg
 
It's perfectly safe meme.

I've just had a quick look and, so far, my computer has failed to blow up.

still not doing it...but I hope you enjoyed it.
if they want to give a clue to what or where it leads, then I'll think about it..
If not, then I don't give a damn..
 
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No, no - the birth debate is about rightie nutters creating as many useless threads on the topic as possible.

Keep at it, you nutty birther! Don't listen to all of those who are telling you that it's hurting your party...you know better!
 
still not doing it...but I hope you enjoyed it.
if they want to give a clue to what or where it leads, then I'll think about it..
If not, then I don't give a damn..

Are we still talking about the link here?
 
No, no - the birth debate is about rightie nutters creating as many useless threads on the topic as possible.

Keep at it, you nutty birther! Don't listen to all of those who are telling you that it's hurting your party...you know better!

and the secrecy surrounding "the Hugo" isn't hurting you "progressives"..
keep thinking that it isn't..even though you know it is..
 
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