Our Fine-Tuned Universe: Accident or Design?

[Commander Dutch]

You are now on permanent ignore.

Good riddance!

How Christian of you.

 

[Commander Dutch]

Pussy

She's a hypocrite. The worst form of Christian.

 

[ZenMode]

ZenMode:

It has nothing to do with the sun. It's because the human body has become imperfect because of inherited sin from the first man, Adam. And nobody said anything about an apple. The Bible did not identify the forbidden fruit.

Adam was told not to eat from one specific fruit tree but that he could eat from all of the others.

Genesis 2:8​

Further, Jehovah God planted a garden in Eʹden, toward the east; and there he put the man whom he had formed.

Genesis 2:9​

Thus Jehovah God made to grow out of the ground every tree that was pleasing to look at and good for food and also the tree of life in the middle of the garden and the tree of the knowledge of good and bad.

Genesis 2:15​

Jehovah God took the man and settled him in the garden of Eʹden to cultivate it and to take care of it.

Genesis 2:16​

Jehovah God also gave this command to the man: “From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction.

Genesis 2:17​

But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die.”



Adam rebelled against the Almighty and ate of the forbidden fruit. He thereby became imperfect. He failed the test and brought old age, sickness, and eventual death to all of humanity.

Romans 5:12​

That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because they had all sinned—.

I understand what the Bible says. Adam, Eve and the Sun all existed before Adam ate the apple. So are you saying that human skin changed from before he ate the apple to after he ate the apple?

 

[Commander Dutch]

I understand what the Bible says. Adam, Eve and the Sun all existed before Adam ate the apple. So are you saying that human skin changed from before he ate the apple to after he ate the apple?

Asking AlterEgo hard questions will only piss her off, Mode. Jus' sayin'.

Don't expect an answer to that question anymore than the incest question of Cain becoming a motherfucker.

 

[Alter2Ego]

I understand what the Bible says. Adam, Eve and the Sun all existed before Adam ate the apple. So are you saying that human skin changed from before he ate the apple to after he ate the apple?

ZenMode:

The entire human body began to slowly die after Adam rebelled against Jehovah God. Notice how the scripture says it:

Genesis 2:16​

Jehovah God also gave this command to the man: “From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction.

Genesis 2:17​

But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die.”



Adam did not die immediately, but he was dead within a "day" because Jehovah is able to designate specific time periods to be equivalent to a "day" whenever it is applied to humans.

2 Peter 3:8​

However, do not let this escape your notice, beloved ones, that one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day.



Scripture says Adam lived to be 930 years old (which is less than 1,000 years = a "day").

Genesis 5:5​

So all the days of Adam’s life amounted to 930 years, and then he died.

 

[ZenMode]

ZenMode:

The entire human body began to slowly die after Adam rebelled against Jehovah God. Notice how the scripture says it:

Genesis 2:16​

Jehovah God also gave this command to the man: “From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction.

Genesis 2:17​

But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die.”



Adam did not die immediately, but he was dead within a "day" because Jehovah is able to designate specific time periods to be equivalent to a "day" whenever it is applied to humans.

2 Peter 3:8​

However, do not let this escape your notice, beloved ones, that one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day.



Scripture says Adam lived to be 930 years old (which is less than 1,000 years = a "day").

Genesis 5:5​

So all the days of Adam’s life amounted to 930 years, and then he died.

It would have to be more than the body dying, right? If there was UV protection, presumably existing at a molecular level. Any change in that would fundamentally change the molecular makeup of the human body.

 

[Yakuda]

Yakuda:

They have no problem admitting that the car required intelligent designers (humans), while they get on the religion forum and insist that our universe (against which the car pales by comparison) created itself.

oh riiiight that makes sense....to them