September 23, 2017

Stretch

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A couple months ago I promised Irish I would post something regarding this date in greater detail here in this particular forum.

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For all my brothers and sisters here with understanding, there is an astronomical (not astrological) event coming on Sept.23 which will only occur once in man's history. There were partial events of this sign given by God to Abraham and then again to the Wise Men at Christ's birth.
A few guidelines:
The "woman" is Israel.
The "dragon" is Satan.
The desert is most likely Sinai.
Jupiter is also known as the King star representing Christ.
The stars surrounding Leo comprise the crown above Virgo.
Jupiter finally exits the quadrant of Virgo's womb the day after Rosh Hashanah this year.

Two quick things about signs:
1) Genesis 1:14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the vault of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark sacred times, and days and years,"

2)Matthew 24:34-36 "Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have happened. Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will never pass away. No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

For prophetic purposes though, we can't get much closer to Christ's return to gather His own prior to the Great Tribulation upon the earth (the Rapture of the Church). For any unbelievers reading this post, we are not talking about the end of the world.


Scriptures to follow along with for this video:

Revelation 12:1-6

The Woman, Israel

1A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; 2and she was with child; and she cried out, being in labor and in pain to give birth.


The Red Dragon, Satan

3Then another sign appeared in heaven: and behold, a great red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and on his heads were seven diadems. 4And his tail swept away a third of the stars of heaven and threw them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth, so that when she gave birth he might devour her child.


The Male Child, Christ

5And she gave birth to a son, a male child, who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron; and her child was caught up to God and to His throne. 6Then the woman fled into the wilderness where she had a place prepared by God, so that there she would be nourished for one thousand two hundred and sixty days.

AND

Revelation 12:13-14
13And when the dragon saw that he was thrown down to the earth, he persecuted the woman who gave birth to the male child. 14But the two wings of the great eagle were given to the woman, so that she could fly into the desert to her place, where she was nourished for a time and times and half a time, from the presence of the serpent.


Another thing to keep in mind. We have an eclipse coming in a week. If you look at sites like NOAA, they show exactly what you would see through a telescope. And, it shows how the additional 3 stars (Venus, Mars & Mercury) are now in view to create the perfect 12 star crown needed for 33 days from then. Scientifically and prophetically things are lining up right on schedule. We really do have an AWESOME God!


Revelation 22:20: He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.



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Another excellent presentation regarding this date is found here. I highly recommend it. This missionary Pastor explains this in very succinct, simple and clear language. Watch it to the end with a calcualtor if you must, but the math is truly obvious and simple. This guy's got the numbers and WOW, do they ever add up!!!!
God commanded the Jews to celebrate a Jubilee year every 50 years.
Balfour Declaration 1917 +50
Israel regains territory 1967 +50
2017 Time for possible Rapture??? :awesome:


 
America is under God's judgment and rightly so.
I just realized that this upcoming total eclipse will only be visible in America according to various weather sites.
The next total eclipse will be seen by other countries in 2024.
7 years.
The Great Tribulation lasts for 7 years.
Immediately after the tribulation of those days: ‘The sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.’ At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.
Matthew 24:29-30



Jesus answered and said to him, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God."
John 3:3

If you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.
Romans 10:9-10

For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
John3:16
 
This guy's got the numbers and WOW, do they ever add up!!!!
God commanded the Jews to celebrate a Jubilee year every 50 years.
Balfour Declaration 1917 +50
Israel regains territory 1967 +50
2017 Time for possible Rapture???

The Earth is not 6,000 years old, humans did not walk the planet with dinosaurs, and I guarantee you with 200 percent certainty you will not be raptured on September 23.

I will try to remember to bump this thread on September 24 to remind you how wrong you were and how foolish it is to put weight on the opinions of frauds, shams, and quacks.
 
The Earth is not 6,000 years old, humans did not walk the planet with dinosaurs, and I guarantee you with 200 percent certainty you will not be raptured on September 23.

I will try to remember to bump this thread on September 24 to remind you how wrong you were and how foolish it is to put weight on the opinions of frauds, shams, and quacks.

you are so smart to know the earth is older than 6000 years! keep showing off your awesome intelligence cypress
 
cypress it's not that I disagree with you but what you are doing is the equivalent of beating up on a crippled kid and then bragging about how strong you are.
 
The Earth is not 6,000 years old, humans did not walk the planet with dinosaurs, and I guarantee you with 200 percent certainty you will not be raptured on September 23.

I will try to remember to bump this thread on September 24 to remind you how wrong you were and how foolish it is to put weight on the opinions of frauds, shams, and quacks.


Nobody including myself has "predicted" an exact day, hour and minute of the Rapture. God is sovereign and he will do as he pleases when he wants to. The historical evidence is here that there will be a "significant" event regarding Israel in this time frame. God does not lie. Satan is the father of lies. Jesus told us to watch for certain signs. This thread is for those with understanding. You and many will not believe and therefore can not believe. Take your argument to God...your fight is with him. No believer here will argue with you.

There is "nothing new under the sun" (Solomon). Only 8 people believed in the time of Noah...they lived.

"...some believed the things which were spoken and some believed not." John 12:24

"He (God) has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, so that they cannot see with their eyes, and understand with their hearts, and turn, and I would heal them." John 12:40
 

"Bottom line: From the standpoint of astronomy, there’s nothing unique or unusual about the sun, moon and planets – or the constellation Virgo – on September 23, 2017, despite claims on the Internet of a unique and significant celestial event, supposedly “mirroring” the Bible’s Book of Revelation. In the past 1,000 years, this same event has happened at least four times already, in 1827, 1483, 1293, and 1056."

Interesting but, incorrect. The same thing has not happened. As I explained already, there have been partial combinations of these stars in the past.
•September 14, 1056
(Problem: Only Venus is above her head near Leo, but Mercury and Mars are near her head.
•September 5, 1293
(This one is close; Venus, Mars and Mercury are aligned above her head near Leo, Jupiter is in her womb, clothed in the sun, moon at her feet… but it happened 655 years before Israel was re-established.
•September 6, 1483
(Problem: Mercury is near her shoulder, only Mars is above her head near Leo.
•September 24, 1827
(Problem: Mercury and Venus are near her shoulder, only Mars is above her head near Leo.
 
"Bottom line: From the standpoint of astronomy, there’s nothing unique or unusual about the sun, moon and planets – or the constellation Virgo – on September 23, 2017, despite claims on the Internet of a unique and significant celestial event, supposedly “mirroring” the Bible’s Book of Revelation. In the past 1,000 years, this same event has happened at least four times already, in 1827, 1483, 1293, and 1056."

Interesting but, incorrect. The same thing has not happened. As I explained already, there have been partial combinations of these stars in the past.
•September 14, 1056
(Problem: Only Venus is above her head near Leo, but Mercury and Mars are near her head.
•September 5, 1293
(This one is close; Venus, Mars and Mercury are aligned above her head near Leo, Jupiter is in her womb, clothed in the sun, moon at her feet… but it happened 655 years before Israel was re-established.
•September 6, 1483
(Problem: Mercury is near her shoulder, only Mars is above her head near Leo.
•September 24, 1827
(Problem: Mercury and Venus are near her shoulder, only Mars is above her head near Leo.
. Okay, see you in September!
 
I just now read your bio (I take it that is YOU? "Grind"?) You're a vaper? Me too...what's your set up?

I am all about portability and stealth. I currently have two vapes. My first vape was a Magic Flight Launch Box. When it first came out it was pretty much the only vape for weed on the market, but has since been very much passed by. It's still kinda cool in a very organic and ritualistic sense. My newest vape and my daily driver these days is the hopperlabs Grasshopper: https://www.grasshoppervape.com/ It heats up in literally nearly instantly (1-3 seconds), is purely convection heating, on demand, highly efficient, and it looks just like a normal pen. Great for wanting to sneak into concerts or w/e. Pretty soon I'll prob get a session vape to change things up. Maybe an arizer air. I hear good things.

Todays choice strain is strarkiller OG, a very exceptional indica.
 
They would have come in handy back in the late sixties for me, but no more, LOL.
I enjoy my Innokin Cool Fire IV sub ohm with a Sub G tank at home. Or when I'm out and about, the new Penguin AIO cartridge mod, great invention, don't need to figure my volts or wattage with it and it holds 5 mils of juice.
Favorite flavors right now are coffee cake, key lime pie and arctic ice. Best one is cream of the crop described as:
First is a layer of rich sweet cream, infused with a splash of vanilla bourbon. Next comes a blend of crushed macadamias and roasted hazelnuts, lightly dusted over a thick, buttery pie crust. Then, the finishing touch: a satisfying hint of smooth, mellow tobacco, appearing briefly on the exhale.
 
Very interesting. It feels like a bit of a stretch. Taking somewhat abstract bible versus, and applying it to constellations, which were also created by the Romans.

Btw, wasn't the book of revelation created in 1500s, by a protestant reverend? I always wondered how it got into the bible.

Sorry I am just a skeptic on everything.

Also, Stretch, I don't recall what our original conversation was that led to this. I remember asking you what the Sept. 23 prophecy was, and you'd get back to me. That's about it.

Glad you did though. Interesting post either way.
 
Very interesting. It feels like a bit of a stretch. Taking somewhat abstract bible versus, and applying it to constellations, which were also created by the Romans.

Btw, wasn't the book of revelation created in 1500s, by a protestant reverend? I always wondered how it got into the bible.

Sorry I am just a skeptic on everything.

Also, Stretch, I don't recall what our original conversation was that led to this. I remember asking you what the Sept. 23 prophecy was, and you'd get back to me. That's about it.

Glad you did though. Interesting post either way.

Okay just looked up book of Revelation and I couldn't be more wrong. It was written by John the apostle , in 81-96AD. Although most scholars agree it was a different John not, actually an Apostle of christ.
 
Some random thoughts as I studied last night.

August (Elul) and September (Tishri) overlap in the Hebrew calendar.

It's a time for repentance and atonement. We look to the words of the prophet Isaiah, who said, "Seek God when He is at hand; Call upon Him when He is near" (Is 55:6).

It will be in the 7th month, Tishri where we have the Feast of Trumpets and the aforementioned celestial alignment. The Feast of Trumpets from the age of the Law translates to the time period Church age as the Rapture of the Church.

This total eclipse is entering through our 33rd state. It is exiting in Lake Moultrie, S.C. which is at 33.33 degrees latitude N. Then 33 days later will be the Rev.12 alignment. This type of 'additional' new moon occurs every 33 months. The gematria for 'ECLIPSE' is 33.

Meteorologists show the path of the eclipse is 70 miles wide. 70 years is the Bible length of a generation.
"So also, when you see all these things, you know that He is near, right at the door. Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have happened. Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will never pass away.…"
Matthew 24: 33-35


http://www.stellarium.org/
Shown by using the Stellarium, a straight line drawn between earth, then the moon, then the sun, if continued would lead directly to Regulus which is the King star in the constellation of Leo (which represents the Lion of Judah who is Christ Jesus).

On an eclipse map, the crossover point of the 2017 and 2024 eclipses meet in an area referred to as Little Egypt in IL which even has a town there named Cairo. The spirit of Egypt dominates American culture.
"Behold, the LORD is riding on a swift cloud and is about to come to Egypt; The idols of Egypt will tremble at His presence, And the heart of the Egyptians will melt within them. So I will incite Egyptians against Egyptians; And they will each fight against his brother and each against his neighbor, City against city and kingdom against kingdom. Then the spirit of the Egyptians will be demoralized within them; And I will confound their strategy, So that they will resort to idols and ghosts of the dead And to mediums and spiritists."
Isaiah 19:1-3

The 2017 eclipse occurs days before the first day of Sukkot (aka Feast of the Ingathering). 45 also happens to be the gematria value of the Hebrew word for MANKIND.

On the first day of Sukkot, 45 days after the eclipse and 45 minutes before the sunrise, the sun will be precisely Pi/210x10^10 kilometers from Jerusalem.

The Israelites were in Egypt for 210 years, ending in the Exodus led by Moses in 2448 on the Hebrew calendar.

The connection between "mankind" and the year (this year now 5778) can be seen in a simple timeline spanning from the first man (Adam) to 5778.

King David was born in 2854, and died 70 years later in 2924. So, the halfway point in David's life (35 years old in 2889) was also the halfway point from Creation to the year 5778. (2889x2=5778)

The acronym from the 5778 timeline spells the end for "mankind".
Adam -- David -- Messiah
ADM (Alef Dalet Mem) = (mankind)
 
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Some random thoughts as I studied last night.

August (Elul) and September (Tishri) overlap in the Hebrew calendar.

It's a time for repentance and atonement. We look to the words of the prophet Isaiah, who said, "Seek God when He is at hand; Call upon Him when He is near" (Is 55:6).

It will be in the 7th month, Tishri where we have the Feast of Trumpets and the aforementioned celestial alignment. The Feast of Trumpets from the age of the Law translates to the time period Church age as the Rapture of the Church.

This total eclipse is entering through our 33rd state. It is exiting in Lake Moultrie, S.C. which is at 33.33 degrees latitude N. Then 33 days later will be the Rev.12 alignment. This type of 'additional' new moon occurs every 33 months. The gematria for 'ECLIPSE' is 33.

Meteorologists show the path of the eclipse is 70 miles wide. 70 years is the Bible length of a generation.
"So also, when you see all these things, you know that He is near, right at the door. Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have happened. Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will never pass away.…"
Matthew 24: 33-35


http://www.stellarium.org/
Shown by using the Stellarium, a straight line drawn between earth, then the moon, then the sun, if continued would lead directly to Regulus which is the King star in the constellation of Leo (which represents the Lion of Judah who is Christ Jesus).

On an eclipse map, the crossover point of the 2017 and 2024 eclipses meet in an area referred to as Little Egypt in IL which even has a town there named Cairo. The spirit of Egypt dominates American culture.
"Behold, the LORD is riding on a swift cloud and is about to come to Egypt; The idols of Egypt will tremble at His presence, And the heart of the Egyptians will melt within them. So I will incite Egyptians against Egyptians; And they will each fight against his brother and each against his neighbor, City against city and kingdom against kingdom. Then the spirit of the Egyptians will be demoralized within them; And I will confound their strategy, So that they will resort to idols and ghosts of the dead And to mediums and spiritists."
Isaiah 19:1-3

The 2017 eclipse occurs days before the first day of Sukkot (aka Feast of the Ingathering). 45 also happens to be the gematria value of the Hebrew word for MANKIND.

On the first day of Sukkot, 45 days after the eclipse and 45 minutes before the sunrise, the sun will be precisely Pi/210x10^10 kilometers from Jerusalem.

The Israelites were in Egypt for 210 years, ending in the Exodus led by Moses in 2448 on the Hebrew calendar.

The connection between "mankind" and the year (this year now 5778) can be seen in a simple timeline spanning from the first man (Adam) to 5778.

King David was born in 2854, and died 70 years later in 2924. So, the halfway point in David's life (35 years old in 2889) was also the halfway point from Creation to the year 5778. (2889x2=5778)

The acronym from the 5778 timeline spells the end for "mankind".
Adam -- David __ Messiah
ADM (Alef Dalet Mem) = (mankind)
Are you going to be disappointed if nothing happens?
 
this would be happening no matter what religions there were on the earth.


this is science not religion


religion is myth


science is fact





pagans watched the stars before christianity existed


its sciencey so you wont like it
 
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