Seven biggest drops…

Republicans did a poll that found out that their most ardent supporters want the market to crash to get revenge on Americans who are doing OK.
Democrats did a poll that found out that their most ardent supporters are entirely gullible and will believe absolutely anything the DNC wants them to believe if it is presented as "poll results."
 
I have never said that.
You absolutely did say that the economy had crashed because Trump was a failure. Ergo, the economy must also still be crashed in August. I am asking you to explain the discrepancy between what you are claiming and what I am observing. When August rolls around, I want to have a whole lot of clarity to throw in your face.

It's not my fault that you deliberately choose to speak in grossly exaggerated mischaracterizations. Now you get to answer for them. Start explaining.

All I know is we are looking at a recession either this year or next.
Instead of presenting vague and unverifiable whining, explain in economic terms all the specific bad things that will befall us because of Trump's actions. You know what Trump is going to do, always; he sings his plans and intentions from the tops of the highest mountains ... so be clear and specific instead of whining like a cry-baby.

What specific economic nightmare are We the People facing? Go on record. What will you be throwing in my face come mid-August?

I used to think there was a possibility that the recession would not happen until after the midterm elections, but trump has really messed things up.
Great, start here. How has he really messed things up, specifically? How will this result in an economic nightmare for We the People ... and when (I'll let you pick the time and effect)?
 
I do seem to be right a lot lately, but that is not really important. The markets are predicting a recession, the economists are predicting a recession, the major corporations are predicting a recession, and most importantly, the higher spending consumers are predicting a recession.

It is always possible that all these people are wrong, and IBD is right... But I am betting they are right.... especially the last group. When higher spending consumers predict a recession, they cutback, and a recession happens.

You absolutely did say that the economy had crashed because Trump was a failure.
I said we would have a recession either this year or next, because of trump. I did not say it would happen "mid-August." So take from that whatever you want.

Ergo, the economy must also still be crashed in August.
About three quarters of "this year or next year" is after this August. What is this interest in August in particular?

I am asking you to explain the discrepancy between what you are claiming and what I am observing.
What have you observed?

When August rolls around
Why August? When August rolls around, either I will be right, or I will say I will be right in the next 16 months. When November of 2026 rolls around, either I will be right or you will be right, and it will really matter

There is another group that is predicting a recession, and that is many Republican politicians. They are terrified of a blood bath because of a recession.

Instead of presenting vague and unverifiable whining
A recession will either happen or not in the next two years. It will be very verifiable, and not vague at all.

What specific economic nightmare are We the People facing? Go on record. What will you be throwing in my face come mid-August?
I have been specific that we are facing stagflation, inflation plus a recession within the next two years. When trump was first installed, I was worried that it would not happen until the midterm elections, but trump has been moving quickly to hit the economy.

Again, why August?
 
I do seem to be right a lot lately, but that is not really important. The markets are predicting a recession, the economists are predicting a recession, the major corporations are predicting a recession, and most importantly, the higher spending consumers are predicting a recession.
Great, nameless "economists." You don't build much confidence.

It is always possible that all these people are wrong, and IBD is right...
Yep, all of your nameless TDS-infected leftists have an almost 0.000 batting average while my observations have always occurred exactly as observed.

But I am betting they are right.... especially the last group.
Of course, you don't want to sully your 0.000 batting average.

I said we would have a recession either this year or next, because of trump.
Your claim is summarily dismissed. This is called a Nostradamus fallacy whereby you declare something extremely vague is going to happen, hoping to appear "brilliant" and "visionary" when you declare that your scenario has occurred "as you predicted." Unless you start loading up on specifics, waiting until your "recession" occurs only garners the "Nostradamus prediction" label and dismissal by all rational adults. Add to that your penchant for mischaracterizing and exaggerating, everyone is now expecting you to pick some sector that had a drop in employment, to claim that the recession is in full swing as you predicted, and declare that you were right all along that Trump has been an abject failure both terms, all this despite the US achieving greatness across the board.

Cough up substantive specifics or be content for your claim to be considered completely empty.

I did not say it would happen "mid-August." So take from that whatever you want.
You stated that the economy has crashed and that Trump's failure is to blame. You were very clear. You were very specific. What do you mean by that beside the economy having crashed? With that being the case, what problems will we be seeing in August stemming from our economy having crashed?

There is another group that is predicting a recession,
Oh yeah, that's right, that other nameless group with uncounted, nameless members also predict an unspecified and undefined recession. The recession must therefore be absolutely certain.

They are terrified of a blood bath because of a recession.
I'm sure the Republicans appreciate you graciously acting as their spokesperson.

A recession will either happen or not in the next two years.
Wait, I'm going to need to think about this one.

I have been specific that we are facing stagflation, inflation plus a recession within the next two years.
Nope, this is LAME. You have been nowhere near specific enough.

When trump was first installed,
Biden has been the only oligarch installed as head of state in the US.
 
Your claim is summarily dismissed.
Here is something we can agree on: what comes next is because of trump. If it is great, it is trump's credit. If it is terrible, it is trump's fault. Can we agree on that?

I do not want you posting in November of 2026 that this is not trump's fault. he has had a level of control that no previous president has had, and has done things that no previous president has done. This is on trump, good or bad.

I really do not know what your obsession with August is. The important date politically for me is November 3rd, 2026, when the midterm elections happen. If the stagflation happens before then, it will be a blood bath for Republicans.

I have been buying options until the end of the quarter, so June 30th. As it turns out, that was a lot longer than I needed, and I ended up not making as much as I could.
 
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Tbird19482 is maintaining his high quality posting style.
 
Here is something we can agree on: what comes next is because of trump. If it is great, it is trump's credit. If it is terrible, it is trump's fault. Can we agree on that?
Sure, we can agree on this, starting June 1st.

I do not want you posting in November of 2026 that this is not trump's fault. he has had a level of control that no previous president has had, and has done things that no previous president has done. This is on trump, good or bad.
Fine, and you agree to acknowledge every positive thing making America great. None of your turning a blind eye to all the good just so you can hone in on one trivial negative thing and mischaracterize it as the end of the world.

I really do not know what your obsession with August is.
Too bad. If I want to obsess over August, that's exactly what I will do, and you will like it.

On the other hand, we'll assign responsibility to Trump on June 1st and we'll just see how it goes.

The important date politically for me is November 3rd, 2026, when the midterm elections happen. If the stagflation happens before then, it will be a blood bath for Republicans.
Don't you get tired of being wrong all the time? Regardless, the money will pour in from the tariffs and life will be good. Trump will endorse many Republicans who will thusly be elected.

I hope you realize that nobody is listening to the incessant Democrat fear-mongering and panic-peddling anymore. Everybody has become inured to the baseless frantic-antics and just tunes it out.
 
Not by percentages.
Yes, percentage tends to make the more recent presidents more to blame... But in that case where is Biden, or Obama? Obama should be more heavily represented than Bush, and yet he is not. The fact is Obama delivered almost a decade of steady growth. Biden and Obama rebuilt America from disasters.

trump's success? So far it is that he continued Obama's growth for a year or two.

You might claim he will have future success, but I believe he will have future failure. We can at least agree that trump will be responsible for the future.
 
Nice try.
COVID fraud?
Tell that to the families that had people die from it.
Yes, COVID fraud.

This would be a good time to review what a "covid death" is...

COVID DEATH: noun
A death by any cause whatsoever whereby the deceased is claimed by someone/anyone to have had any of a long list of symptoms that could potentially be indications of possible COVID-19 infection. This does not mean that the death was caused by, exacerbated by, accelerated by or even made more likely by the COVID virus. A COVID death is not a death from COVID but is rather a death with possible COVID. No testing for COVID is required for the "COVID death" determination to be made, nor is any sort of confirmation of COVID presence within the deceased; it is sufficient that some symptoms merely be anecdotally reported for the hospital or other medical facility to receive incentive assistance funding for reporting higher numbers of COVID deaths that aid the WHO in spreading panic and ultimately in achieving their victory condition.

Should we also review the death certificate fraud?
 
The 7 largest Dow Jones drops in American history:

1. Trump, 3/16/20
-2,997.10

2. Trump, 3/12/20
-2,352.60

3. Trump, 3/9/20
-2,013.76

4. Trump, 6/11/20
-1,861.82

5. Trump, 4/3/25
-1,679.39

6. Trump, 3/11/20
-1,464.94

7. Trump, 03/18/20
-1,338.46

Tired of winning yet?
Once again, Jarod gets it completely wrong. Leftists sure do suck at math.

For starters, you need to use percentages or else you're only going to get results from recent years. (IOW, all the results will be related to the Democrats' fear mongering over COVID or the Democrats' fear mongering over tariffs).
 
Yes, COVID fraud.

This would be a good time to review what a "covid death" is...

COVID DEATH: noun
A death by any cause whatsoever whereby the deceased is claimed by someone/anyone to have had any of a long list of symptoms that could potentially be indications of possible COVID-19 infection. This does not mean that the death was caused by, exacerbated by, accelerated by or even made more likely by the COVID virus. A COVID death is not a death from COVID but is rather a death with possible COVID. No testing for COVID is required for the "COVID death" determination to be made, nor is any sort of confirmation of COVID presence within the deceased; it is sufficient that some symptoms merely be anecdotally reported for the hospital or other medical facility to receive incentive assistance funding for reporting higher numbers of COVID deaths that aid the WHO in spreading panic and ultimately in achieving their victory condition.

Should we also review the death certificate fraud?
Your post look eerily familiar.

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The 7 largest Dow Jones drops in American history:

1. Trump, 3/16/20
-2,997.10

2. Trump, 3/12/20
-2,352.60

3. Trump, 3/9/20
-2,013.76

4. Trump, 6/11/20
-1,861.82

5. Trump, 4/3/25
-1,679.39

6. Trump, 3/11/20
-1,464.94

7. Trump, 03/18/20
-1,338.46

Tired of winning yet?
Still can't get a grip on what inflation is, eh, Pretender? Cherry picking fallacy.
 
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