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Watermark said:
Well that's over a limited scope Solitary. One single pattern isn't enough to arrive at a conclusion.

http://www.bradycampaign.org/issues/concealedcarry/

More guns = more crime, or at the very least they impede reduction of the crime rate. A 1999 study by the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence (formerly the Center to Prevent Handgun Violence), using FBI crime statistics, demonstrated that relaxing CCW laws may have an adverse effect on a state's crime rate.10 Between 1992 and 1998, the violent crime rate in states which kept strict CCW laws fell by an average of 30%. The violent crime rate for the states that had weak CCW laws during this same time saw their violent crime rates drop by only 15%. Nationally, violent crime declined by 25% during that same period.11 These numbers indicate that states with stricter CCW laws have found more effective ways to reduce their crime rates than simply letting more people carry hidden handguns.
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"The violent crime rates dropped everywhere in the 90's. It had nothing to do with concealed carry or the shoot first law."

It pretty well debunks your statement that the crime rates dropped everywhere, and that it had nothing to do with the CCW or shoot first laws.

Unless you can offer some better rationale for why the crime rates changed as drastically as they did in the time that they did, it is very good evidence that the gun laws work.
 
"When the law went into effect, the Dade County Police began a program to record all arrest and non arrest incidents involving concealed carry licensees. Between September of 1987 and August of 1992, Dade County recorded 4 crimes committed by licensees with firearms. None of these crimes resulted in an injury. The record keeping program was abandoned in 1992 because there were not enough incidents to justify tracking them."

If the people with a CCW are the ones committing the crimes, why didn't Dade County Florida have any cases for this new program?
 
The Brady Center is a bunch of fucking liars. They always have been and always will be. The truth of right to carry and CCW is exactly the opposite of what they claim.

Every state and region that has enacted right to carry laws has lowered crime rates which are declining faster than the national average, with Florida being one of the more prevalent examples. Areas with strict gun control and no right to carry, like Chicago, have higher crime rates, and in many cases crime rates increasing while the national average is decreasing.
 
uscitizen said:
emo means emotional ? no ?
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Kinda, but not just 'emotional' ...if that were so, everyone would be emo, except for robots and droids, because all humans exhibit emotion in everything they do.

The pop-culture term "emo" is used to describe the angst found in many of today's youth, a melancholy and sometimes cynical attitude, probably caused by antidepressants in their mothers breast milk, or exposure to Ozzie Osborne at an early age.
 
Good Luck said:
The Brady Center is a bunch of fucking liars. They always have been and always will be. The truth of right to carry and CCW is exactly the opposite of what they claim.

Every state and region that has enacted right to carry laws has lowered crime rates which are declining faster than the national average, with Florida being one of the more prevalent examples. Areas with strict gun control and no right to carry, like Chicago, have higher crime rates, and in many cases crime rates increasing while the national average is decreasing.
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Illinois actually has a lower murder rate than Mississippi.
 
Watermark said:
Illinois actually has a lower murder rate than Mississippi.
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http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/tables/08s0301.pdf

According to this site, Mississippi had a violent crime rate of 295 per 100,000, and a murder rate of 7 per 100,000. While Illinois had a violent crime rate of 546 and a murder rate of 6 (both were per 100,000).

So you are technically correct that Illinois has a lower murder rate. But the violent crime rate was almost double that of Mississippi's.
 
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