The China Fantasy: How Our Leaders Explain Away Chinese Repression

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The China Fantasy: How Our Leaders Explain Away Chinese Repression (Hardcover)
by James Mann (Author)

http://www.amazon.com/China-Fantasy-Leaders-Explain-Repression/dp/0670038253
As this angry, lively little book makes clear, Mann has had enough! His main target is all those American policymakers -- aided and abetted by big business, the media and Beltway think tanks -- who have sold a bill of goods to the American people. Since Nixon first made his historic trip to Beijing in 1972, Mann charges, American elites have dispensed soothing and dangerously misleading nostrums to the public. Yes, China under the control of the Communist Party is somewhat authoritarian -- even, if you want to be rude, a totalitarian state. But that state of affairs, Americans are reassured, can't last forever. At some point, perhaps quite soon, China's dramatic economic development will inevitably lead to democracy as its growing middle class demands more rights and freedoms. Meanwhile, and confusingly, comes a set of warnings that China is more fragile than it seems and that if we don't all handle it with kid gloves, it could collapse into chaos and civil war, as it has done so often before.

Consequently, Mann argues, foreign critics of China's human rights abuses are told not to be so outspoken. After all, there is no point in hurting Chinese feelings or making the Chinese authorities dig in their heels. Mann is particularly scathing about what he describes as the "Lexicon of Dismissal." Criticism of China is dismissed as "bashing," "provocative" or "anti-China" (a favorite of the Chinese themselves), and any such censure always runs the risk of turning China into an enemy.

In his anger over this muzzling trend, Mann comes close to seeing a conspiracy by well-meaning but self-serving American elites -- with, of course, the happy acquiescence of the Chinese communists -- to keep the United States investing in and trading with China.

The China Fantasy raises an awkward and important question: What if there is a third alternative between the rise of democracy and the collapse of China's political order? What if that alternative is the survival of the one-party state, with all its apparatus of control and repression? In an era when capitalists can join the party built by Mao, the Chinese communists have already shown how adept they are at changing their spots. What would it mean for the United States -- and, indeed, the world -- if 20 or 30 years from now a much richer and more powerful China proved to be every bit as authoritarian a state as it is today? What if that China were one in which the middle classes decided, much as they did in Hitler's Germany, to opt for stability and prosperity over democracy?

Mann thinks that scenario highly likely, even if he does not share the alarmist view now taking root in some Washington circles that China is going to challenge the United States militarily. His concern is both that an undemocratic China is bad for the Chinese themselves and that it will be bad for the world, giving comfort and even support to other unsavory regimes as it already does to that of Robert Mugabe in Zimbabwe. What seems to outrage him most, though, is that the American people are going to go on being deceived.

Like all good polemics, this one raises more questions than it answers. Can the Chinese Communist Party, which now numbers some 70 million people, really be as monolithic or as cunning as he suggests? Is the American establishment really of one mind on China? Is there no possibility of the Chinese middle classes, or at least part of them, joining forces with the country's long-suffering peasants to push for greater democracy? We will have to wait and see, but, in the meantime, Mann has done a fine job of making sure that we won't do so complacently.

Copyright 2007, The Washington Post. All Rights Reserved.
 
that horse left the barn a long time ago and the barn was converted to a B&B. There's no going back!!!
 
you guys going to recomment your grandkids not go to college?
I am going to recommend that they first serve at least one stint in the Armed Forces before going to college, but my kids will know that college is in their future.

Of course, one cannot determine the choices of their kids at that age. Some of them are determined to be foolish beyond repair.
 
you guys going to recomment your grandkids not go to college?

I have already set up trust funds for my GC.

I believe in education just not an elitist about it like spinner.
Most of my pay in the military went to help put one of my sisters thru college.
Heck I did not miss it they fed me and I was not used to having money anyway.
 
Yeah, it's elitist to white trash to want your kids to go to college.
LOL
When you drive a 1990 chrysler K car I guess a 2007 Civic is an elitist vehicle. LOFL
 
you are still missing the elitist angle spinner. I drive a subaru anyway.
Did Chrysler still make K cars in 90 ? anyway I am outs here already put in 6.5 hours and made ~ $500.
 
that's all!! how do you eat on that

I Kill a cow if I get hungry ;)
But the freezers are still pretty full from the last one I split with a friend.

I forgot to include my income from investments, and stock gambling...
Then I will have another 650K soon from selling the rest of my investment property to a restaurant chain....Which is good I put 150K in trust funds for the 3 grand children...
Too much darn paperwork associated with having a nice stack of money....

I have also found out there is a quiet group of farmers with money around here. I knew some of them were not hurting, but they do not flaunt it and still associate with what you would call "trailer trash" spinner.
 
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I have already set up trust funds for my GC.

I believe in education just not an elitist about it like spinner.
Most of my pay in the military went to help put one of my sisters thru college.
Heck I did not miss it they fed me and I was not used to having money anyway.

There is a difference between education and elitism. Lots of people get educated. Elitists believe those lies.
 
I am going to recommend that they first serve at least one stint in the Armed Forces before going to college, but my kids will know that college is in their future.

Of course, one cannot determine the choices of their kids at that age. Some of them are determined to be foolish beyond repair.

What career would you advise them to go into considering the very reality of living in america prices them out of most employment markets? Is the only SURE path forward becoming an investor right off the bat? Day trading for kids?

IS this the world we've created? Are we putting to much value on the currency?
 
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The Internationalist Fascists have created an era of relatively easy abundance in america, so that we forget the inequities and power differential which is the inevitable outcome of totally unregulated economies.
 
What career would you advise them to go into considering the very reality of living in america prices them out of most employment markets? Is the only SURE path forward becoming an investor right off the bat? Day trading for kids?

IS this the world we've created? Are we putting to much value on the currency?

Yep is is ALL about greed for money now....
Unless of course you are trailer trash :)
 
China's freest period was between 1987 and 1989. After the student protests they dismissed that liberal party leader and appointed an authoritarian one.
 
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