The clockwork universe: is free will an illusion?

[goat]

Easy peazy.

It was easy peasy for government to get us to lock down in our house for a year. Covid proves the science of metaphysics with the utter submission of mass psychosis. Government can get us to do anything they want by undermining and destroying our values and beliefs by sowing fear. This didn't happen overnight, it took 2 or 3 generations to divide and conquer the people with a perpetual propaganda campaign. We have to unite as a people and fight for free will.

 

[Lightbringer]

The clockwork universe: is free will an illusion?

Why do you think you're here? Why do you even exist?

 

[Hawkeye10]

If there is no free will then there is no need for personal freedom.

Game/Set/Match....enjoy your chains chumps.

I am going my own way.

Free till the end.

 

[Lightbringer]

5 words... I think therefore I am.

Think about it.

 

[BidenPresident]

there aren't many ways to interpret the words "human beings do not exist".....

you're stupid. get lost

 

[BidenPresident]

It was easy peasy for government to get us to lock down in our house for a year. Covid proves the science of metaphysics with the utter submission of mass psychosis. Government can get us to do anything they want by undermining and destroying our values and beliefs by sowing fear. This didn't happen overnight, it took 2 or 3 generations to divide and conquer the people with a perpetual propaganda campaign. We have to unite as a people and fight for free will.

get lost troll

 

[BidenPresident]

5 words... I think therefore I am.

Think about it.

Descartes. So what?

 

[BidenPresident]

The clockwork universe: is free will an illusion?

Why do you think you're here? Why do you even exist?

I am here because my parents gave birth tom.

I exist because I am not dead.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

you're stupid. get lost

no those words are subject to interpretation......the most common understanding is "I've lost another argument and I hate you for it"........

 

[PostmodernProphet]

5 words... I think therefore I am.

Think about it.

he can't......so he isn't.......

 

[BidenPresident]

no those words are subject to interpretation......the most common understanding is "I've lost another argument and I hate you for it"........

No. You are very stupid and did not understand. But...you're a fucking boring nitwit.

 

[goat]

get lost troll

Your frontal lobe and limbic circuit is an illusion, resulting in your inability to have the free will required in an adult conversation.

 

[BidenPresident]

Your frontal lobe and limbic circuit is an illusion, resulting in your inability to have the free will required in an adult conversation.

Topic is free will. You are a scumbag troll.

 

[Lightbringer]

he can't......so he isn't.......

Nicely played.

 

[Lightbringer]

I am here because my parents gave birth tom.

I exist because I am not dead.

You might not be solidly equipped to discuss philosophy. Jus' sayin'

 

[Lightbringer]

Descartes. So what?

Lol...really?

I'll tell you so what, I now know for sure that you never took anything beyond an entry level course in Philosophy in college.

Stick with Kant and Rand ignoramus.

 

[BidenPresident]

Lol...really?

I'll tell you so what, I now know for sure that you never took anything beyond an entry level course in Philosophy in college

Tells me how fucking stupid you are.

 

[Lightbringer]

Tells me how fucking stupid you are.

Stick with Kant and Rand. One of them is entry level and the other wasn't a philosopher at all.

 

[BidenPresident]

Stick with Kant and Rand. One of them is entry level and the other wasn't a philosopher at all.

You are a moron. I will ban you from my threads.

 

[Cypress]

Don't worry about the word. It's some kind of a metaphor. In other words, Einstein believed that we have no free well and the universe is deterministic. Quantum Mechanics challenged that belief.

Einstein thought the universe is deterministic, but I do not recall him claiming free will does not exist.

In fact, I am not even sure free will versus determinism is even the right question.

We view free will through the prism of cause and effect, through our conscious perception of the arrow of time. Our phenomenological experience of time is that the present is reality, the past is memory, the future is undetermined.

The universe does not care about our limited phenomenological conscious experience of time. Reality for the universe exists simultaneously in the past, present, and future.

Even if the laws of physics imply all future and all past events are known, and reality is comprised of past, future, and present simultaneously, it does not even necessarily mean free will and determinism are at odds.

That is to say, even if the Universe, if God, if Brahma, if the Dao know what is going to happen, it does not mean we did not freely make those choices ourselves.