The latest stupidity with EV's Dodge pick up with V6 onboard charger

[Into the Night]

Global EV Sales for 2023 H1. Global EV sales continue strong. A total of 6 million new Battery Electric Vehicles (BEV) and Plug-in Hybrids (PHEV) were delivered during the first half of 2023, an increase of +40 %. 4,27 million were pure electric BEVs and 1,76 million were PHEVs.

More made up shit. Special pleading fallacy. Less than 1% of the cars on the roads are EVs.

 

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There must have been instructions sent out by rightwing media just in the past six months ordering MAGA morons to complain about EVs.

You know that left to their own devices, MAGA morons would have never independently come with the idea to screech continuously about EVs

It is YOU that takes orders blindly from your leaders. I don't have to. I simply point out the problems with the EV (and there are a lot of them). I also point out the heavy subsidies for EVs (communism) and the ludicrous mandates for them (fascism).

 

[Into the Night]

Since you love gasoline so much, why don't you pour yourself a glass full and drink it?

I'll put it in the fuel tank, thanks.
You can keep your lithium pills.

 

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Oh.. it's a plug in hybrid!!

Yup. A Prius in a truck, complete with all the lousy gas mileage of any hybrid.

ROFLMAO. Do you know about the Chevy Volt?

Yup. A piece of shit. Hey, it's not only a Chevy, it's an ELECTRIC Chevy! That's the company that can't seem to handle electrical devices on their cars at all well! It sports short range, high expenses, and low reliability.

About the only think Chevy gets right at all is their gasoline and diesel trucks.

Why does Chevy like using wacky bolt heads? They can't even be consistent with THAT!

 

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Yes, it's a hybrid. That is a step backwards towards a full ICE vehicle rather than a zero-emissions EV like places like California are demanding you drive with no exceptions.

That truck won't be legal in California!

 

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The only advantage to a hybrid is lower emissions. If that is something you are concerned about, then buy one. If not, then it is an irrelevant advantage.

Not an advantage.

* You are hauling around TWO power plants, along with their weight and complexity, AND the battery back on top of that! Mileage suffers because of it, meaning you have to burn more fuel. It's the old F=mA thing again.
* The 'emissions' is carbon dioxide and water. Neither is a pollutant.

 

[Into the Night]

LOL.
So now you are arguing that if we can't score a touchdown then we shouldn't try to kick a field goal.

By the way, the majority of the US isn't California and your claims about California are wrong as well.

Trying to deny what King Newsom is doing, eh? Sorry. Won't work.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

How is not wrong about California?

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/25/1119...an-sales-of-new-gasoline-powered-cars-by-2035

LOL.. I wonder what year you think it is now.

 

[Yakuda]

LOL.. I wonder what year you think it is now.

You said California isn't banning ICE vehicles. You're wrong. All you had to say was, "I was wrong".

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

You said California isn't banning ICE vehicles. You're wrong. All you had to say was, "I was wrong".

Can anyone buy an ICE vehicle in California today?
I don't think I am the one that is wrong.

 

[Yakuda]

Can anyone buy an ICE vehicle in California today?
I don't think I am the one that is wrong.

You said California didn't ban ICEs. You're wrong.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

You said California didn't ban ICEs. You're wrong.

LOL. Can anyone buy an ICE car in California today? Yes/no?

 

[Yakuda]

LOL. Can anyone buy an ICE car in California today? Yes/no?

Yes. Has California banned the same of ICEs? Yes. You're STILL wrong

 

[Walt]

The latest stupidity with EV's Dodge pick up with V6 onboard charger

That is called a hybrid, not a EV. Hybrids have a good history of working well in many applications similar to pickup trucks. They have fantastic torque, great fuel efficiency, and are very good at towing and getting unstuck. Almost all trains sold today are either EV's or hybrids. The best ice breaking ships are EV's or hybrids.

Yep folks, you can't make stuff like this up nobody would believe it. But it's true.

Much like hybrid diesel electric trains are real. But you can make this stuff up. Decades of engineers have worked hard to make this stuff up.

Now, for those of us who aren't stupid, why not just buy the V6 gasoline version and ditch the extra complexity and weight of the generator, battery pack, and electric drive system...?

You have a choice between an electric drive system, or a mechanical drive system. There is such a strong argument for an electric drive system, that almost all trains have them. It is more simple than a mechanical drive system. There are much less gears and shafts and stuff. That is why almost all trains have gone to the electric drive system.

How are you not getting this?

 

[T. A. Gardner]

That is called a hybrid, not a EV. Hybrids have a good history of working well in many applications similar to pickup trucks. They have fantastic torque, great fuel efficiency, and are very good at towing and getting unstuck. Almost all trains sold today are either EV's or hybrids. The best ice breaking ships are EV's or hybrids.



Much like hybrid diesel electric trains are real. But you can make this stuff up. Decades of engineers have worked hard to make this stuff up.



You have a choice between an electric drive system, or a mechanical drive system. There is such a strong argument for an electric drive system, that almost all trains have them. It is more simple than a mechanical drive system. There are much less gears and shafts and stuff. That is why almost all trains have gone to the electric drive system.

How are you not getting this?

Diesel electric locomotives are not "hybrids." They have no batteries. They are electric locomotives that use a diesel engine as the prime mover for the generator supplying the drive motors power.

 

[Walt]

Yup. A Prius in a truck, complete with all the lousy gas mileage of any hybrid.

Hybrids get very good gas mileage.

 

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Can anyone buy an ICE vehicle in California today?
I don't think I am the one that is wrong.

For now. California is banning ICE vehicles and ICE tools.

 

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That is called a hybrid, not a EV.

That's what I said.

Hybrids have a good history of working well in many applications similar to pickup trucks.

No, they don't.

They have fantastic torque, great fuel efficiency, and are very good at towing and getting unstuck.

Their fuel efficiency sucks. You are carrying around TWO power plants for the use of ONE.

Almost all trains sold today are either EV's or hybrids.

They are neither.

The best ice breaking ships are EV's or hybrids.

They are neither.

Much like hybrid diesel electric trains are real.

The diesel electric locomotive is not a hybrid.

But you can make this stuff up. Decades of engineers have worked hard to make this stuff up.

And you don't understand any of it.

You have a choice between an electric drive system, or a mechanical drive system.

An electric drive system IS a mechanical drive system.

There is such a strong argument for an electric drive system, that almost all trains have them. It is more simple than a mechanical drive system. There are much less gears and shafts and stuff. That is why almost all trains have gone to the electric drive system.

Obviously have no idea how many shafts are on trains. Literally hundreds of them.

How are you not getting this?

You are describing yourself.

Hybrids are ICE vehicles just like any ICE vehicle. The only difference is poorer mileage due to excess weight.

 

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Hybrids get very good gas mileage.

Blatant lie. TANSTAAFL. You can't create energy out of nothing.