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Truthmatters
EDITORIAL
Deadly, Intentional Ignorance on Guns
The Bush administration has blocked collecting data on gun sales and crime. Now Congress wants to go even further.
September 3, 2006




TWO YEARS AGO THIS MONTH, the federal ban on assault weapons expired. Since then, sales of such weapons have almost certainly increased, and the number of crimes in which they have been used has undoubtedly risen. Unfortunately, there's no way to know for sure. That's because the public and law enforcement agencies no longer have access to information they could routinely get just a few years ago.


A decade ago, the federal government was beginning to make some progress in making information about crime and guns more widely available. During the Clinton administration, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms started analyzing its vast database for the first time and in 2000 released its "Commerce in Firearms" report. This report — which was supposed to be issued annually — was full of information about gun sales as well as sales patterns of weapons used to commit crimes.

Armed with that information, federal and local law enforcement began cracking down on suspect dealers and shifting more resources to areas with disproportionally high levels of gun crimes. The federal government also began collecting information from 40 cities nationwide about their gun crimes and looking for helpful patterns in the data.

Today, such information is no longer available. In 2003, federal lawmakers slipped in a provision to an appropriations bill that bars the ATF from spending money to analyze its gun-crime database or making any data available to the public. The federal government also has stopped collecting cities' gun-crime data.

Congress is now intent on going a step further. This month, it's expected to vote on a package of bills that would make it harder to track other kinds of information. One would bar the federal government from releasing gun-crime data of any kind. Another would make it a felony for a law enforcement agency to share information about gun data with another jurisdiction. (This would make it a crime for a police officer in Los Angeles who wanted to pass along a tip about a gun crime to police in Long Beach.)

The gun industry says this kind of information has no value to the public at large and that law enforcement agencies could use it to harass dealers. That's nonsense. What they're probably worried about is that such information could show how to make gun-control laws more effective.
 
Please explain to me why this was done IT makes NO SENSE!

the only people they were using the information this to prosicute were people using guns illegally!
 
Please explain to me why this was done IT makes NO SENSE!

the only people they were using the information this to prosicute were people using guns illegally!

Well it does beg for a answer here Desh, why is it that there is not any prosecution going on for the ones using them legally?
 
A decade ago, the federal government was beginning to make some progress in making information about crime and guns more widely available. During the Clinton administration, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms started analyzing its vast database for the first time and in 2000 released its "Commerce in Firearms" report. This report — which was supposed to be issued annually — was full of information about gun sales as well as sales patterns of weapons used to commit crimes.


They are still collecting the Data its just know the cops can be prosicuted for sharing information about gun statistics and you and I cant see ANY of the studies.

WHAT is the reason for this?????
 
I remember reading statisitcs during that time period that more people died from what was termed mechanical ingestion (choking) than from gun shot wounds.
What is it that you are afraid that you are missing out on?
 
The ban was on certain cosmetic assault weapons, not on all of them. This is a paper tiger and definitely a "scare tactic"...
 
This is a story from months ago, they are no longer making this one report available because the informantion is availabe from other sources..Like the FBI.
 
This month, it's expected to vote on a package of bills that would make it harder to track other kinds of information. One would bar the federal government from releasing gun-crime data of any kind. Another would make it a felony for a law enforcement agency to share information about gun data with another jurisdiction. (This would make it a crime for a police officer in Los Angeles who wanted to pass along a tip about a gun crime to police in Long Beach.)
 
When she doesn't link it means it is some blogspot she's ashamed of... She'll say, "You all would just discount it because of the source!"...
 
Show me were this comes from, where is the bill? A cut and paste just won't do. How about some facts? Do you have any or as usual just making crap up.
 
Give one example of where I made something up yopu fucking lying piece of shit?

You seem to forget your own reputation
 
I don't know who you are calling a piece of shit. But you post is crap.

This is all opinion and no facts. Says Bush blocked something and not one place did it show he blocked anything. It refers to a bill before congress, but doesn't mention what bill it is. It assumes it will pass. Guess they forget these things are voted on. It is just distortion and lies without any merit from this article.
 
Sorry Thomas won't link to a search.so here is the list

http://thomas.loc.gov/home/c109query.html

>>>Listing of 20 bills containing your phrase (or variants of its words) in the same order.

1 . Second Amendment Protection Act of 2005 (Introduced in House)[H.R.3436.IH]
2 . Second Amendment Protection Act of 2005 (Introduced in Senate)[S.1488.IS]
3 . 50 Caliber Sniper Rifle Reduction Act (Introduced in House)[H.R.654.IH]
4 . Crackdown on Deadbeat Dealers Act of 2005 (Introduced in House)[H.R.4390.IH]
5 . Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (Placed on Calendar in Senate)[S.397.PCS]
6 . District of Columbia Personal Protection Act (Introduced in House)[H.R.1288.IH]
7 . District of Columbia Personal Protection Act (Introduced in Senate)[S.1082.IS]
8 . Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (Introduced in House)[H.R.800.IH]
9 . Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (Reported in House)[H.R.800.RH]
10 . Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (Enrolled as Agreed to or Passed by Both House and Senate)[S.397.ENR]
11 . Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (Engrossed as Agreed to or Passed by Senate)[S.397.ES]
12 . Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2006 (Reported in House)[H.R.3010.RH]
13 . Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2006 (Referred to Senate Committee after being Received from House)[H.R.3010.RFS]
14 . Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2006 (Engrossed as Agreed to or Passed by House)[H.R.3010.EH]
15 . Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2007 (Reported in House)[H.R.5647.RH]
16 . Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2006 (Reported in Senate)[H.R.3010.RS]
17 . Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2006 (Enrolled as Agreed to or Passed by Both House and Senate)[H.R.3010.ENR]
18 . Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2007 (Placed on Calendar in Senate)[S.3708.PCS]
19 . Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2006 (Public Print)[H.R.3010.PP]
20 . Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2006 (Engrossed Amendment as Agreed to by Senate)[H.R.3010.EAS]



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Listing of 51 bills containing all your search words (or their variants) but not near each other.

21 . Child Gun Safety and Gun Access Prevention Act of 2005 (Introduced in House)[H.R.246.IH]
22 . Anti-Gun Trafficking Penalties Enhancement Act of 2006 (Introduced in Senate)[S.2629.IS]
23 . Domestic Violence Victim Protection Act (Introduced in House)[H.R.3594.IH]
24 . Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2005 (Introduced in Senate)[S.620.IS]
25 . Springfield Armory National Historic Site, Massachusetts Act of 2005. (Introduced in House)[H.R.4376.IH]
26 . Springfield Armory National Historic Site, Massachusetts Act of 2006 (Referred to Senate Committee after being Received from House)[H.R.4376.RFS]
27 . Springfield Armory National Historic Site, Massachusetts Act of 2006 (Engrossed as Agreed to or Passed by House)[H.R.4376.EH]
28 . Springfield Armory National Historic Site, Massachusetts Act of 2006 (Reported in House)[H.R.4376.RH]
29 . PROTECTION Act (Introduced in Senate)[S.945.IS]
30 . Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives condemning the actions of the Gretna Police Department, the Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Department and all officers under their command... (Introduced in House)[H.RES.530.IH]
31 . Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (BATFE) Modernization and Reform Act of 2006 (Introduced in House)[H.R.5092.IH]
32 . Whereas the foundation for the Israeli-Palestinian peace process was Palestinian recognition of Israel's right to exist and a solemn obligation to end terrorism and violence; (Engrossed as Agreed to or Passed by House)[H.RES.575.EH]
33 . Providing that Hamas and other terrorist organizations should not participate in elections held by the Palestinian Authority, and for other purposes. (Introduced in House)[H.RES.575.IH]
34 . Nuclear Safety and Security Act of 2005 (Reported in Senate)[S.864.RS]
35 . Condemning the Democratic People's Republic of Korea for the abductions and continued captivity of citizens of the Republic of Korea and Japan as acts of terrorism and gross violations... (Engrossed as Agreed to or Passed by House)[H.CON.RES.168.EH]
36 . Department of Peace and Nonviolence Act (Introduced in Senate)[S.1756.IS]
37 . Condemning the Democratic People's Republic of Korea for the abductions and continued captivity of citizens of the Republic of Korea and Japan as acts of terrorism and gross violations... (Referred to Senate Committee after being Received from House)[H.CON.RES.168.RFS]
38 . Omnibus Nonproliferation and Anti-Nuclear Terrorism Act of 2005 (Introduced in House)[H.R.665.IH]
39 . Department of Peace and Nonviolence Act (Introduced in House)[H.R.3760.IH]
40 . Marine Mammal Protection Act Amendments of 2006 (Engrossed as Agreed to or Passed by House)[H.R.4075.EH]
41 . Marine Mammal Protection Act Amendments of 2006 (Referred to Senate Committee after being Received from House)[H.R.4075.RFS]
42 . Burt Lake Band of Ottawa and Chippewa Indians Reaffirmation Act (Introduced in House)[H.R.4802.IH]
43 . Secure Access to Justice and Court Protection Act of 2005 (Referred to Senate Committee after being Received from House)[H.R.1751.RFS]
44 . Secure Access to Justice and Court Protection Act of 2005 (Engrossed as Agreed to or Passed by House)[H.R.1751.EH]
45 . Secure Access to Justice and Court Protection Act of 2005 (Reported in House)[H.R.1751.RH]
46 . NICS Improvement Act of 2005 (Introduced in House)[H.R.1415.IH]
47 . Gang Deterrence and Community Protection Act of 2005 (Reported in House)[H.R.1279.RH]
48 . Gang Deterrence and Community Protection Act of 2005 (Introduced in House)[H.R.1279.IH]
49 . Gang Deterrence and Community Protection Act of 2005 (Referred to Senate Committee after being Received from House)[H.R.1279.RFS]
50 . Gang Deterrence and Community Protection Act of 2005 (Engrossed as Agreed to or Passed by House)[H.R.1279.EH]
51 . Targeting Terrorists More Effectively Act of 2005 (Introduced in Senate)[S.12.IS]
52 . Children's Safety and Violent Crime Reduction Act of 2005 (Introduced in House)[H.R.4472.IH]
53 . Gang Prevention and Effective Deterrence Act of 2005 (Introduced in House)[H.R.970.IH]
54 . Gang Prevention and Effective Deterrence Act of 2005 (Introduced in Senate)[S.155.IS]
55 . Children's Safety and Violent Crime Reduction Act of 2006 (Engrossed as Agreed to or Passed by House)[H.R.4472.EH]
56 . Children's Safety and Violent Crime Reduction Act of 2006 (Placed on Calendar in Senate)[H.R.4472.PCS]
57 . Foreign Relations Authorization Act, Fiscal Years 2006 and 2007 (Reported in House)[H.R.2601.RH]
58 . Foreign Relations Authorization Act, Fiscal Years 2006 and 2007 (Engrossed as Agreed to or Passed by House)[H.R.2601.EH]
59 . Foreign Relations Authorization Act, Fiscal Years 2006 and 2007 (Placed on Calendar in Senate)[H.R.2601.PCS]
60 . Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 2006 (Engrossed Amendment as Agreed to by Senate)[H.R.2863.EAS]
61 . Foreign Affairs Authorization Act, Fiscal Years 2006 and 2007 (Reported in Senate)[S.600.RS]
62 . Foreign Affairs Authorization Act, Fiscal Years 2006 and 2007 (Placed on Calendar in Senate)[S.600.PCS]
63 . Department of Defense Appropriations Act, 2006 (Public Print)[H.R.2863.PP]
64 . Ensuring Implementation of the 9/11 Commission Report Act (Introduced in Senate)[S.3456.IS]
65 . Ensuring Implementation of the 9/11 Commission Report Act (Introduced in House)[H.R.5017.IH]
66 . Foreign Relations Authorization Act, Fiscal Years 2006 and 2007 (Introduced in House)[H.R.2601.IH]
67 . Department of Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2006 (Engrossed as Agreed to or Passed by Senate)[S.1043.ES]
68 . Energy Policy Act of 2005 (Enrolled as Agreed to or Passed by Both House and Senate)[H.R.6.ENR]
69 . National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2006 (Engrossed as Agreed to or Passed by Senate)[S.1042.ES]
70 . National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2006 (Public Print)[S.1042.PP]
71 . National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2006 (Engrossed Amendment as Agreed to by Senate)[H.R.1815.EAS]
 
In 2003, federal lawmakers slipped in a provision to an appropriations bill that bars the ATF from spending money to analyze its gun-crime database or making any data available to the public. The federal government also has stopped collecting cities' gun-crime data.

Congress is now intent on going a step further. This month, it's expected to vote on a package of bills that would make it harder to track other kinds of information. One would bar the federal government from releasing gun-crime data of any kind. Another would make it a felony for a law enforcement agency to share information about gun data with another jurisdiction. (This would make it a crime for a police officer in Los Angeles who wanted to pass along a tip about a gun crime to police in Long Beach.)
 
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