"The true metaphysics of the square root negative 1 remains elusive." - C.F. Gauss

[Into the Night]

Right, if you don't even know what questions to ask, you will never know what you don't know.

Random phrase. Cliche fallacy. No apparent coherency.

 

[Into the Night]

Don't click on high school math and popular science journalism threads if they are beyond your interest or mental abilities.

Your other imaginary grievances and emotional outbursts are of no concern to me.

Random phrases. No apparent coherency. Attempted insults.....?

 

[Into the Night]

Perry has rage and resentment issues, and nurses imaginary grievances.


It is remarkable how many message board posters holler about the superiority of STEM collage majors, but then get angry, befuddled, and intimidated by high school math.



Sidebar: The author Yevgeny Zamyatin used imaginary numbers as a literary device in his dystopian novel 'We'

"Now I no longer live in our clear, rational world; I live in the ancient nightmare world, the world of square roots of minus one."

Random phrases. No apparent coherency.

 

[Into the Night]

My knowledge? It's an article written by someone else. I presented an article written by a science publication that caters to science enthusiasts and the intelligent layperson.

All that is required to get the gist of the article is high school math, and high school physics.

If high school math and science are beyond your interest and mental capability, there are plenty of threads on Trump-bashing or transgender athletes you can lurk.


I don't think you're have a 'good time' when you follow me around Perry. Your always resentful and angry, that doesn't sound like you're having fun.

Random phrases. No apparent coherency.

 

[Cypress]

it's patently obvious you don't know the first fucking thing about ANY of this stuff.

^^^ Perry is getting angry and is on the verge of screaming at me in ALL CAPS again.

Yes, Perry, everything I know about Quatum mechanics is from reading textbooks and listening to experts.

If you went to college you would know that's how education and knowledge are acquired.
I've never had a job where I had to solve Schroedinger's equation, I've never had to calculate the mass and spin of an electronic, I've never conducted quantum laboratory experiments. I only have a working knowledge in various theories of the quantum framework. That's all I want.

The remarkable thing is that you believe that is required to discuss and learn about quantum mechanics.

 

[Cypress]

Every Leap Goes into an Extra Dimension

From the very beginning, explanations of Postclassical phenomena required, but refused to consider, the existence of a fourth spatial dimension in order to conform to rationality. This imaginary number would be real in that underlying dimension.

Interesting. That idea of the reality of i in a fourth dimension is not something I have heard before.

 

[Cypress]

Ok then. Splain to me how I can utilize the OP to a real life application.
Because I had no problem applying my STEM degree to a useful and profitable business.

You won't need i for dentistry.

It's used in physics to simplify equations involving waveforms and sinusoidal functions.

The article I posted is more of a philosophical question about abstract mathematics.

But if all you are interested is practical applications to benefit your life you really shouldn't be clicking on the philosophy thread.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

You won't need i for dentistry.

It's used in physics to simplify equations involving waveforms and sinusoidal functions.

But if all you are interested is practical applications to benefit your life you really shouldn't be clicking on the philosophy thread.

About the only time I use it is as j in doing impedance calculations, and that's gotten rare since I retired. It's important if you are wiring something like a large welding shop for example.

 

[Into the Night]

When we deal with antenna impedance, we get complex numbers like this: 5-j10 or 50 + j10, the J in this case is an imaginary number, and this is an example of mathematical convenience like you posted.

A convenience and nothing more. Antenna impedance CAN be calculated even without the use of complex numbers.

Cypress is trying to attach some Magickal Physics to complex numbers, and is also trying to attach Magickal properties to quantum physics.

He's post this shit to 'thound thmart'.
He googles some wacky shit, runs it through his buzzword generator, and creates threads like this to boost his ego.

 

[Daylight63]

^^^ Perry is getting angry and is on the verge of screaming at me in ALL CAPS again.

No one on here actually thinks you know anything about QM.

LOL. It's so funny to think you are fooling anyone.

Yes, Perry, everything I know about Quatum mechanics is from reading textbooks and listening to experts.

LOL. So you don't really know much. Got it. It would be more impressive if you had used QM at any point in your career.

But gas station attendants seldom need it.

If you went to college you would know that's how education and knowledge are acquired.

I know enough to know you are DESPERATE for people to think you are smart.

I've never had a job

Understood.

where I had to solve Schroedinger's equation

And you think that's all of QM? Interesting. Thanks for your confession that you don't really know QM.

, I've never had to calculate the mass and spin of an electronic, I've never conducted quantum laboratory experiments. I only have a working knowledge in various theories of the quantum framework. That's all I want.

No, that's all you can handle. There's a difference.

The remarkable thing is that you believe that is required to discuss and learn about quantum mechanics.

Again, rich coming from you you can't handle anyone knowing more than you do.

LOL.

You are funny.

 

[Into the Night]

So you believe posters on JPP should post their own original experiments and theories on quantum physics?

Perry, most of what we know we don’t know directly. We gain such knowledge through testimony, we read textbooks, listen to teachers and subject matter experts, we take classes, we read articles. None of us perform experiments or see the evidence and data directly for ourselves. It's hubris for you to believe JPP posters are going to be publishing their own original quantum mechanics theories.

Quantum physics isn't Magick, Sybil.

 

[Into the Night]

That's what I've heard, that for the most part complex numbers and i are a mathematical convenience, even a shortcut.
This article seems to be saying in the quantum world you literally have to use imaginary numbers, and you can't substitute real numbers in their place.

No complex numbers are required for quantum physics.

 

[Daylight63]

you really shouldn't be clicking on the philosophy thread.

Irony.

 

[Daylight63]

It's used in physics to simplify equations involving waveforms and sinusoidal functions.

In your own words (ie no googling!) tell us what the sentence means and give us an example.

(You won't because you can't and we all know it, but I want you to say it out loud)

 

[Into the Night]

Is it because impedance involves a wave carrier?

No.

I've heard that complex numbers are the easiest way to represent sinusoidal functions.

Not a sinusoidal function.

A sine wave can be synthesized using a Taylor series. It can also be synthesized as the simple ratio of two sides of a right triangle as it's angle rotates about the focal point. No complex numbers required.

 

[Daylight63]

Interesting. That idea of the reality of i in a fourth dimension is not something I have heard before.

OMG, make it stop!

No one believes you can do 4 dimensional geometry. Gah!

 

[Into the Night]

j is used in electrical and electronic engineering calculations as a substitute for i because the later is used as the symbol for current and that would confuse things if it were used.

If it's used at all!

 

[Into the Night]

Every Leap Goes into an Extra Dimension

From the very beginning, explanations of Postclassical phenomena required, but refused to consider, the existence of a fourth spatial dimension in order to conform to rationality. This imaginary number would be real in that underlying dimension.

A dimension is not an imaginary number.

 

[Into the Night]

^^^ Perry is getting angry and is on the verge of screaming at me in ALL CAPS again.

Yes, Perry, everything I know about Quatum mechanics is from reading textbooks and listening to experts.

So you know nothing. You don't even know how to spell it!

If you went to college you would know that's how education and knowledge are acquired.

Not in today's colleges! They've become indoctrination centers. It's actually easier now to self study in most cases!

I've never had a job where I had to solve Schroedinger's equation, I've never had to calculate the mass and spin of an electronic,

Electronic has no mass or spin.

I've never conducted quantum laboratory experiments.

There aren't any, moron.

I only have a working knowledge in various theories of the quantum framework. That's all I want.

You know nothing. You don't even know what quantum mechanics does!

The remarkable thing is that you believe that is required to discuss and learn about quantum mechanics.

He never said any such thing, Sybil.

 

[Cypress]

About the only time I use it is as j in doing impedance calculations, and that's gotten rare since I retired. It's important if you are wiring something like a large welding shop for example.

That's what Trumpet posted, it's used in impedance calculations, which was news to me but seems to make sense because wave carrier physics must be involved in impedance.