They Lied About Afghanistan. They Lied About Iraq. And They Are Lying About Ukraine.

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Found an article with the same as this thread over at Scheerpost recently. It was published on Sunday, thought some others might find it interesting as well and perhaps worthy of a constructive comment or 2. I don't agree with 2 of Chris Hedges' assertions:

The first is his assertion that Russia's military intervention in Ukraine was a war crime. The second is that Hedges is mistaken with his claim that Ukrainian congress revoked official languages other than Ukrainian 3 days after Euromaidan. They certainly tried, but were vetoed by the guy who temporarily replaced Viktor Yanukovych at the time. The forces who tried then were successful a few years later though. Anyway, quoting from Hedges' article:

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July 2, 2023

The U.S. public has been conned, once again, into pouring billions into another endless war.

By Chris Hedges / Original to ScheerPost

The playbook the pimps of war use to lure us into one military fiasco after another, including Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and now Ukraine, does not change. Freedom and democracy are threatened. Evil must be vanquished. Human rights must be protected. The fate of Europe and NATO, along with a “rules based international order” is at stake. Victory is assured.

The results are also the same. The justifications and narratives are exposed as lies. The cheery prognosis is false. Those on whose behalf we are supposedly fighting are as venal as those we are fighting against.

The Russian invasion of Ukraine was a war crime, although one that was provoked by NATO expansion and by the United States backing of the 2014 “Maidan” coup which ousted the democratically elected Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych. Yanukovych wanted economic integration with the European Union, but not at the expense of economic and political ties with Russia. The war will only be solved through negotiations that allow ethnic Russians in Ukraine to have autonomy and Moscow’s protection, as well as Ukrainian neutrality, which means the country cannot join NATO. The longer these negotiations are delayed the more Ukrainians will suffer and die. Their cities and infrastructure will continue to be pounded into rubble.

But this proxy war in Ukraine is designed to serve U.S. interests. It enriches the weapons manufacturers, weakens the Russian military and isolates Russia from Europe. What happens to Ukraine is irrelevant.


[snip]

Once the truth about these endless wars seeps into public consciousness, the media, which slavishly promotes these conflicts, drastically reduces coverage. The military debacles, as in Iraq and Afghanistan, continue largely out of view. By the time the U.S. concedes defeat, most barely remember that these wars are being fought.

The pimps of war who orchestrate these military fiascos migrate from administration to administration. Between posts they are ensconced in think tanks — Project for the New American Century, American Enterprise Institute, Foreign Policy Initiative, Institute for the Study of War, The Atlantic Council and The Brookings Institution — funded by corporations and the war industry. Once the Ukraine war comes to its inevitable conclusion, these Dr. Strangeloves will seek to ignite a war with China. The U.S. Navy and military are already menacing and encircling China. God help us if we don’t stop them.

These pimps of war con us into one conflict after another with flattering narratives that paint us as the world’s saviors. They don’t even have to be innovative. The rhetoric is lifted from the old playbook. We naively swallow the bait and embrace the flag — this time blue and yellow — to become unwitting agents in our self-immolation.

Since the end of the Second World War, the government has spent between 45 to 90 percent of the federal budget on past, current and future military operations. It is the largest sustained activity of the U.S. government. It has stopped mattering — at least to the pimps of war — whether these wars are rational or prudent. The war industry metastasizes within the bowels of the American empire to hollow it out from the inside. The U.S. is reviled abroad, drowning in debt, has an impoverished working class and is burdened with a decayed infrastructure as well as shoddy social services.

Wasn’t the Russian military — because of poor morale, poor generalship, outdated weapons, desertions, a lack of ammunition that supposedly forced soldiers to fight with shovels, and severe supply shortages — supposed to collapse months ago? Wasn’t Putin supposed to be driven from power? Weren’t the sanctions supposed to plunge the ruble into a death spiral? Wasn’t the severing of the Russian banking system from SWIFT, the international money transfer system, supposed to cripple the Russian economy? How is it that inflation rates in Europe and the United States are higher than in Russia despite these attacks on the Russian economy?

Wasn’t the nearly $150 billion in sophisticated military hardware, financial and humanitarian assistance pledged by the U.S., EU and 11 other countries supposed to have turned the tide of the war? How is it that perhaps a third of the tanks Germany and the U.S. provided were swiftly turned by Russian mines, artillery, anti-tank weapons, air strikes and missiles into charred hunks of metal at the start of the vaunted counter-offensive? Wasn’t this latest Ukrainian counter-offensive, which was originally known as the “spring offensive,” supposed to punch through Russia’s heavily fortified front lines and regain huge swathes of territory? How can we explain the tens of thousands of Ukrainian military casualties and the forced [twitter link in original] conscription by Ukraine’s military? Even our retired generals and former CIA, FBI, NSA and Homeland Security officials, who serve as analysts on networks such as CNN and MSNBC, can’t say the offensive has succeeded.

And what of the Ukrainian democracy we are fighting to protect? Why did the Ukrainian parliament revoke the official use of minority languages, including Russian, three days after the 2014 coup? How do we rationalize the eight years of warfare against ethnic Russians in the Donbass region before the Russian invasion in Feb. 2022? How do we explain the killing of over 14,200 people and the 1.5 million people who were displaced, before Russia’s invasion took place last year?

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A lot more in the full article:
Chris Hedges: They Lied About Afghanistan. They Lied About Iraq. And They Are Lying About Ukraine. | Scheerpost
 
This site sounds like a right wing conspiracy propaganda site, and should be taken with a grain of salt.
 
This site sounds like a right wing conspiracy propaganda site, and should be taken with a grain of salt.

What makes you think that? Honestly, I think Scheerpost actually leans more left than right. It was founded by Robert Scheer. A bit about him, courtesy of Wikipedia:

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Robert Scheer (born April 4, 1936) is an American left-wing journalist who has written for Ramparts, the Los Angeles Times, Playboy, Hustler Magazine, Truthdig, Scheerpost and other publications as well as having written many books. His column for Truthdig was nationally syndicated by Creators Syndicate in publications such as The Huffington Post and The Nation. He is a clinical professor of communications at the Annenberg School for Communication & Journalism at the University of Southern California. Scheer is the former editor in-chief for the Webby Award-winning[1] online magazine Truthdig.[2] For many years, he co-hosted the nationally syndicated political analysis radio program Left, Right & Center on National Public Radio (NPR), produced at public radio station KCRW in Santa Monica.[3] The Society of Professional Journalists awarded Scheer the 2011 Sigma Delta Chi Award for his column.[4]
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As to the author of this particular article, he's been known to criticize the far right. From his Wikipedia page:

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In his early career, Hedges worked as a freelance war correspondent in Central America for The Christian Science Monitor, NPR, and Dallas Morning News. Hedges reported for The New York Times from 1990 to 2005,[1] and served as the Times Middle East Bureau Chief and Balkan Bureau Chief during the wars in the former Yugoslavia. In 2001, Hedges contributed to The New York Times staff entry that received the 2002 Pulitzer Prize for Explanatory Reporting for the paper's coverage of global terrorism.

Hedges produced a weekly column for Truthdig for 14 years until the outlet's hiatus in 2020. His books include War Is a Force That Gives Us Meaning (2002), a finalist for the National Book Critics Circle Award for Nonfiction; American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America (2007); Death of the Liberal Class (2010); and Days of Destruction, Days of Revolt (2012), written with cartoonist Joe Sacco.

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Source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Hedges
 
There are always people or companies that profit from every war since the beginning of warfare.

That doesn’t mean it’s orchestrated however
 
There are always people or companies that profit from every war since the beginning of warfare.

That doesn’t mean it’s orchestrated however

Wars are about money. It is really that simple. That was pointed out in Roman times. Putin wants Ukraine's land, particularly their farmland. This Nazi crap is a made-up excuse to enrich Russian oligarchs. They never have enough money.
 
Wars are about money. It is really that simple. That was pointed out in Roman times. Putin wants Ukraine's land, particularly their farmland. This Nazi crap is a made-up excuse to enrich Russian oligarchs. They never have enough money.

I can’t disagree with that
 
Found an article with the same as this thread over at Scheerpost recently. It was published on Sunday, thought some others might find it interesting as well and perhaps worthy of a constructive comment or 2. I don't agree with 2 of Chris Hedges' assertions:

The first is his assertion that Russia's military intervention in Ukraine was a war crime. The second is that Hedges is mistaken with his claim that Ukrainian congress revoked official languages other than Ukrainian 3 days after Euromaidan. They certainly tried, but were vetoed by the guy who temporarily replaced Viktor Yanukovych at the time. The forces who tried then were successful a few years later though. Anyway, quoting from Hedges' article:

**
July 2, 2023

The U.S. public has been conned, once again, into pouring billions into another endless war.

By Chris Hedges / Original to ScheerPost

The playbook the pimps of war use to lure us into one military fiasco after another, including Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and now Ukraine, does not change. Freedom and democracy are threatened. Evil must be vanquished. Human rights must be protected. The fate of Europe and NATO, along with a “rules based international order” is at stake. Victory is assured.

The results are also the same. The justifications and narratives are exposed as lies. The cheery prognosis is false. Those on whose behalf we are supposedly fighting are as venal as those we are fighting against.

The Russian invasion of Ukraine was a war crime, although one that was provoked by NATO expansion and by the United States backing of the 2014 “Maidan” coup which ousted the democratically elected Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych. Yanukovych wanted economic integration with the European Union, but not at the expense of economic and political ties with Russia. The war will only be solved through negotiations that allow ethnic Russians in Ukraine to have autonomy and Moscow’s protection, as well as Ukrainian neutrality, which means the country cannot join NATO. The longer these negotiations are delayed the more Ukrainians will suffer and die. Their cities and infrastructure will continue to be pounded into rubble.

But this proxy war in Ukraine is designed to serve U.S. interests. It enriches the weapons manufacturers, weakens the Russian military and isolates Russia from Europe. What happens to Ukraine is irrelevant.


[snip]

Once the truth about these endless wars seeps into public consciousness, the media, which slavishly promotes these conflicts, drastically reduces coverage. The military debacles, as in Iraq and Afghanistan, continue largely out of view. By the time the U.S. concedes defeat, most barely remember that these wars are being fought.

The pimps of war who orchestrate these military fiascos migrate from administration to administration. Between posts they are ensconced in think tanks — Project for the New American Century, American Enterprise Institute, Foreign Policy Initiative, Institute for the Study of War, The Atlantic Council and The Brookings Institution — funded by corporations and the war industry. Once the Ukraine war comes to its inevitable conclusion, these Dr. Strangeloves will seek to ignite a war with China. The U.S. Navy and military are already menacing and encircling China. God help us if we don’t stop them.

These pimps of war con us into one conflict after another with flattering narratives that paint us as the world’s saviors. They don’t even have to be innovative. The rhetoric is lifted from the old playbook. We naively swallow the bait and embrace the flag — this time blue and yellow — to become unwitting agents in our self-immolation.

Since the end of the Second World War, the government has spent between 45 to 90 percent of the federal budget on past, current and future military operations. It is the largest sustained activity of the U.S. government. It has stopped mattering — at least to the pimps of war — whether these wars are rational or prudent. The war industry metastasizes within the bowels of the American empire to hollow it out from the inside. The U.S. is reviled abroad, drowning in debt, has an impoverished working class and is burdened with a decayed infrastructure as well as shoddy social services.

Wasn’t the Russian military — because of poor morale, poor generalship, outdated weapons, desertions, a lack of ammunition that supposedly forced soldiers to fight with shovels, and severe supply shortages — supposed to collapse months ago? Wasn’t Putin supposed to be driven from power? Weren’t the sanctions supposed to plunge the ruble into a death spiral? Wasn’t the severing of the Russian banking system from SWIFT, the international money transfer system, supposed to cripple the Russian economy? How is it that inflation rates in Europe and the United States are higher than in Russia despite these attacks on the Russian economy?

Wasn’t the nearly $150 billion in sophisticated military hardware, financial and humanitarian assistance pledged by the U.S., EU and 11 other countries supposed to have turned the tide of the war? How is it that perhaps a third of the tanks Germany and the U.S. provided were swiftly turned by Russian mines, artillery, anti-tank weapons, air strikes and missiles into charred hunks of metal at the start of the vaunted counter-offensive? Wasn’t this latest Ukrainian counter-offensive, which was originally known as the “spring offensive,” supposed to punch through Russia’s heavily fortified front lines and regain huge swathes of territory? How can we explain the tens of thousands of Ukrainian military casualties and the forced [twitter link in original] conscription by Ukraine’s military? Even our retired generals and former CIA, FBI, NSA and Homeland Security officials, who serve as analysts on networks such as CNN and MSNBC, can’t say the offensive has succeeded.

And what of the Ukrainian democracy we are fighting to protect? Why did the Ukrainian parliament revoke the official use of minority languages, including Russian, three days after the 2014 coup? How do we rationalize the eight years of warfare against ethnic Russians in the Donbass region before the Russian invasion in Feb. 2022? How do we explain the killing of over 14,200 people and the 1.5 million people who were displaced, before Russia’s invasion took place last year?

**

A lot more in the full article:
Chris Hedges: They Lied About Afghanistan. They Lied About Iraq. And They Are Lying About Ukraine. | Scheerpost

They lied about Vietnam......
 
Found an article with the same as this thread over at Scheerpost recently. It was published on Sunday, thought some others might find it interesting as well and perhaps worthy of a constructive comment or 2. I don't agree with 2 of Chris Hedges' assertions:

The first is his assertion that Russia's military intervention in Ukraine was a war crime. The second is that Hedges is mistaken with his claim that Ukrainian congress revoked official languages other than Ukrainian 3 days after Euromaidan. They certainly tried, but were vetoed by the guy who temporarily replaced Viktor Yanukovych at the time. The forces who tried then were successful a few years later though. Anyway, quoting from Hedges' article:

**
July 2, 2023

The U.S. public has been conned, once again, into pouring billions into another endless war.

By Chris Hedges / Original to ScheerPost

The playbook the pimps of war use to lure us into one military fiasco after another, including Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and now Ukraine, does not change. Freedom and democracy are threatened. Evil must be vanquished. Human rights must be protected. The fate of Europe and NATO, along with a “rules based international order” is at stake. Victory is assured.

The results are also the same. The justifications and narratives are exposed as lies. The cheery prognosis is false. Those on whose behalf we are supposedly fighting are as venal as those we are fighting against.

The Russian invasion of Ukraine was a war crime, although one that was provoked by NATO expansion and by the United States backing of the 2014 “Maidan” coup which ousted the democratically elected Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych. Yanukovych wanted economic integration with the European Union, but not at the expense of economic and political ties with Russia. The war will only be solved through negotiations that allow ethnic Russians in Ukraine to have autonomy and Moscow’s protection, as well as Ukrainian neutrality, which means the country cannot join NATO. The longer these negotiations are delayed the more Ukrainians will suffer and die. Their cities and infrastructure will continue to be pounded into rubble.

But this proxy war in Ukraine is designed to serve U.S. interests. It enriches the weapons manufacturers, weakens the Russian military and isolates Russia from Europe. What happens to Ukraine is irrelevant.


[snip]

Once the truth about these endless wars seeps into public consciousness, the media, which slavishly promotes these conflicts, drastically reduces coverage. The military debacles, as in Iraq and Afghanistan, continue largely out of view. By the time the U.S. concedes defeat, most barely remember that these wars are being fought.

The pimps of war who orchestrate these military fiascos migrate from administration to administration. Between posts they are ensconced in think tanks — Project for the New American Century, American Enterprise Institute, Foreign Policy Initiative, Institute for the Study of War, The Atlantic Council and The Brookings Institution — funded by corporations and the war industry. Once the Ukraine war comes to its inevitable conclusion, these Dr. Strangeloves will seek to ignite a war with China. The U.S. Navy and military are already menacing and encircling China. God help us if we don’t stop them.

These pimps of war con us into one conflict after another with flattering narratives that paint us as the world’s saviors. They don’t even have to be innovative. The rhetoric is lifted from the old playbook. We naively swallow the bait and embrace the flag — this time blue and yellow — to become unwitting agents in our self-immolation.

Since the end of the Second World War, the government has spent between 45 to 90 percent of the federal budget on past, current and future military operations. It is the largest sustained activity of the U.S. government. It has stopped mattering — at least to the pimps of war — whether these wars are rational or prudent. The war industry metastasizes within the bowels of the American empire to hollow it out from the inside. The U.S. is reviled abroad, drowning in debt, has an impoverished working class and is burdened with a decayed infrastructure as well as shoddy social services.

Wasn’t the Russian military — because of poor morale, poor generalship, outdated weapons, desertions, a lack of ammunition that supposedly forced soldiers to fight with shovels, and severe supply shortages — supposed to collapse months ago? Wasn’t Putin supposed to be driven from power? Weren’t the sanctions supposed to plunge the ruble into a death spiral? Wasn’t the severing of the Russian banking system from SWIFT, the international money transfer system, supposed to cripple the Russian economy? How is it that inflation rates in Europe and the United States are higher than in Russia despite these attacks on the Russian economy?

Wasn’t the nearly $150 billion in sophisticated military hardware, financial and humanitarian assistance pledged by the U.S., EU and 11 other countries supposed to have turned the tide of the war? How is it that perhaps a third of the tanks Germany and the U.S. provided were swiftly turned by Russian mines, artillery, anti-tank weapons, air strikes and missiles into charred hunks of metal at the start of the vaunted counter-offensive? Wasn’t this latest Ukrainian counter-offensive, which was originally known as the “spring offensive,” supposed to punch through Russia’s heavily fortified front lines and regain huge swathes of territory? How can we explain the tens of thousands of Ukrainian military casualties and the forced [twitter link in original] conscription by Ukraine’s military? Even our retired generals and former CIA, FBI, NSA and Homeland Security officials, who serve as analysts on networks such as CNN and MSNBC, can’t say the offensive has succeeded.

And what of the Ukrainian democracy we are fighting to protect? Why did the Ukrainian parliament revoke the official use of minority languages, including Russian, three days after the 2014 coup? How do we rationalize the eight years of warfare against ethnic Russians in the Donbass region before the Russian invasion in Feb. 2022? How do we explain the killing of over 14,200 people and the 1.5 million people who were displaced, before Russia’s invasion took place last year?

**

A lot more in the full article:
Chris Hedges: They Lied About Afghanistan. They Lied About Iraq. And They Are Lying About Ukraine. | Scheerpost

Are you posting from Moscow or saint petersburg /Leningrad?
 
Wars are about money. It is really that simple. That was pointed out in Roman times.

I can certainly agree that wars are -frequently- about money, at least for one side of the equation. I certainly believe that the government in Kyiv and western powers wanted to take back the Donbass republics and Crimea for monetary gain. In contrast to their goals, I think that Russia's action was mainly about its national security as well as to protect ethnic Russians in the Donbass republics.

Putin wants Ukraine's land, particularly their farmland. This Nazi crap is a made-up excuse to enrich Russian oligarchs.

I find that a lot of people like to confuse the issue by saying Nazi instead of Neo Nazis. Western Ukraine's respect and even reverence to Bandera, who helped the Nazis during World War II is very well established. However, world war II is a while ago and what is strong in Ukraine today is its ties to Neo Nazis, wherein hatred of jews has been largely replaced by hatred for Russians. Even the mainstream media grudgingly acknowledges it. Below are some fairly recent stories concerning the issue:

Ukraine's Nazi problem is real, even if Putin's 'denazification' claim isn't | NCB News

A far-right battalion has a key role in Ukraine’s resistance. Its neo-Nazi history has been exploited by Putin | CNN

For Ukraine Military, Far-Right Russian Volunteers Make for Worrisome Allies | The New York Times
 
Found an article with the same as this thread over at Scheerpost recently. It was published on Sunday, thought some others might find it interesting as well and perhaps worthy of a constructive comment or 2. I don't agree with 2 of Chris Hedges' assertions:

The first is his assertion that Russia's military intervention in Ukraine was a war crime. The second is that Hedges is mistaken with his claim that Ukrainian congress revoked official languages other than Ukrainian 3 days after Euromaidan. They certainly tried, but were vetoed by the guy who temporarily replaced Viktor Yanukovych at the time. The forces who tried then were successful a few years later though. Anyway, quoting from Hedges' article:

**
July 2, 2023

The U.S. public has been conned, once again, into pouring billions into another endless war.

By Chris Hedges / Original to ScheerPost

The playbook the pimps of war use to lure us into one military fiasco after another, including Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and now Ukraine, does not change. Freedom and democracy are threatened. Evil must be vanquished. Human rights must be protected. The fate of Europe and NATO, along with a “rules based international order” is at stake. Victory is assured.

The results are also the same. The justifications and narratives are exposed as lies. The cheery prognosis is false. Those on whose behalf we are supposedly fighting are as venal as those we are fighting against.

The Russian invasion of Ukraine was a war crime, although one that was provoked by NATO expansion and by the United States backing of the 2014 “Maidan” coup which ousted the democratically elected Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych. Yanukovych wanted economic integration with the European Union, but not at the expense of economic and political ties with Russia. The war will only be solved through negotiations that allow ethnic Russians in Ukraine to have autonomy and Moscow’s protection, as well as Ukrainian neutrality, which means the country cannot join NATO. The longer these negotiations are delayed the more Ukrainians will suffer and die. Their cities and infrastructure will continue to be pounded into rubble.

But this proxy war in Ukraine is designed to serve U.S. interests. It enriches the weapons manufacturers, weakens the Russian military and isolates Russia from Europe. What happens to Ukraine is irrelevant.


[snip]

Once the truth about these endless wars seeps into public consciousness, the media, which slavishly promotes these conflicts, drastically reduces coverage. The military debacles, as in Iraq and Afghanistan, continue largely out of view. By the time the U.S. concedes defeat, most barely remember that these wars are being fought.

The pimps of war who orchestrate these military fiascos migrate from administration to administration. Between posts they are ensconced in think tanks — Project for the New American Century, American Enterprise Institute, Foreign Policy Initiative, Institute for the Study of War, The Atlantic Council and The Brookings Institution — funded by corporations and the war industry. Once the Ukraine war comes to its inevitable conclusion, these Dr. Strangeloves will seek to ignite a war with China. The U.S. Navy and military are already menacing and encircling China. God help us if we don’t stop them.

These pimps of war con us into one conflict after another with flattering narratives that paint us as the world’s saviors. They don’t even have to be innovative. The rhetoric is lifted from the old playbook. We naively swallow the bait and embrace the flag — this time blue and yellow — to become unwitting agents in our self-immolation.

Since the end of the Second World War, the government has spent between 45 to 90 percent of the federal budget on past, current and future military operations. It is the largest sustained activity of the U.S. government. It has stopped mattering — at least to the pimps of war — whether these wars are rational or prudent. The war industry metastasizes within the bowels of the American empire to hollow it out from the inside. The U.S. is reviled abroad, drowning in debt, has an impoverished working class and is burdened with a decayed infrastructure as well as shoddy social services.

Wasn’t the Russian military — because of poor morale, poor generalship, outdated weapons, desertions, a lack of ammunition that supposedly forced soldiers to fight with shovels, and severe supply shortages — supposed to collapse months ago? Wasn’t Putin supposed to be driven from power? Weren’t the sanctions supposed to plunge the ruble into a death spiral? Wasn’t the severing of the Russian banking system from SWIFT, the international money transfer system, supposed to cripple the Russian economy? How is it that inflation rates in Europe and the United States are higher than in Russia despite these attacks on the Russian economy?

Wasn’t the nearly $150 billion in sophisticated military hardware, financial and humanitarian assistance pledged by the U.S., EU and 11 other countries supposed to have turned the tide of the war? How is it that perhaps a third of the tanks Germany and the U.S. provided were swiftly turned by Russian mines, artillery, anti-tank weapons, air strikes and missiles into charred hunks of metal at the start of the vaunted counter-offensive? Wasn’t this latest Ukrainian counter-offensive, which was originally known as the “spring offensive,” supposed to punch through Russia’s heavily fortified front lines and regain huge swathes of territory? How can we explain the tens of thousands of Ukrainian military casualties and the forced [twitter link in original] conscription by Ukraine’s military? Even our retired generals and former CIA, FBI, NSA and Homeland Security officials, who serve as analysts on networks such as CNN and MSNBC, can’t say the offensive has succeeded.

And what of the Ukrainian democracy we are fighting to protect? Why did the Ukrainian parliament revoke the official use of minority languages, including Russian, three days after the 2014 coup? How do we rationalize the eight years of warfare against ethnic Russians in the Donbass region before the Russian invasion in Feb. 2022? How do we explain the killing of over 14,200 people and the 1.5 million people who were displaced, before Russia’s invasion took place last year?

**

A lot more in the full article:
Chris Hedges: They Lied About Afghanistan. They Lied About Iraq. And They Are Lying About Ukraine. | Scheerpost

Are you posting from Moscow or saint petersburg /Leningrad?

I quote a long tract from an article from a well known American journalist, make a few comments on it, and you thus conclude that I must be posting from Moscow or some other Russian city? I'd like to think that you're not just trying to flame bait me, but what you just did is the classic example of attacking the messenger and altogether ignoring the message.
 
I quote a long tract from an article from a well known American journalist, make a few comments on it, and you thus conclude that I must be posting from Moscow or some other Russian city? I'd like to think that you're not just trying to flame bait me, but what you just did is the classic example of attacking the messenger and altogether ignoring the message.

You actually post 100 percent pro-Putin in regards to the war that HE started.
 
Are you posting from Moscow or saint petersburg /Leningrad?

I quote a long tract from an article from a well known American journalist, make a few comments on it, and you thus conclude that I must be posting from Moscow or some other Russian city? I'd like to think that you're not just trying to flame bait me, but what you just did is the classic example of attacking the messenger and altogether ignoring the message.

You actually post 100 percent pro-Putin in regards to the war that HE started.

As I believe I've told you before, there is strong evidence that this war was started by the west. As to when exactly it started, that's harder to pin down, but I personally think a good starting point was the U.S. backed Euromaidan coup, which deposed the elected Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych. It was all downhill from there, with Russia annexing Crimea and the rest of Ukraine descending into civil war for 8 years.

Mere days prior to Putin finally deciding to intervene militarily in Ukraine after 8 years of fruitless attempts at resolving the problem diplomatically, the Ukrainian military had started heavily bombarding the Donbass region, which was apparently a prelude to them trying to retake it from the Donbass rebels by force. Former Swiss Intelligence Officer Jacques Baud goes into detail on all of this in an article he wrote on the subject. I get into this in the thread below:

Former Swiss Intelligence Officer blows the whistle on West's Ukraine War Narrative | justplainpolitics.com
 
This site sounds like a right wing conspiracy propaganda site, and should be taken with a grain of salt.

sadly, no anti war left wing sits exist anymore

As I mentioned to Trumpet, Scheerpost was actually founded by Robert Scheer, who even Wikipedia recognizes is an American left wing journalist. Chris Hedges, the author of the article that I referenced in the opening post, does appear to be more on the right side, but certainly not far right, as evidenced by his book American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America (2007). Finding news sites that are anti war is fairly hard, whether from the left wing or the right, but Scheerpost stands like a bastion in this regard.
 
As I mentioned to Trumpet, Scheerpost was actually founded by Robert Scheer, who even Wikipedia recognizes is an American left wing journalist. Chris Hedges, the author of the article that I referenced in the opening post, does appear to be more on the right side, but certainly not far right, as evidenced by his book American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America (2007). Finding news sites that are anti war is fairly hard, whether from the left wing or the right, but Scheerpost stands like a bastion in this regard.

plenty of anti war liberals exist, but they have been discarded by the various groups that once embraced them and are isolated.

Glen Greenwald is one I enjoy reading
 
Are you posting from Moscow or saint petersburg /Leningrad?
LOL. Chris Hedges. A seeming schizo who has supported pro environmental issues, but also reported for Putin's propaganda network. He's anti war, but delusional w/respect to Putin's hand picked govt. that usurped power in Ukraine...with hundreds of millions being paid to Manafort to achieve same.
 
Chris Hedges has gone weird. He is far from liberal. He is also not exactly a righty. He is deep into conspiracies and really bad tales of world rule by the wealthy.
 
As I mentioned to Trumpet, Scheerpost was actually founded by Robert Scheer, who even Wikipedia recognizes is an American left wing journalist. Chris Hedges, the author of the article that I referenced in the opening post, does appear to be more on the right side, but certainly not far right, as evidenced by his book American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America (2007). Finding news sites that are anti war is fairly hard, whether from the left wing or the right, but Scheerpost stands like a bastion in this regard.

plenty of anti war liberals exist, but they have been discarded by the various groups that once embraced them and are isolated.

Glen Greenwald is one I enjoy reading

I like Greenwald too. I decided to take a look at what he's been doing recently. I think the following article that quotes him extensively shows that he's still where it's at:

Greenwald: If Western Press Admits Ukraine's "Counteroffensive" Is A Failure, Imagine How Bad It Really Is | realclearpolitics.com
 
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