This!!! Is my point on Due Process.

Thugs that belong to gangs that have been declared terrorist groups get a different form of due process.

The State Dept. declares they are terrorists, with evidence, and they are deported.

There is a different level of urgency with terrorists.

Sounds right to me.
 
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Well, let's see. Being Solomonic about this:

Okay, the Trump administration returns Abrego Garcia to the US. They toss him in a jail to await his hearing because:

A. He's an MS 13 gang member as adjudicated by a US court.
B. He's in the US illegally.

So, he rots in jail--without bail being a "flight risk" for being an illegal--until his hearing.

Then he gets his hearing. The outcomes possible are:

A. He is re-deported to El Salvador
B. His deportation is put on hold so:

B1. Trump / ICE tosses him in jail until he is deported as a public risk.
B2. He is sent to GITMO to await deportation as a public risk.

C. He has his asylum hearing and it is denied. Back to El Salvador he goes.


This guy is fucked any and every way you look at it. He can't win, and no Leftist judge can change that. At this point, it's just where he's going to be doing time that changes.
 
“Here’s the thing: Once you give up the idea that we are all equal before the law and have the right to due process, you have given up the whole game. You have admitted the principle that some people have more rights than others. Once you have replaced the principle of equality before the law with the idea that some people have no rights, you have granted your approval to the idea of an authoritarian government. At that point, all you can do is to hope that the dictator and his henchmen overlook you.”
retards still think anointing Scamala was the solution?
 
“Here’s the thing: Once you give up the idea that we are all equal before the law and have the right to due process, you have given up the whole game. You have admitted the principle that some people have more rights than others. Once you have replaced the principle of equality before the law with the idea that some people have no rights, you have granted your approval to the idea of an authoritarian government. At that point, all you can do is to hope that the dictator and his henchmen overlook you.”
but you believe in affirmative action.

your life is an inconsistent lie of stupidity.
 
I call them the way I see them.

You are cheap.

Why should I be angry that you are cheap?

Ya esta.
The tell is not whether I am cheap or not, it’s that you go out of your way to call me cheap, it’s important to you that I be cheap, so you can insult me. That comes from anger.
 
I want to know who will be held in contempt of court?
It will likely be a slow process to get there. It will start with the court demanding that everyone that submitted a signed statement to the court show up to be questioned. Failure to show up will probably mean their statement is no longer valid evidence. If they do show up the questions will include where who gave them the information they claimed was true. Those people will then be required to show up and questioned. The lawyers for the government will be put on the position of they can't make any claim to the court without providing the person making that claim.

By the time this is done there will be a very clear record of the government ignoring the court's orders making it almost impossible for any higher court to overturn the lower court.
 
It will likely be a slow process to get there. It will start with the court demanding that everyone that submitted a signed statement to the court show up to be questioned. Failure to show up will probably mean their statement is no longer valid evidence. If they do show up the questions will include where who gave them the information they claimed was true. Those people will then be required to show up and questioned. The lawyers for the government will be put on the position of they can't make any claim to the court without providing the person making that claim.

By the time this is done there will be a very clear record of the government ignoring the court's orders making it almost impossible for any higher court to overturn the lower court.
Trump can completely ignore the court. They have no jurisdiction to make such a ruling.
 
It has not been proven in any court that Kilmar Garcia is a gang member.
I think a judge ruling that he wouldn't send him to El Salvador to protect him from a rival gang is proof. Do you know what 'rival gang' means, dumbass. You libtarded idiots have you head so far up your ass you're not getting enough air. Who in their right mind thinks this guy shouldn't be shipped the hell out of this Country, only completely brain dead libtard drones. You are clearly in that camp, in fact, I'm quite sure I found your Tik Tok video. I've already shared it but in case you missed it, here it is again:

View: https://x.com/LangmanVince/status/1912085659390484497
 
Ok Dicky, I'll just answer my own question and let you know who I'm referring to:

Meet Kilmar Abrego Garcia, the left’s latest poster boy for “save the poor criminal” bingo. Back in 2019, Immigration Judge Olivia Cassin in Baltimore slapped him with a no-bond ruling, pointing to a pesky little detail: a confidential informant tying him to MS-13. Then, Judge Denise Slavin swooped in later that year, tossing him a “withholding of removal” lifeline to dodge deportation to El Salvador, citing risks of gang violence. How touching.
A confidential informant that turns out to be a police officer that was suspended from duty for undisclosed reasons.
This is the exact opposite of due process since due process requires that a defendant be able to question their accuser.
Cassin's no bond ruling was appealed to Judge Kessler who expressed that clothing is not an indication of gang membership but upheld the possibility of flight risk. This was then appealed and denied by Judge Greer who referred to the "alleged gang affiliation" which recognizes that no gang affiliation was proven.

I am curious why you think Judge Slavin signed the ruling that had the "withholding of removal lifeline" when it was Judge Jones who signed it on 10/10/19.


You might want to educate yourself and actually read the court rulings signed by the judges.
Call me old-fashioned, but those court dates scream “not an American” and “straight outta El Salvador” louder than a mariachi band. The DOJ’s evidence pile, plus Slavin’s nod to rival gang threats, paints a neon sign: MS-13 thug. Why else would a “rival gang” want him gone? It’s not like they’re fighting over who gets the last pupusa. Common sense isn’t exactly the left’s strong suit, though, is it? They’re too busy knitting him a halo to notice he’s a menace. This guy’s a walking crime wave we’re better off without, and the second he was yeeted back to El Salvador, America dodged a bullet. Keep cheering for your “victim,” libtards, it’s adorable how you fall for every sob story.
OK. You are an old fashioned liar and purveyor of falsehoods. Would you care to provide us with this alleged ruling by Judge Slavin? I have provided a link to the ruling by Judge Jones and here is the judge's signature.
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If Garcia is as bad as you claim, why would you not want to prove that in court and show up all the libs for supporting such a horrible person?
 
Ponder this…he claimed he did not belong to a gang yet he fought being deported to his country of origin because he feared his gang would retaliate for lying about not belonging to the gang.

You can’t make this stuff up.
It seems you are making this stuff up.

He feared because the gang had threatened him with death in order to target the earnings of his mother's business.
It's right there in the court ruling.
 
I think a judge ruling that he wouldn't send him to El Salvador to protect him from a rival gang is proof. Do you know what 'rival gang' means, dumbass. You libtarded idiots have you head so far up your ass you're not getting enough air. Who in their right mind thinks this guy shouldn't be shipped the hell out of this Country, only completely brain dead libtard drones. You are clearly in that camp, in fact, I'm quite sure I found your Tik Tok video. I've already shared it but in case you missed it, here it is again:

View: https://x.com/LangmanVince/status/1912085659390484497
You guys will believe anything in spite of the facts. I have read the court rulings and not one of them says anything about a "rival gang" being the reason for not sending him back.

Feel free to tell me which page has the words "rival gang" on it.
 
You guys will believe anything in spite of the facts. I have read the court rulings and not one of them says anything about a "rival gang" being the reason for not sending him back.

Feel free to tell me which page has the words "rival gang" on it.
Oh, look at you, classic lefty, dodging facts like they’re a speeding bullet! You’d stare truth in the face and swear it’s a conspiracy cooked up by your barista. Verifying stuff is easy, champ, but instead you’re out here spinning fairy tales, claiming “I’ve read the court ruling” like you’re some legal scholar. Please, you haven’t read a damn thing except maybe the cartoons. Prove me wrong, hotshot, paste the ruling on Kilmar Abrego Garcia. Go on, I’ll wait… crickets, right? That’s because you’re peddling pure bullshit, as always.

Here’s the actual deal. Immigration Judge Denise Noonan Slavin handed Garcia “withholding of removal” status in 2019, citing risks of gang violence in El Salvador. That’s called reality, something you’re clearly allergic to. You’re just another libtard flailing in a losing argument, acting like your below-average IQ makes you Einstein’s cousin. Spoiler: it doesn’t. When you’re scraping the bottom of the brain barrel, most folks are outsmarting you without breaking a sweat. Keep yapping, genius, it’s very entertaining.
 
“Here’s the thing: Once you give up the idea that we are all equal before the law and have the right to due process, you have given up the whole game. You have admitted the principle that some people have more rights than others. Once you have replaced the principle of equality before the law with the idea that some people have no rights, you have granted your approval to the idea of an authoritarian government. At that point, all you can do is to hope that the dictator and his henchmen overlook you.”
This from an advocate of "trans" rights. And "gay" rights.
 
Oh, look at you, classic lefty, dodging facts like they’re a speeding bullet! You’d stare truth in the face and swear it’s a conspiracy cooked up by your barista. Verifying stuff is easy, champ, but instead you’re out here spinning fairy tales, claiming “I’ve read the court ruling” like you’re some legal scholar. Please, you haven’t read a damn thing except maybe the cartoons. Prove me wrong, hotshot, paste the ruling on Kilmar Abrego Garcia. Go on, I’ll wait… crickets, right? That’s because you’re peddling pure bullshit, as always.

Here’s the actual deal. Immigration Judge Denise Noonan Slavin handed Garcia “withholding of removal” status in 2019, citing risks of gang violence in El Salvador. That’s called reality, something you’re clearly allergic to. You’re just another libtard flailing in a losing argument, acting like your below-average IQ makes you Einstein’s cousin. Spoiler: it doesn’t. When you’re scraping the bottom of the brain barrel, most folks are outsmarting you without breaking a sweat. Keep yapping, genius, it’s very entertaining.
Rulings on Garcia
The 4/29/19 request for release with no bond
The 10/10/19 ruling by Judge Jones that granted withholding of removal
The 12/19/2019 appeal of the no bond

I now proved you wrong so let's see your ruling by Slavin that you keep "yapping" about.
 
Rulings on Garcia
The 4/29/19 request for release with no bond
The 10/10/19 ruling by Judge Jones that granted withholding of removal
The 12/19/2019 appeal of the no bond

I now proved you wrong so let's see your ruling by Slavin that you keep "yapping" about.
Oh, look at you, playing courtroom detective with your little PDF parade! You’re really out here swinging, claiming Judge Slavin never mentioned gang violence risks for Kilmar Abrego Garcia, huh? Cute, but you’re tripping over your own smugness. Let’s clear the air, libtard style: you got the judge wrong, DUMBASS. It wasn’t Jones, it was Denise Noonan Slavin who granted Garcia’s “withholding of removal” in 2019, and yes, she explicitly cited risks of persecution tied to gang violence in El Salvador. That’s not my opinion—that’s the ruling’s core, based on Garcia’s claims of targeted threats.

Your stupidity is worse than I thought. Once you go and find out that what you 'read' (bullshit) is referring to Cassin denying bond over MS-13 ties, be sure to come back and say I was wrong and you were right, lol. You won't because you have no class. You got caught believing some other libtard that probably posted that case to get you to click on it like the fool you are. Poor Dicky, a perfect target for the media's business model, exploit the TDS morons, you can make a fortune for ads if you get enough fools to click on a bullshit story that goes along with you predictable narrative. SUCKER
 
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