To the second question, if a criminal becomes a significant threat to my life, I have the right to kill them in self defense. Though an unborn child is not at fault, some pregnancies are impossible to bring to term without killing the mother. They threaten the mother's life. She also has the right to kill in self defense. But the threat would have to be significant and not based on some "what if this happens" type of excuse. Just as I would have to show that my life was truly in immediate danger from the criminal, and not based on what I thought he might do to me sometime in the future.
First you compare pro-choicers to pro-slavery people, now you're comparing killing a baby to killing a criminal! Whatever!!!!! So it's everyone for themselves? It's either me or you! I can defend myself by having an abortion but you can't defend yourself at all so I win and you die. That is the most harsh, cruel, unpro-life thing I have ever heard! The woman is choosing to kill her child so she can save her own neck! I take it back. It is pro-life.....pro-life for her! Most pro-lifers are super religious so why interfere with God's plan? He wants the kid to live and you to die so why defy him?
Because rape is a crime perpetrated on an innocent victim, who had no choice in whether or not they became impregnated, and were violated by a criminal. I believe in a woman's right to choose, although I don't believe in unlimited choice. They should be able to choose to engage in sexual activity which causes pregnancy. Once that decision is made, they shouldn't be allowed another choice to terminate the life resulting from the first choice.
So let me get this straight Dixie. It's not killing the baby itself that determines whether or not abortion is ok, but instead the mother having consentual sex or not? Rape doesn't make the baby evil so when you have an abortion, you are killing an innocent baby! Why does rape magically change that? Because of unwanted sex? That's just an excuse! Just like "the condom or pill failed me" or "we will go into poverty". What's the thing you tell the pro-choicers who make those arguments? "Don't have sex if you don't want to get pregnant" Well Dixie, don't put yourself in a situation to get raped if you don't want to get pregnant!
Neither of these positions "magically change" a living fetus to anything other than what it is, a living human being. Nothing can "magically change" this, because it is biology. At point of conception, an independent living human organism results, and what it is, a human being, never changes.
MEANING YOU ARE GIVING EXCUSES TO KILL AN INNOCENT BABY!
Exceptions to allow the termination of human life, are made every day. We have exceptions for executions, self-defense, line of duty for police, justifiable homicide, and in some cases like Terri Schiavo, euthanasia. So, we have societal justifications for terminating human life, but these are exceptional circumstances, and the moral argument has to prevail when rationalizing these exceptions. Just as Ethnic Cleansing is not an appropriate justification for ending life, neither is Birth Control.
But those criminals we execute are monsters! babies aren't. Birth control is a bad reason for having an abortion but rape isn't? You make no sense! In both cases, the mom isn't trying to get pregnant but she does anyway. In both cases the unborn is still an innocent baby. But rape means it's ok to kill it and the pill isn't. Complete hypocrisy!
