Socrtease
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True dat! He actually cleared her of ANY wrong doing. Nuff said huh?
Troopergate report: Palin abused power
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I am interested, thank you.
Soc - What's your take on the conflicting findings? First, that Palin violated the state ethics act but second that her termination of Monegan was lawful because the governor can hire and fire in violation of state ethics laws?
My initial impression was that it is a crock of shit, but maybe that's just because the reasoning isn't spelled out clearly enough. I could understand if the report concluded that the state ethics law, a statute cannot overrule the constitutional authority of the governor, but that doesn't sit right with me either. It would seem to me that the legislature can set some rough boundaries on the governors exercise of her constitutional authority by prohibiting terminations in violation of state ethics law.
It just doesn't sit right with me.
Maybe you didn't read or understand the beginning of the report....
"SCOPE OF THE INVESTIGATION"
The Consultant, Mr. Branchflower, conducted the investigation alone...
he alone came to his conclusions
he alone made a report to the Legislature
he alone made recommendations to the Legislature
he is a partisan ...
Socrtease
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I am going to read the actual report tomorrow sometime. I was first under the impression that what they meant was the way she went about it was a violation of the ethics but not a violation of the law. Now I am going to sign off and go smoke a cigar and drink a beer.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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It's amazing to me... absolutely amazing....
Not too long ago, we had a Governor of Arkansas (I think), who fired two state troopers because they revealed his extramarital affairs during his presidential campaign. Now, we have a Governor of Alaska, who's office supposedly asked for the firing of a state trooper who tasered his son. In the first instance, it was no big deal, the governor was within the law, no harm-no foul... now, suddenly, it's this big huge deal, and people need to go to jail! OMG.... can you say, HYPOCRITES?
Not too long ago, we had a Governor of Arkansas (I think), who fired two state troopers because they revealed his extramarital affairs during his presidential campaign. Now, we have a Governor of Alaska, who's office supposedly asked for the firing of a state trooper who tasered his son. In the first instance, it was no big deal, the governor was within the law, no harm-no foul... now, suddenly, it's this big huge deal, and people need to go to jail! OMG.... can you say, HYPOCRITES?
Enjoy.
The way I read it the report finds that she (and her husband) impermissible pressured subordinates including Monegan to fire Wooten in violation of state ethics laws and that, although Monegan's refusal to succumb to their actions in violation of the ethics laws was a contributing factor to his termination, the governor is permitted to fire department heads for absolutely any reason under the sun, including unethical reasons.
It's like saying that it is against he law to discriminate against Christians but that because an employee is an employee at will terminating him primarily because he is Christian does not violate the law.
It makes little sense to me.
You gonna be okay, Dix? I've been worried about you with the polls & everything else, and now this.....
Dixie - In Memoriam
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LOL... Onzies, I am fine and dandy! My underground bunker is fully stocked with enough supplies to last the next 4 years, including guns and ammo. I am a little worried about you morons who don't seem to have a clue as to what is coming, and think it's just going to be one big liberal party after the election. But, it's okay... you'll find out soon enough, and there is really nothing else I can do to warn you. Some people are too stupid for their own good, and ultimately get what they deserve. I hope yours is swift and painless.
Sir Galahad
Christian Socialist Party
Oh goodie, a civil war..... just what the doctor ordered. I'll be on vacation and won't be back until after the carnage. As an independent, I've been given immunity from participation in this conflict. 
Oh goodie, a civil war..... just what the doctor ordered. I'll be on vacation and won't be back until after the carnage. As an independent, I've been given immunity from participation in this conflict.
better leave the country and hope the war does not devolve into scorched earth
so what were the other members of the commission doing, ignoring the whole thing
Sir Galahad
Christian Socialist Party
That's WWIII you speak of, which is right around the corner.
they were both wrong, but may have been acting within the limits of their authority
no good deed goes unpunished apparently - so a perk of the office is that you get to piss on anyone that pisses on you or that you plain do not like
would you want either person in line for the white house
abuse of power is just that, an abuse and should not be condoned
i think the early christians were more communistic - they shared most everything or should i say more communal
personally, i think most of the old testament should be thrown out (except the song of solomon or song of songs) and some of psalms
Kamala Trump
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You need to get your head around Barney Frank.
like i always say, we have the best elected representatives that money can buy
Sir Galahad
Christian Socialist Party
some people practice what they believe in