Trump is going to jail for a long time

Nordberg said:
trump should serve hard time. He committed many crimes against America and is a huge threat to end the American experiment. He has to pay or Desantis or another Repub will do the same thing.
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He should be hung from the WH gates, but that won't happen either. Justice in America is bought through high price lawyers and a justice system that favors the defendants.
 
Trumpet said:
It that's lots of money to do that.
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Agreed, but he has the money...mostly from his marks suckers fans.

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floridafan said:
In a panel discussion on Newsmax, former Cranston, Rhode Island Mayor Steve Laffey, one of the first GOP presidential candidates to announce, let loose on former President Donald Trump.

The discussion was about Trump's recording, in which he says he didn't declassify a set of documents he had and was showing to others. It made it clear that he understood he didn't declassify the information and that he "should" have before leaving the presidency.

"It's damning," Laffey said of the tape. "I was the first person to run against Donald Trump. I was the first to say he needs to get out of the race. And I think he's going to jail for a long time. He needs to get out of the race so the country can now get to normal things like trying to figure out how to put back the middle class.
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Trump doesn't need to declassify anything. It was the FBI THAT SHOWED IT OTHERS!!
 
Tinkerpeach said:
First of all a president can never serve hard time as it would be a national security risk so at worse the president would be under home arrest.

Now some bullet points for you.

1. It doesn’t matter what Trump says, it matters what the law says.
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This is correct.
Tinkerpeach said:
2. The questions here are if Trump kept classified documents illegally.
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Not a question. He has authorization under Article II, Title 18, and Title 44.
Tinkerpeach said:
3. The only law pertaining to this is the PRA which does not forbid the president to keep any documents, it only states that he must turn all documents over to the national archives. Nowhere does the law say he isn’t allowed to keep copies of them.
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Correct.
Tinkerpeach said:
4. Trump did turn everything over to the archives.
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Also correct. Indeed, the National Archives helped by delivering the copies to Trump...as is their duty under Title 44.
Tinkerpeach said:
5. Another charge is if he is allowed to keep classified documents and again the law is not clear on this.
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It is completely clear. Trump may retain any document he wishes. He does not need to declassify anything. That authority also stems from Article II, and specified in Title 44.
Tinkerpeach said:
The president has full authority to declassify any document he wants. There is nothing in any law defining the process for declassifying documents, only internal departmental policy.
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He does, but he doesn't have to.
Tinkerpeach said:
As Trump is leader of all these departments he has the authority to dictate their policies for declassification.
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He does, but he doesn't have to.
Tinkerpeach said:
Again, there is no law dictating how this must be done so per the existing law, Trump could declassify them any way he wants, whether it is through a memo or simply his word.
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Trump does not need to declassify anything. He may retain classified documents.
Tinkerpeach said:
This is why prosecutors are avoiding the PRA and trying to charge him under the espionage act which doesn’t apply here and most certainly does not overrule the PRA.
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Title 18 does apply as well as Title 44. Title 18 specifically cedes to the exceptions outlined in Title 44. The Constitution, of course, is the originating authority for both laws, and for the authority the President (and former Presidents) has. Neither Congress, the DOJ, NARA, nor any other branch or agency of the government has authority to curtail the limits of authority the President (and former Presidents) have.
Tinkerpeach said:
In conclusion, there is no actual law that was broken here by Trump and the prosecution knows this. They are grasping at straws just to file charges against Trump even though they know nothing can hold up in the court of law.
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This is also absolutely correct. This yet another example of the persecution of Trump by frivolous lawsuits that has been going on for over EIGHT YEARS.
 
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