IBDaMann
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This is just an internet forum. You don't need to become so flustered. In fact, if you could just relax for a moment, you could study math and learn to embrace it.Are you?
This is just an internet forum. You don't need to become so flustered. In fact, if you could just relax for a moment, you could study math and learn to embrace it.Are you?
No, it doesn't.And it has been the left that has to come in and fix our economy after Republican Presidents run us into a recession.
IMO the USA does a lot better when we have a Dem President then when we have a Republican one.
You deny math.This is just an internet forum. You don't need to become so flustered. In fact, if you could just relax for a moment, you could study math and learn to embrace it.
" It doesn't " ? LOLNo, it doesn't.
A Yahoo search engine result and the Democrats in Congress saying so are your examples?" It doesn't " ? LOL
well here are a LOT of links with info saying different.
does the US economy d - Yahoo Search Results
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Go read some of them there are a LOT of different links saying so along with several from the US government.A Yahoo search engine result and the Democrats in Congress saying so are your examples?![]()
Here is some more info on who runs us into recessions and who gets us out of themA Yahoo search engine result and the Democrats in Congress saying so are your examples?![]()
I don't look at it by Presidential terms. That's straight up idiotic. Presidents come and go PDQ and they don't have near as much influence as state governments do over time on a state.Go read some of them there are a LOT of different links saying so along with several from the US government.
And then go look at the FACT that it has been Republican Presidents that got us into the last few Recessions and it took a DEM President to get us out of them.
IT is STILL a FACT that Recessions start under Republican Presidents and Dem Presidents get us out of them and our economy does better under a DEM President then it does under a Republican President .I don't look at it by Presidential terms. That's straight up idiotic. Presidents come and go PDQ and they don't have near as much influence as state governments do over time on a state.
An irrelevant fact. What you are doing by using just who's President and what the economy is doing results in a whole raft of logical fallacies thus:IT is STILL a FACT that Recessions start under Republican Presidents and Dem Presidents get us out of them and our economy does better under a DEM President then it does under a Republican President .
YOU just can't stand facts.
Well for one thing I have to oversimplify things for the very stupid MAGAs on here like you.An irrelevant fact. What you are doing by using just who's President and what the economy is doing results in a whole raft of logical fallacies thus:
Fallacy of the single cause / casual oversimplification. The economy is far more complex and nuanced that its direction can be attributed to a single factor.
Affirming a disjunct: You then make the oversimplification into an either-or question. That is either A or B. In this case Republican or Democrat. Again, totally oversimplified.
Toss in the fallacy of composition. By oversimplifying, you leave out so much as to make what you leave in irrelevant.
Then there's the fallacy of proximate cause. If all you are looking at is the current state of the economy via a few or one factor, you are ignoring the economy over time and all the factors that go into its direction.
Question:
If Democrats do so well with the economy, why is business and industry fleeing Democrat run states like running from a wildfire? If Democrats do so well with the economy why are Democrat run, blue states, almost always the ones with the highest unemployment, homelessness numbers, and number of welfare recipients? The same goes for why blue states run the biggest per capita debt continuously.
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Another indicator of economic performance is spending by government. Democrats love to spend and run up debt. Yes, some Republican presidents and administrations do too, but usually for very different reasons. Democrats tend to spend on social-welfare programs with little or no ROI. These tend to inflate the economy short term but are destructive in the long run because they become unsustainable.
Reagan was more than 30 years ago. Bush II had the Global War on Terror tossed on him, or did you forget 9/11? Obama and Biden are the combination that have spent the most on the government credit card in the last 30 years by far.Well for one thing I have to oversimplify things for the very stupid MAGAs on here like you.
And as for the debt again it has gone up more under Republican Presidents then Dem Presidents over the last 30 years.
Reagan almost tripled it GW doubled it, YES Obama did run it up a lot , we had to spend our way out of the deep Recession Bush II left him, and how about Trumps first term?
He ran the debt up ALMOST as much as Obama did and he did it in just 4 years it took Obama 8 years.
And as for your Blue state BS , It is the blue states that send more money into the fed government and get less back . it is that money that keeps a lot of the red states running and keeps their taxes lower.An irrelevant fact. What you are doing by using just who's President and what the economy is doing results in a whole raft of logical fallacies thus:
Fallacy of the single cause / casual oversimplification. The economy is far more complex and nuanced that its direction can be attributed to a single factor.
Affirming a disjunct: You then make the oversimplification into an either-or question. That is either A or B. In this case Republican or Democrat. Again, totally oversimplified.
Toss in the fallacy of composition. By oversimplifying, you leave out so much as to make what you leave in irrelevant.
Then there's the fallacy of proximate cause. If all you are looking at is the current state of the economy via a few or one factor, you are ignoring the economy over time and all the factors that go into its direction.
Question:
If Democrats do so well with the economy, why is business and industry fleeing Democrat run states like running from a wildfire? If Democrats do so well with the economy why are Democrat run, blue states, almost always the ones with the highest unemployment, homelessness numbers, and number of welfare recipients? The same goes for why blue states run the biggest per capita debt continuously.
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Another indicator of economic performance is spending by government. Democrats love to spend and run up debt. Yes, some Republican presidents and administrations do too, but usually for very different reasons. Democrats tend to spend on social-welfare programs with little or no ROI. These tend to inflate the economy short term but are destructive in the long run because they become unsustainable.
OH so Trump running the debt up almost as much as Obama did in FOUR YEARS where it Took Obama EIGHT YEARS is fine with you,Reagan was more than 30 years ago. Bush II had the Global War on Terror tossed on him, or did you forget 9/11? Obama and Biden are the combination that have spent the most on the government credit card in the last 30 years by far.
And as for your Blue state BS , It is the blue states that send more money into the fed government and get less back . it is that money that keeps a lot of the red states running and keeps their taxes lower.
This old canard? Most red states run surpluses or even on spending unlike blue states. They would cut some services because that's how they roll. I know, you as a Leftist think that's unfathomably cruel, but then you think that Socialism works too despite history...If it wasn't for the blue states the red states would either have to cut services they provide their people or raise taxes.
What can't stand facts?WTF does that have to do with what I stated. Aside from that, if you take out government spending for items linked to geography, defense, and other fixed by location spending, blue states end up winning that negative too.
This old canard? Most red states run surpluses or even on spending unlike blue states. They would cut some services because that's how they roll. I know, you as a Leftist think that's unfathomably cruel, but then you think that Socialism works too despite history...
Ancient history from 64 years ago. Why didn't you show Ford's? Carter's? Reagan's? The fact you always go to back for your Orange Jesus is fascinating, Terry. You've completely turned your back on your oath and your service to pledge fealty to a man who doesn't give a fuck about the military except as his most powerful toy.So, what does this make JFK's inaugural parade...
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Or maybe Eisenhower's...
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Or...
9/11 was NOT " tossed on him, it happened when he was already in office.Reagan was more than 30 years ago. Bush II had the Global War on Terror tossed on him, or did you forget 9/11? Obama and Biden are the combination that have spent the most on the government credit card in the last 30 years by far.
Won't that stop under Trump? The tornado and hurricane season is just starting. Guess which states are the most vulnerable to natural disasters?What can't stand facts?
It is a FACT Blue states send in a LOT more money to the Fed then they get back and Red states get a LOT more then they send in.
What is it NY sends in something like 19 Billion more then they get back.
And it looks like Trump may be turning his back on them too.Won't that stop under Trump? The tornado and hurricane season is just starting. Guess which states are the most vulnerable to natural disasters?