Trump will do well in the "debate".

Jarod

Jarod

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These televised presidential show-downs are not "debates" in the classical sense of the word. They are events designed to get a big audience.

Trump will do well at what he does, he will insult and bluster and say things that would make sense if they were true.

Harris will spout policy, and might have some canned one liners. She will be able to get in some jabs.


The "winner" will be whoever, three or four days from now the national consensus believes gained more prestige or favorable opinions.
The "winner" from the perspective of the campaigns will be the one who moves the dial toward their camp moving toward November.

They will both do very well at their goals.

What image they come away with is what matters.
 
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If Heels Up Harris spouts policy, which policies are we to believe, the ones she held the past nearly four years or the ones that she has flipped on now...for political expediency?
 
Trump has every advantage because he can be himself.

Kamala is trying to figure out how to reinvent some form of herself that isn't repulsive to a national electorate. I don't think it is possible. Nothing is going to shock the country about Trump - but some of her past stances are batshit crazy and will seem made up because of how crazy it is - but the fact checkers will have to admit she did say these things
 
BartenderElite said:
MAGA is going to think Trump won NO MATTER WHAT.

But Harris will do a much better job in this debate.
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MAGA will be screaming about how trump won for the next three days, (because they think they can affect perception by doing that) but when the dust settles the national feel will tell us who won.
 
Earl said:
If Heels Up Harris spouts policy, which policies are we to believe, the ones she held the past nearly four years or the ones that she has flipped on now...for political expediency?
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Trump fliped on all his basic shit. Now he is pro-Choice in Florida.
 
zymurgy said:
Trump has every advantage because he can be himself.

Kamala is trying to figure out how to reinvent some form of herself that isn't repulsive to a national electorate. I don't think it is possible. Nothing is going to shock the country about Trump - but some of her past stances are batshit crazy and will seem made up because of how crazy it is - but the fact checkers will have to admit she did say these things
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Trump crazy is already baked in. Kamala is thusfar very undefined, so this "debate" will help define her, but if that is good for her electoral chances or not remains to be seen.
 
zymurgy said:
Trump has every advantage because he can be himself.

Kamala is trying to figure out how to reinvent some form of herself that isn't repulsive to a national electorate. I don't think it is possible. Nothing is going to shock the country about Trump - but some of her past stances are batshit crazy and will seem made up because of how crazy it is - but the fact checkers will have to admit she did say these things
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How much can trump really be himself? Will he walk out without make-up? Will he take the lifts out of his shoes? Will he let us see how bald he really is?

Or are you talking about policy? Is he pro-Choice? Pro-Life? Does he support Ukraine or Russia? Does he support Israel's right to murder Gazan kids?

Will he again to promise to build a wall from sea to shingling sea and have Mexico pay?
 
BartenderElite said:
MAGA is going to think Trump won NO MATTER WHAT.

But Harris will do a much better job in this debate.
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it wouldn't matter if Trump makes himself look like a complete idiot , and rambles on and on about nothing they will still say he won.
heck he could be sitting there drooling all over himself like the senile old man he is and they wouldn't care they would still say he won
as they still do about the 2020 election.
MAGAS are NOT to smart.
Have a nice day
 
What difference does it make, both sides will claim they won the debate, and even if Trump repeated his disaster of his first debate with Biden back in 2020 Fox and the MAGA media will declare Trump toasted her
 
Earl said:
If Heels Up Harris spouts policy, which policies are we to believe, the ones she held the past nearly four years or the ones that she has flipped on now...for political expediency?
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I hate to tell you She hasn't been President for the last four years Biden has been, and VP's don't really have a large say in what goes on when they are in office.
They may give the President advice but that is about as far as it goes.
have a nice day
 
Jarod said:
These televised presidential show-downs are not "debates" in the classical sense of the word. They are events designed to get a big audience.

Trump will do well at what he does, he will insult and bluster and say things that would make sense if they were true.

Harris will spout policy, and might have some canned one liners. She will be able to get in some jabs.


The "winner" will be whoever, three or four days from now the national consensus believes gained more prestige or favorable opinions.
The "winner" from the perspective of the campaigns will be the one who moves the dial toward their camp moving toward November.

They will both do very well at their goals.

What image they come away with is what matters.
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What policies would that be? name 3
 
Jarod said:
How much can trump really be himself? Will he walk out without make-up? Will he take the lifts out of his shoes? Will he let us see how bald he really is?

Or are you talking about policy? Is he pro-Choice? Pro-Life? Does he support Ukraine or Russia? Does he support Israel's right to murder Gazan kids?

Will he again to promise to build a wall from sea to shingling sea and have Mexico pay?
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Yes - I am talking about policy - he has given nearly 40 interviews - often with people that don't like him

your softballs about abortion will be easy. that issue is settled. You need to work in your state to handle it. We can now focus on national issues like Ukraine, the economy, the border and foreign policy and keep a socialist from winning office.
 
volsrock1 said:
What policies would that be? name 3
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Middle class tax cuts.
A border security bill with an amnesty provision that will fund controls and a process for immigration.
Standing by our allies Israel and Ukraine in their time of need.
 
volsrock1 said:
What policies would that be? name 3
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she got busted by her own side for copying most of her middle of the night policy page on her website from Biden's website

her new way forward literally copied ideas from the old guy with dementia...the ones she is not stealing from Trump that is
 
zymurgy said:
Yes - I am talking about policy - he has given nearly 40 interviews - often with people that don't like him

your softballs about abortion will be easy. that issue is settled. You need to work in your state to handle it. We can now focus on national issues like Ukraine, the economy, the border and foreign policy and keep a socialist from winning office.
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You call them interviews, but he does not answer questions.

Question: Mr. Trump what is your specific policy proposal regarding childcare?

"Answer": Well, Ivanka and others we met and we will be very strong with childcare, because the children have to be cared for especially if the parents work and unemployment is out of control because Biden. In Russia they make you work, but Ukraine cant just keep getting our money.
 
Jarod said:
You call them interviews, but he does not answer questions.

Question: Mr. Trump what is your specific policy proposal regarding childcare?

"Answer": Well, Ivanka and others we met and we will be very strong with childcare, because the children have to be cared for especially if the parents work and unemployment is out of control because Biden. In Russia they make you work, but Ukraine cant just keep getting our money.
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I have a much better idea of his plans - and only a liar would say the same of Kamala

Only a gas lighting shit stain is fine with her calling a border wall racist a few years ago and then using that border wall in campaign ads today
 
Jarod said:
Middle class tax cuts.
A border security bill with an amnesty provision that will fund controls and a process for immigration.
Standing by our allies Israel and Ukraine in their time of need.
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Biden/Harris has ha 4 years for a security bill

We already have been standing Israel and Ukraine in their time of need.


IRS data proves Trump tax cuts benefited middle, working-class Americans most​


Income data published by the IRS clearly show that on average all income brackets benefited substantially from the Republicans’ tax reform law, with the biggest beneficiaries being working and middle-income filers, not the top 1 percent, as so many Democrats have argued.

A careful analysis of the IRS tax data, one that includes the effects of tax credits and other reforms to the tax code, shows that filers with an adjusted gross income (AGI) of $15,000 to $50,000 enjoyed an average tax cut of 16 percent to 26 percent in 2018, the first year Republicans’ Tax Cuts and Jobs Act went into effect and the most recent year for which data is available.


 
zymurgy said:
I have a much better idea of his plans - and only a liar would say the same of Kamala

Only a gas lighting shit stain is fine with her calling a border wall racist a few years ago and then using that border wall in campaign ads today
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I have a much better idea of what he plans to do, because he was formerly POTUS.
 
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