Trump’s Overrated Peace Plan Helped Enable the Horrors in Israel and Gaza

Everyone involved in that deal is dead. The organizations are defunct. The players are different. What stays the same if Israel's relentless move to take Palestinian lands.

There's a lot of dead between then and midnight tonight.

What would you do if a neighbor was constantly murdering your citizens? How is this different than the Pershing Expedition into Mexico to stop Pancho Villa?

If the Cartels murdered Americans in El Paso or Brownsville, why would it be wrong to send a military force to the headquarters of those Cartels and anyone who supported them?

https://americanhistory.si.edu/blog/pershings-mexican-expedition
The small American town of Columbus, New Mexico, was the site of a major event 100 years ago today. On March 9, 1916, spurred by events in the Mexican Revolution, General Francisco "Pancho" Villa's forces attacked the camp of the 13th Cavalry Regiment. In reaction to this attack, President Woodrow Wilson appointed General John Pershing as commander of a U.S. Army expeditionary force that was to capture Villa and police the U.S.-Mexico border. Called the Punitive Expedition at the time, this was just the beginning of a lengthy search for Villa that never resulted in his capture, now known as the Mexican Expedition. It took place March 14, 1916, to February 7, 1917.

Why did Villa attack? It's complicated, but here's a quick summary. The Mexican Revolution was an uprising that impacted the social, economic, and political life of both Mexico and the United States. The United States had become heavily invested in Mexican mining, railroads, and oil operations and protected these investments through military and political interventions in Mexico. In support of their people, Mexican revolutionary leaders sought land reforms and the nationalization of these operations. At one time, President Wilson supported Villa and then later withdrew support. Angered by the reversal, Villa attacked.
 
I note with interest that yesterday or maybe the day before Russian Propaganda RT was making the exact same point....that the Trump era Abriams Accords have predictably failed because Americans still dont understand the ME.
 
Incompetent Trump sowed the seeds for this disaster, and is now blaming Biden, which is typical Trump.

No American president caused Hamas’ surprise assault across the Gaza border that killed over 900 Israelis—mostly in deliberate, brutal attacks on civilians, including 260 at a music festival—and kidnapping about 150 more. But U.S. policy, especially the Trump administration’s, contributed to the unsustainable situation that made an outbreak of violence more likely


Trump shifted U.S. policy fully in Israel’s favor—reducing support for the Palestinians and treating their quest for statehood as something that could be ignored—and shaped the regional context by heightening confrontation with Iran without strategic benefit.


https://news.yahoo.com/trump-overrated-peace-plan-helped-190655662.html
trump made a calculated bet that going overboard on Israel was an election winner. He's not smart enough to consider long term consequences.

He did the same in Iran.
 
I'm not blaming either one for this latest round of fighting. This is on Israel for being complacent and Hamas for being insane assholes.
That sums it up, but trump getting out of the Iran agreement re. uranium enrichment was stupidity.

A common theme throughout his tenure.
 
The Palestinians are against it. Funny how you left them out of that...

The reason Gaza is so isolated is Israel doesn't want terrorists from Gaza doing evil shit in their country, and Egypt, likewise, doesn't want terrorists from Gaza doing evil shit in their country. If Gazan Palestinians stopped doing evil terrorist shit in their neighbor's countries the borders with Gaza wouldn't be closed like they are.
Not Palestinians. Hamas. And the rest of the region who refuses to accept Israel's right to exist.
 
Oh, I'm not saying Israel is innocent by any means. It's just they don't generally start shit with their neighbors and use perpetual violence as a tool. I think the Israeli policy of settling the West Bank is a mistake, but the Palestinians aren't helping that by refusing to become an actual nation themselves. Remaining in a limbo in refugee status where Israel has some control over the West Bank--enough to allow settlements--is a horrendous mistake on the part of Palestinian leaders.
In the past, Palestinians threw rocks and Israeli soldiers responded with bullets.
Now it has grown into bombs on both sides.

They use perpetual starvation and isolation as a weapon, but it doesn't matter what gestures they make. They will be rejected due to the insistance that Israel should not exist at all.

This is never going to be resolved. Should Israel make an attempt to allow Palestine to flourish if they can oust terrorists from their ranks? Does anyone think that Israel's neighbors will suddenly recognize them?
 
In the past, Palestinians threw rocks and Israeli soldiers responded with bullets.
Now it has grown into bombs on both sides.

They use perpetual starvation and isolation as a weapon, but it doesn't matter what gestures they make. They will be rejected due to the insistance that Israel should not exist at all.

This is never going to be resolved. Should Israel make an attempt to allow Palestine to flourish if they can oust terrorists from their ranks? Does anyone think that Israel's neighbors will suddenly recognize them?

Why did you forget the suicide bombings? List of Palestinian suicide attacks

How many wars have the Arabs started against Israel with the support of the Palestinians?

https://www.britannica.com/event/Arab-Israeli-wars
Arab-Israeli wars
 
That sums it up, but trump getting out of the Iran agreement re. uranium enrichment was stupidity.

A common theme throughout his tenure.

Wrong. Obama getting into that stupidity was. You never coddle terrorists. Obama coddled terrorists. He piled money on Iran assuming--idiotically--that criminal terrorists would keep their word. Biden did the same thing.

Iran needs a boot on its neck, not a pile of dollar bills as a bribe to be good.

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Incompetent Trump sowed the seeds for this disaster, and is now blaming Biden, which is typical Trump.

No American president caused Hamas’ surprise assault across the Gaza border that killed over 900 Israelis—mostly in deliberate, brutal attacks on civilians, including 260 at a music festival—and kidnapping about 150 more. But U.S. policy, especially the Trump administration’s, contributed to the unsustainable situation that made an outbreak of violence more likely


Trump shifted U.S. policy fully in Israel’s favor—reducing support for the Palestinians and treating their quest for statehood as something that could be ignored—and shaped the regional context by heightening confrontation with Iran without strategic benefit.


https://news.yahoo.com/trump-overrated-peace-plan-helped-190655662.html

trump has proven he can be manipulated by every evil dictator and military strongman in the world - from Putin, to Xi to Erdogan to Hamas.
 
It's funny how these idiots blame Trump for Hamas' unprovoked bombing of Israel when nothing happened during HIS 4 year term.
Biden showed weakness with the Afgan withdraw fiasco, which emboldened ours, and our allies enemies.
 
It's funny how these idiots blame Trump for Hamas' unprovoked bombing of Israel when nothing happened during HIS 4 year term.
Biden showed weakness with the Afgan withdraw fiasco, which emboldened ours, and our allies enemies.
Your memory is flawed. FWIW, just because it's not on Fox News, OANN or Trump's Twitter feed doesn't mean it didn't happen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel
2017
Main article: List of Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel, 2017
The Israeli military reported that 35 rockets and mortars were launched from the Gaza Strip in 2017, the vast majority of them in December.[125] This wave of rocket attacks came amid Palestinian outrage over the United States government decision to move its embassy in Israel to Jerusalem. The rockets did not cause any fatalities or serious injuries.[129] The Israeli military attributed the attacks to Palestinian Islamic Jihad and other Salafi groups.[129][130] Israel retaliated to the attacks by striking Hamas positions, causing two deaths.[129] Hamas conducted a series of arrests of Salafi militants it said were responsible for rocket attacks.[129][130]

2018
Main article: List of Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel, 2018
Hundreds of rockets were fired at Israel during the Gaza-Israel clashes of November 2018. As of 13 November 2018 at least one civilian fatality has been reported in Ashkelon, with 70 reported as wounded. The man who was killed was a Palestinian who had moved to Israel from occupied Hebron.[131][132]

The Iron dome has successfully intercepted around 100 of the 370 rockets that have been fired. After the attacks, the IDF announced that it had struck over 100 targets in the Gaza Strip including a weapons factory, munitions warehouse and Hamas' Public Security offices. Hamas responded to the air strikes by making additional threats against Be'er Sheva and Ashdod.[132] The attacks had a significant effect on businesses in southern Israel as restaurant patrons cancelled their reservations. The finance minister announced that Israeli businesses in certain regions would be compensated for losses. All schools within 40 km of Gaza were closed; the Israel Tax Authority has promised compensation to parents who were unable to go to work because they had to stay home with their children.[133]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel_in_2019
This is a list of Palestinian rocket and mortar attacks on Israel in 2019. All of the attacks originated in the Gaza Strip, unless stated otherwise. This list does not include reports of deaths and injuries caused by Hamas rocket and mortar attacks that fell within Gaza.

March
On 14 March 2019, two rockets were launched from the Gaza Strip towards Tel Aviv.[1] The incident was the first rocket strike against Tel Aviv since the 2014 Israel–Gaza conflict.[2][3][4] One rocket was intercepted by the Iron Dome.[5]

On 25 March 2019, a rocket was launched from Gaza and hit a house in Mishmeret injuring seven people.[6] The rocket was probably a domestically produced J80 rocket, and flew some 120 kilometers from Rafah in the south of Gaza to Mishmeret,[7] along with incendiary balloons.[8]

May
Further information: Gaza–Israel clashes (May 2019)
During the first week of May, 600 rockets were fired at Israel by Hamas or other terrorist organizations. The escalations started after 50 rockets were fired at Israel from Gaza on 4 May. Three Israelis were killed by the rockets and more than 100 Israeli civilians were injured.[9]

June
Following five weeks of quiet, a barrage of incendiary balloons on 12 June sparked 6 wildfires and damaged farmlands. Another balloon carried a bomb which exploded over an Israeli city but didn't cause injuries. In response, Israel announced a naval closure that would prevent fishermen from sailing out of Gaza. In retaliation the following night, several missiles were launched from Gaza: one was intercepted by Iron Dome over a city in the Eshkol Region, while a later missile during the day struck a yeshivah in Sderot and caused major damage but no injuries. Israel then bombed a Hamas underground facility in the southern Gaza Strip.[10]

September
Seven Palestinian civilians were wounded after a rocket was launched from Gaza Strip that fell short, hitting a house in the Strip.[11]

November
Further information: Gaza–Israel clashes (November 2019)
On 12 November, the Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) fired 190 rockets into Israel from the Gaza Strip, including long-range rockets fired towards Tel Aviv, leading to several civilians being wounded.[12][13] This was in response to the targeted killing by Israel of senior PIJ commander Baha Abu al-Ata in Gaza. In response, Israel carried out airstrikes and artillery shelling in the Gaza Strip, killing and wounding several militants as well as civilians.[14][15]

One of the rockets hit Palestinian Independent Commission for Human Rights (ICHR) in Gaza after going astray from the launcher.[16]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel_in_2020
This is a list of Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel in 2020. All of the attacks originated in the Gaza Strip, unless stated otherwise. This list does not include reports of deaths and injuries caused by Hamas rocket and mortar attacks that fell within Gaza.

January
On 15 January, four rockets were launched at Israel. Two rockets were intercepted by the Iron Dome and two fell in open fields. Israeli air strikes targeted Hamas posts.[1]

February
After the near-daily rocket and mortar attacks over two weeks, also with the launch of dozens of balloon-borne explosive devices, Israeli politicians threatened a harsh military response if attacks continued.[2] On February 5, the military reduced the permitted Gaza fishing zone to 10 nautical miles and canceled some 500 travel permits.[3]

On 16 February, at least two rockets were fired at southern Israel, apparently hitting open fields and causing no injuries. In response, Israeli airstrikes in the Gaza Strip targeted Hamas installations.[4]

On 23 February, in response to the killing of Muhammad al-Na'im and the subsequent desecration of his corpse by an Israeli army bulldozer Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) fired over 21 rockets from Gaza of which 13 were intercepted by the Iron Dome defense system. Israel retaliated by airstrikes on PIJ sites in Gaza.[5] Israel also closed the fishing zone in the Gaza Strip. According to The Jerusalem Post, nearly 100 rockets were fired from 23 February until 11 pm on 24 February. In response, Israel attacked PIJ targets near Damascus, Syria, killing Ziad Ahmad Mansour, 23 and Salim Ahmad Salim, 24 of the Al-Quds Brigades, as well as in Gaza.[6] On 26 February, the Erez and Kerem Shalom border crossings were reopened and the fishing zone reopened.[7]

May
On 5 May, one rocket was fired from Gaza at Israeli communities near the border for the first time in over 40 days.[8]

June
On 15 June, one rocket was fired into southern Israel, striking an empty field, causing no injuries or damage.

On 26 June, two rockets were fired from Gaza that caused no injuries or damage.

July
On 5 July, two rockets hit open terrain in southern Israel, and no casualties or damage were reported. A third was intercepted by Israeli air defense.

August
On 2 August, one rocket fired from Gaza was intercepted by Iron Dome.

On 16 August, two rockets were intercepted by air defense batteries. The municipality of Sderot said that one house had been hit by shrapnel. An Israeli man of 58 was lightly injured by broken glass and a house near Sderot had taken a direct hit from a rocket. Only property was damaged.[8]

On 21 August, at least 12 rockets were fired from the Gaza Strip into Israel. One landed near a house in Sderot on Friday, causing extensive damage.

September
On 15 September, the Iron Dome missile defense system intercepted eight of 13 rockets. At least two people were injured and several cars damaged by shrapnel near a mall in Ashdod. Six pedestrians also were injured as panicked shoppers ran for shelters.[8]

October
On 16 October, one rocket was fired from Gaza which apparently exploded in an open field.

On 22 October, two rockets were fired toward Ashkelon. One rocket fell in an open field, while the second was intercepted by the Iron Dome system.

November
On 14 November, two rockets were fired toward Ashdod and Kibbutz Palmachim. There were no reports of damage or injuries.

On 21 November, one rocket was fired toward Ashkelon.

December
On 26 December, two rockets were intercepted over Ashkelon.[8]
 
A 2 state solution is the only potential answer for peace. Bibi is against it. Trump was against it.

the important thing to remember is that the Palestinians were against it......remember when it was offered and they turned it down?.....finally Isael gave it unilaterally......didn't turn out so well....
 
You are misinformed and do not read enough to know it. You believe. You are a child, so simple and so predictable.

so maybe you can tell me how it's smart to send all the jobs away with globalization idiocy.

can you tell me?

some paid shills said so?

embracing corruption doesn't make you an adult, it makes you a bad person.
 
Wrong. Obama getting into that stupidity was. You never coddle terrorists. Obama coddled terrorists. He piled money on Iran assuming--idiotically--that criminal terrorists would keep their word. Biden did the same thing.

Iran needs a boot on its neck, not a pile of dollar bills as a bribe to be good.
It's cute that you were almost capable of carrying on a discussion without resorting to idiotic talking points.

Now you're back to your nonsense.

We had inspectors inside Iran to make sure they weren't enriching uranium. We had a foundation for encouraging a primitive govt. to enjoy free trade with all of the world. Then the impotent orange fool had to compensate for his sexual shortcomings.
 
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