US experienced staggering growth in solar and wind power over the last decade.

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US experienced staggering growth in solar and wind power over the last decade

https://apple.news/Ans1YJY_rRHGlvVjRnIkPQA

Renewables have grown at a staggering rate since 2014 and now account for 22 percent of the nation’s electricity. Solar alone has grown an impressive eightfold in 10 years.

The sun and the wind have been the country’s fastest growing sources of energy over the past decade, according to a report released by the nonprofit Climate Central on Wednesday. Meanwhile, coal power has declined sharply, and the use of methane to generate electricity has all but leveled off. With the Inflation Reduction Act poised to kick that growth curve higher with expanded tax credits for manufacturing and installing photovoltaic panels and wind turbines, the most optimistic projections suggest that the country is getting ever closer to achieving its 2030 and 2035 clean energy goals.

“I think the rate at which renewables have been able to grow is just something that most people don’t recognize,” said Amanda Levin, director of policy analysis at the Natural Resources Defense Council, who was not involved in preparing the report.
In the decade analyzed by Climate Central, solar went from generating less than half a percent of the nation’s electricity to producing nearly 4 percent. In that same period, wind grew from 4 percent to roughly 10. Once hydropower, geothermal, and biomass are accounted for, nearly a quarter of the nation’s grid was powered by renewable electricity in 2023, with the share only expected to rise thanks to the continued surge in solar.
The vast majority of the nation’s solar capacity comes from utility-scale installations with at least one megawatt of capacity (enough to power over a hundred homes, according to the Solar Energy Industries Association). But panels installed on rooftops, parking lots, and other comparatively small sites contributed a combined 48,000 megawatts across the country.
“One thing that surprised a lot of different people who’ve read the report in our office was the strength of small-scale solar,” said Jen Brady, the lead analyst on the Climate Central report.
With residential and other small arrays accounting for 34 percent of the nation’s available capacity, “it lets you know that maybe you could do something in your community, in your home that can help contribute to it,” Brady said.
Still, the buildout of utility-scale solar farms continues to set the pace for how rapidly renewable energy can feed the country’s grid.

MAGA soils diapers.
 
US experienced staggering growth in solar and wind power over the last decade

https://apple.news/Ans1YJY_rRHGlvVjRnIkPQA

Renewables have grown at a staggering rate since 2014 and now account for 22 percent of the nation’s electricity. Solar alone has grown an impressive eightfold in 10 years.

The sun and the wind have been the country’s fastest growing sources of energy over the past decade, according to a report released by the nonprofit Climate Central on Wednesday. Meanwhile, coal power has declined sharply, and the use of methane to generate electricity has all but leveled off. With the Inflation Reduction Act poised to kick that growth curve higher with expanded tax credits for manufacturing and installing photovoltaic panels and wind turbines, the most optimistic projections suggest that the country is getting ever closer to achieving its 2030 and 2035 clean energy goals.

“I think the rate at which renewables have been able to grow is just something that most people don’t recognize,” said Amanda Levin, director of policy analysis at the Natural Resources Defense Council, who was not involved in preparing the report.
In the decade analyzed by Climate Central, solar went from generating less than half a percent of the nation’s electricity to producing nearly 4 percent. In that same period, wind grew from 4 percent to roughly 10. Once hydropower, geothermal, and biomass are accounted for, nearly a quarter of the nation’s grid was powered by renewable electricity in 2023, with the share only expected to rise thanks to the continued surge in solar.
The vast majority of the nation’s solar capacity comes from utility-scale installations with at least one megawatt of capacity (enough to power over a hundred homes, according to the Solar Energy Industries Association). But panels installed on rooftops, parking lots, and other comparatively small sites contributed a combined 48,000 megawatts across the country.
“One thing that surprised a lot of different people who’ve read the report in our office was the strength of small-scale solar,” said Jen Brady, the lead analyst on the Climate Central report.
With residential and other small arrays accounting for 34 percent of the nation’s available capacity, “it lets you know that maybe you could do something in your community, in your home that can help contribute to it,” Brady said.
Still, the buildout of utility-scale solar farms continues to set the pace for how rapidly renewable energy can feed the country’s grid.

MAGA soils diapers.

Crowing about your subsidies and mandates isn't going to work, Sock. All you've done is make electricity more expensive.

Oil and natural gas are renewable energy too, Sock, and it's a LOT cheaper to generate electricity that way than solar or wind.
 
US utility bills have gone up an average of 26.4% in the same time, with a staggering 70% of that occurring since Biden took office. Solar and wind will bankrupt people with the high cost of energy they produce.

More solar and wind = increasingly unaffordable energy

https://www.statista.com/statistics/201714/growth-in-us-residential-electricity-prices-since-2000/

Solar, followed by wind are the two WORST ways to produce energy there are today.

I notice you don't address the WHY?

WHY have US utility bills gone up recently?
 
That is incorrect.

Care to try again?

It is correct. There are several things that drive that result.

First, and foremost, wind and solar are not constant output sources. They are highly variable intermittent sources. This means you have to have a heavily redundant set of sources that can be put online or taken off line quickly. It also makes them unsuitable for base loading.

In simplest terms, solar and wind don't eliminate the need for power plants that operate in a steady state like coal, nuclear, or natural gas. Instead, they act as supplements to these. The problem is when you have lots of wind and solar, there are numerous times where they are producing too little or too much. Both situations are bad but too much is worse.

What happens when solar and wind either under- or over-produce, is that other generation systems have to either be idled or taken offline, or have to be ramped up to make up the difference. The result is that the cost of these plants idling drives up the cost of a KWH. When solar and wind over produce, it can often be a case of having to dump electricity at below production cost to just do something with it. This is made up for by charging more when there are shortages to average out the price of a KWH.

Thus, in Germany, a world leader in wind and solar use, they're having to build more coal plants to make up for the variation in output from wind and solar along with having shutdown their nuclear plants that produced clean energy but the Left hated. Germany now has one of the highest per KWH costs in the world. Australia, another leader in solar in particular, is experiencing the exact same thing.

California and Texas are having issues with having too much solar and wind in their generation mix.

Storage isn't an answer either. The cost of storage, along with the need for excess generation capacity to fill it, makes it unaffordable on a large scale.

The whole is driving energy prices up, not down.
 
It is correct. There are several things that drive that result.

First, and foremost, wind and solar are not constant output sources. They are highly variable intermittent sources. This means you have to have a heavily redundant set of sources that can be put online or taken off line quickly. It also makes them unsuitable for base loading.

In simplest terms, solar and wind don't eliminate the need for power plants that operate in a steady state like coal, nuclear, or natural gas. Instead, they act as supplements to these. The problem is when you have lots of wind and solar, there are numerous times where they are producing too little or too much. Both situations are bad but too much is worse.

What happens when solar and wind either under- or over-produce, is that other generation systems have to either be idled or taken offline, or have to be ramped up to make up the difference. The result is that the cost of these plants idling drives up the cost of a KWH. When solar and wind over produce, it can often be a case of having to dump electricity at below production cost to just do something with it. This is made up for by charging more when there are shortages to average out the price of a KWH.

Thus, in Germany, a world leader in wind and solar use, they're having to build more coal plants to make up for the variation in output from wind and solar along with having shutdown their nuclear plants that produced clean energy but the Left hated. Germany now has one of the highest per KWH costs in the world. Australia, another leader in solar in particular, is experiencing the exact same thing.

California and Texas are having issues with having too much solar and wind in their generation mix.

Storage isn't an answer either. The cost of storage, along with the need for excess generation capacity to fill it, makes it unaffordable on a large scale.

The whole is driving energy prices up, not down.

Oh, so NOW it's "there are SEVERAL THINGS that drive that result".

At least now you're getting closer.

There ARE several reasons why energy prices continue to rise.

Energy company greed.

Higher fuel costs for power plants drove the increase in residential retail electricity prices. The cost of fossil fuels—natural gas, coal, and petroleum—delivered to U.S. power plants increased 34% from 2021 to 2022

Even when the price drops, as in natural gas, which has plummeted more than 30% year to date.

However, the cost of renewables like solar and wind are nominal and have a minimal effect on any price increase.
 
Oh, so NOW it's "there are SEVERAL THINGS that drive that result".

At least now you're getting closer.

There ARE several reasons why energy prices continue to rise.

Energy company greed.

Higher fuel costs for power plants drove the increase in residential retail electricity prices. The cost of fossil fuels—natural gas, coal, and petroleum—delivered to U.S. power plants increased 34% from 2021 to 2022

Even when the price drops, as in natural gas, which has plummeted more than 30% year to date.

However, the cost of renewables like solar and wind are nominal and have a minimal effect on any price increase.

I never said it just one thing, but wind and solar are a major contributor to increasing costs. Want to see a major price hike in KWH? Wait until California closes Diablo Canyon. That state already has the highest per KWH cost in the US and it's primarily due to increasing use of wind and solar. In fact, during the summer, it has become common for California to produce too much solar for demand and as a result, the state pays other states to take the excess.

California companies are generating so much solar power that firms in other states are getting paid to take it.
The state has been forced into the arrangement to "avoid overloading its own power lines", according to the Los Angeles Times.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-40434392

California Is Generating So Much Solar Energy, It's Paying Other States to Take It
https://www.treehugger.com/californ...nergy-its-paying-other-states-take-it-4866228

Germany experiences the same thing, only there, countries like Poland and France are increasingly disconnecting from Germany's grid to stop Germany from dumping power on them. That in turn disrupts Germany's grid with increasing frequency.
 
How did we arrive at a place where common-sense, clean energy sources became a partisan issue?

Conservatives are 100% dedicated. I'll give them that. They hate alternative sources of energy, and really commit themselves to hoping all sources like that fail.

For who knows what reason.
 
How did we arrive at a place where common-sense, clean energy sources became a partisan issue?

Conservatives are 100% dedicated. I'll give them that. They hate alternative sources of energy, and really commit themselves to hoping all sources like that fail.

For who knows what reason.

Because the common sense clean energy sources are nuclear and natural gas. Solar and wind are losers.
 
It is correct. There are several things that drive that result.

First, and foremost, wind and solar are not constant output sources. They are highly variable intermittent sources. This means you have to have a heavily redundant set of sources that can be put online or taken off line quickly. It also makes them unsuitable for base loading.

In simplest terms, solar and wind don't eliminate the need for power plants that operate in a steady state like coal, nuclear, or natural gas. Instead, they act as supplements to these. The problem is when you have lots of wind and solar, there are numerous times where they are producing too little or too much. Both situations are bad but too much is worse.

What happens when solar and wind either under- or over-produce, is that other generation systems have to either be idled or taken offline, or have to be ramped up to make up the difference. The result is that the cost of these plants idling drives up the cost of a KWH. When solar and wind over produce, it can often be a case of having to dump electricity at below production cost to just do something with it. This is made up for by charging more when there are shortages to average out the price of a KWH.

Thus, in Germany, a world leader in wind and solar use, they're having to build more coal plants to make up for the variation in output from wind and solar along with having shutdown their nuclear plants that produced clean energy but the Left hated. Germany now has one of the highest per KWH costs in the world. Australia, another leader in solar in particular, is experiencing the exact same thing.

California and Texas are having issues with having too much solar and wind in their generation mix.

Storage isn't an answer either. The cost of storage, along with the need for excess generation capacity to fill it, makes it unaffordable on a large scale.

The whole is driving energy prices up, not down.

I've explained this many times to the hand model but it's truly pointless, it's like explaining a 3D world to two dimensional cardboard cutout.
 
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