Were Confederate soldiers terrorists?

T&A said:
3) Lincoln didn't do it to secure black support, but because the attitude of the public had shifted. The shock of so much bloodshed gave the people the need for a moral crusade, and the lack of victories coupled with the death toll was viewed by many as a judgement from God. The draw at Antietam, which the North declared a victory, was viewed as the perfect timing to officially change the tone of the war effort.

4) Completely wrong. If not for slavery, the Southern economy would have been organized in a very different way. Pretending that under these circumstances that it still would wind up seceeding, and assuming that it organized its economy under a strong, diversified, industrial-based system, the North would have had a MUCH less likely chance of winning the war.
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The other more cynical reason that Lincoln issued the EP was to moralize the war in the minds of the Brits and the French, who considered more direct support of the South until Lincoln "made" it about slavery.
 
Socrtease said:
And Christians were murderers and torturers at one time. So the fuck what?
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What are you trying to do? Have people be unconcerned about bad things done by people who are all dead & gone? You want to have the political spectrum ignore the details of incidents from the 19th century?


Yeah, me too. But I doubt it will happen.
 
Southern Man said:
Systemically?
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Yes Systemically, when you consider the loss of life during the inquisition and then the witch hunts, especially in Europe where between 50 and 80k people were killed for being witches. Christianity as an institution was particularly violent.
 
Socrtease said:
Yes Systemically, when you consider the loss of life during the inquisition and then the witch hunts, especially in Europe where between 50 and 80k people were killed for being witches. Christianity as an institution was particularly violent.
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The Inquisition was to push back the Islamic hordes who invaded Europe, back to their original lands in the Middle East. That's not systemic murder and torture- it's war.
 
Southern Man said:
The Inquisition was to push back the Islamic hordes who invaded Europe, back to their original lands in the Middle East. That's not systemic murder and torture- it's war.
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Only a fundementalist facist Christian thinks catholics didn't kill in the name of God throughout History.
 
Southern Man said:
The Inquisition was to push back the Islamic hordes who invaded Europe, back to their original lands in the Middle East. That's not systemic murder and torture- it's war.
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That may have been the excuse for beginning the Inquisition, but it quickly became a tool of the church for torture and murder.
 
signalmankenneth said:
http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/04/11/martin.confederate.extremist/index.html?hpt=C1
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Some where, like Cantrell's raiders, but there were Northern Terrorist too.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
That's an odd claim considering Washington was both a Mason and a Deist.
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Mason, yes; Deist, no.

“All chaplains are to perform divine service tomorrow, and on every succeeding Sunday…. The commander in chief expects an exact compliance with this order, and that it be observed in future as an invariable rule of practice—and every neglect will be considered not only a breach of orders, but a disregard to decency, virtue and religion.”
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Head-Quarters, Middle Brook, June 28, 1777.

“While we are zealously performing the duties of good citizens and soldiers we certainly ought not to be inattentive to the higher duties of religion. To the distinguished character of patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian.”
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Head Quarters, V. Forge, Saturday, May 2, 1778.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
That's an odd claim considering Washington was both a Mason and a Deist.
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Was a "Deist" some kind of religious fanatic? Because I found the following quotes from Washington:

“It is impossible to rightly govern a nation without God and the Bible.”

“Let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.”

“The propitious smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right which Heaven itself has ordained”

“I am sure that never was a people, who had more reason to acknowledge a Divine interposition in their affairs, than those of the United States; and I should be pained to believe that they have forgotten that agency, which was so often manifested during our Revolution, or that they failed to consider the omnipotence of that God who is alone able to protect them.”

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Now I don't know much about this "Deist" claim, but it sounds like the guy had a strong fondness for God and religion, and felt they were very important to our nation. Can you explain this, or do you want to run away from it and hide, like you always tend to do when someone hands you that ass?
 
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