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FACTS are NOT "spin" my neocon/teabagger toadie! What happened was YOU excerpt parts of the information given and then clamped on YOUR supposition and conjecture to bolster your OPINION. That you choose to continue parroting your willful ignorance speaks towards your stubborn adherence to an ideology that has historically proven not to work.
Nah, I pretty much summarized the entire article down to the last paragraph in one sentence, or did you miss it? You just posted 4 paragraphs that mean the exact same thing as "They get a pat on the back though because every other system sucked royally, and they reacted quicker. They also rolled out a simpler version without as many features." I appreciate the angst though, you apparently are pissed because you posted a half-assed article to symbolize 'Success', and I called you out on it.
You seem hell bent of repeating your disproved supposition and conjecture six ways to Sunday DESPITE having been proven wrong. A true "summary" would touch base on ALL FACTUAL INFORMATION AVAILABLE. All you are doing repeatedly is showing your myopic bias, as I've previously explained. In short, you're just stubborn with nothing else to offer.
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So all you're doing is just bleating the mantra's put out by Fox Noise, the WND, Drudge, etc. while IGNORING what the article reports. No one has contested the problems.....it's just right wing flunkies like you that are screaming "shut it down" because of initial start up problems which have plagued EVERY avenue of internet business from Banks to public utilities to ALL commercial businesses hasn't been fixed in less than 24 hours....but hey, it's Obama, so he's held to an exceptionally higher (if not unreasonable) standard than anything else.
Your Facebook comparison is absurd, because you comparing a FREE chat board with people trying to seek arrangements for their financial/physical well being....the latter given an ALTERNATIVE by being assisted by "exchangers" and using the good old telephone to contact folk. Any fool knows that when it comes to bucks, people will wait to get it right...as they are in Kentucky and other states that are complying with the AHCA.
First, I don't watch any of that crap.
A lie, because you parrot the EXACT same mantras and use the EXACT same debating tactics. It's all a bunch of over-bloated idiots with a bias.
then you should check yourself, toodles, because you are a firm acolyte.I never once said 'SHUT IT DOWN!' either.
But that was the logical conclusion of your tirades, toodles. Let's see you back peddle out of this one. I think that would be a mistake, now that the ball is rolling, even if I do disagree. Problems happen in tech all the time, but you pointed out a 'successful' roll-out, that wasn't as successful as you seem to believe.
A distortion on your part, as I pointed out the successes of the program in Kentucky in SPITE of all the problems. YOU bitched about some minor set backs and are now trying to BS your way out of it because I schooled you on how well the program is working there. You went from parroting
Don't steal my writing style, toodles...you don't have the skill or intellectual honesty to do so. how great the roll-out was to being pissed off because, once again, I called you out for wondering where the success was in what you had given.
Once again, you're lying....as the chronology of the post shows. And you're STILL in denial of how well the program is working in Kentucky...like any typical neocon/teabagger flunkie. Instead of debating with me on the merits of the article you posted, you've decided to hurl insults and generalize me into a group.
Again, a lie...as the chronology of the post shows, it is YOU who REFUSE to acknowledge ALL THE INFORMATION presented in the article, and how I demonstrated your idiocy in harping about only so many people registering in ONE AFTERNOON.
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Stop acting stupid, will ya please? You keep repeating an empty mantra that was already disproven.....typical Drudge headline..ignore the WHOLE truth and keep repeating an out of context quote coupled with supposition and conjecture. In one afternoon in October, 7K got the service they wanted despite the problems....little neocon/teabagger parrots like YOU won't DARE look into how many have done so since. So I'll just ignore your intellectual cowardice and put forth the FACTS:
As of Friday morning, 96,968 Kentuckians— nearly a fifth of the state’s half-a-million uninsured people–are now covered thanks to Obamacare, a state official told msnbc.
As the first deadline for coverage approaches—to be covered by Jan. 1, you must enroll by Dec. 23—the rate of enrollment is up by 62% from before Thanksgiving, according to Jill Midkiff, director of communications for Kentucky’s Cabinet for Health and Family Services. That’s a jump from the 40% surge from before Thankskgiving the state announced last week.
Perhaps the most promising number: 40% of all enrollees are under 35. That’s crucial, because getting healthy, younger Americans into the health care law’s exchanges is key to the law’s long-term success.
http://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/ken...ollment-surges
But do continue to parrot with your blinders on, toodles....just as we all have come to expect. Rush would be proud of ya!
The Facebook comparison is simply an example of my point. If users have problems with the technology, the adoption rate of that technology is reduced. People will flock away from that technology simply because they expect it to work. It becomes even harder for users to accept a piece of technology if the very first time they've used it, it breaks. They simply will find an alternative method or competing site. Facebook was an easy to use example, but even then so, it's FREE! So it highlights how users react to even non-important pieces of technology. So in general, the website was not a success. It broke down, and the only success story that could be garnered from the articles you had given was that they 'quickly' fixed the issue. Even then, you could argue that they clearly had the resources at their disposal to begin with, to get it right the first time if they could turn around a fix that quickly. Good load-testing up front could have prevented a break.
All you've done is just repeat a folly. Bottom line: by your "standard" the internet would be vastly REDUCED in usage by businesses, corporations, etc. But low and behold, it's not. Why? Because it depends upon what is being offered, public demand and WHO is footing the bill. Facebook runs solely on ADVERTISING, so minor glitches and such are not going to easily dissuade them from potentially millions of customers WHO ARE JUST EXCHANGING WORDS, PHOTOS AND SONGS. The AHCA is a PUBLIC SERVICE OFFERING FINANCIAL AID AND ALTERNATIVE INSURANCE.
Big difference to those who are not wearing neocon/teabagger blinders.
Don't call me stupid for your own apparent upfront laziness. You posted an article highlighting the fact that 7000 people received insurance, and a quickly fixed website were 'success' stories. That was simply lazy on your end to point out success, because it clearly was not success. I was simply debating you on what you provided. Why should I care that more people have signed up since? I wasn't debating you on the merits of ACA itself, I was debating you on what you provided as evidence of success. I won't call you a 'typical liberal', because I realize there are a lot of smart liberals out there, and I'd hate to associate you with them. You are more of the 'bait and switch' type of person, where once you are called out, you switch to a different argument to try and make yourself correct.
My, but you are stupid if you think you can BS your way past your documented folly. YOU keep repeating some myopic bullshit as to how YOU rate "success", which belies logic and the very HISTORY of how the successful the AHCA in Kentucky is....so much so that it's causing a problem for the GOP "shut it down" actions in Congress. I never changed my statements, in fact, I FURTHER DOCUMENTED THEM. All you've done is blather your opinion, supposition and conjecture as if they are FACT, which as the chronology of the posts shows, are not.
You're also very sore when people call you out on your laziness in providing examples.
Only in your fevered little mind, toodles. You can dish it out, but you can't take it. Had you provided this argument:
"I noticed that when Mitch McConnell and Rand Paul were on the recent Sunday talk shows flapping their gums with the usual anti-Obama rhetoric, they failed to mention the SUCCESS of Obamacare in their home state....and the so called "liberal media" failed to bring it up! Hmmmm, I wonder why? "
followed by:
"Since Obamacare has been implemented, a little over 16% of the uninsured Kentuckians are now insured"
This would have been a totally different debate. One I might even refrain from commenting on. There is still time left before the deadline, but that number is still low. There are a lot of procrastinators.. yeah I wouldn't really have much of an opinion yet. I just know that still isn't success, but it's looking better than what you provided, for certain!
Ahhh, but as usual YOU leave out the additional information I've provided, toodles....which is why I didn't state what YOU WANT to see as the ONLY facts surrounding this issue. As the chronology of the posts shows, you just keep doing the SOS and hope that no one notices.
So toodles, next time you open your trap about 'success' stories, back it up a little better. Oh, and fuck fat ass Rush!
