What GOP leadership thinks of YOU!

[Taichiliberal]

VIDEO: John Boehner’s excellent “So be it” flip flop
http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2011/02/17/video-john-boehners-excellent-so-be-it-flip-flop/





Rep. Steve King To Workers: Your "Labor Is A Commodity Just Like Corn Or Beans"


http://politicalcorrection.org/blog/201106020015



So when you teabaggers and neocons and oathers and birthers and threepers (and a few Libertarians) cast your vote/support for the GOP, just remember that THEY DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT YOU AS HUMAN BEING....YOU ARE A COMMODITY. THEY DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT YOU IF YOU'RE A FEDERAL EMPLOYEE....YOU MUST BE SACRIFICED FOR THE BUSH TAX CUTS/RYAN BUDGET.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

you're seriously deluded if you think for a single nanosecond that your precious democrat politicians consider you anything else but a commodity as well.

 

[Taichiliberal]

you're seriously deluded if you think for a single nanosecond that your precious democrat politicians consider you anything else but a commodity as well.

I'm am merely reacting to and pointing to what your precious neocon GOP leadership feels comfortable telling you to your face, and making propsals and actions in that vein.

When the Dems take the same attitude, I will criticize them accordingly.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

I'm am merely reacting to and pointing to what your precious neocon GOP leadership feels comfortable telling you to your face, and making propsals and actions in that vein.

When the Dems take the same attitude, I will criticize them accordingly.

you also undermine your credibility by continually grouping me in with others who believe in the precious GOP leadership. You've seen enough of my posts by now to know I do not beholden myself to leaders of either party, right?

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
I'm am merely reacting to and pointing to what your precious neocon GOP leadership feels comfortable telling you to your face, and making propsals and actions in that vein.

When the Dems take the same attitude, I will criticize them accordingly.

you also undermine your credibility by continually grouping me in with others who believe in the precious GOP leadership. You've seen enough of my posts by now to know I do not beholden myself to leaders of either party, right?

Quite frankly, your professed libertarian/oather/threeper/whatever BS makes your credibility a fucking joke in my book....as I've caught you supporting or mouthing the same platitudes of the neocon driven GOP on several occasions. I really don't give a good God damn as to how I rate with you, STY...that YOU automatically assumed that I have blind faith in the Dems just because I accurately criticized the GOP shows just how short sighted and biased YOU are. That you cannot just acknowledge that I am right on this one point lends support to what I'm saying here...unless you have the stones to actually agree with me.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Quite frankly, your professed libertarian/oather/threeper/whatever BS makes your credibility a fucking joke in my book....as I've caught you supporting or mouthing the same platitudes of the neocon driven GOP on several occasions. I really don't give a good God damn as to how I rate with you, STY...that YOU automatically assumed that I have blind faith in the Dems just because I accurately criticized the GOP shows just how short sighted and biased YOU are. That you cannot just acknowledge that I am right on this one point lends support to what I'm saying here...unless you have the stones to actually agree with me.

please provide proof of the above bolded statement.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Quite frankly, your professed libertarian/oather/threeper/whatever BS makes your credibility a fucking joke in my book....as I've caught you supporting or mouthing the same platitudes of the neocon driven GOP on several occasions. I really don't give a good God damn as to how I rate with you, STY...that YOU automatically assumed that I have blind faith in the Dems just because I accurately criticized the GOP shows just how short sighted and biased YOU are. That you cannot just acknowledge that I am right on this one point lends support to what I'm saying here...unless you have the stones to actually agree with me.

please provide proof of the above bolded statement.

Perfect example....this thread. Are you in agreement with me or with the two Republican's statments in the video clips? Just give a straight forward, no uncertain terms answer please.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Perfect example....this thread. Are you in agreement with me or with the two Republican's statments in the video clips? Just give a straight forward, no uncertain terms answer please.

I've long been of the mindset that the republicans AND democrats could care less about you or me and that all of us simple civilians are nothing more than commodities to move or decline an economy at will. If what you're looking for is either a 'only republicans' or 'only democrats' answer, you'll not hear it from me. they both hate us.

 

[Taichiliberal]

I've long been of the mindset that the republicans AND democrats could care less about you or me and that all of us simple civilians are nothing more than commodities to move or decline an economy at will. If what you're looking for is either a 'only republicans' or 'only democrats' answer, you'll not hear it from me. they both hate us.

Again, I am merely pointing out what comes out of the mouths of the GOP leadership. Should the Dem leadership mouth the same platitudes, I will criticize them accordingly. This is not an instance of partisanship, but a matter of FACT.... because what is posted here contradicts the GOP's current mantras of trying to protect the people's jobs when they go after Obama.

Again, YOU cannot just staddle the fence with a generalized statement......nor can you misinterpret what I posted as a partisan attack. It's not about your contentions, but what they are saying for the record. If you don't have the stones to say in no uncertain terms, "I agree with you here, the GOP is full of it" without producing a similar clip or quote to support your subsequent "but the Dems are just as bad" rap, then you're just blowing smoke.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Again, I am merely pointing out what comes out of the mouths of the GOP leadership. Should the Dem leadership mouth the same platitudes, I will criticize them accordingly. This is not an instance of partisanship, but a matter of FACT.... because what is posted here contradicts the GOP's current mantras of trying to protect the people's jobs when they go after Obama.

Again, YOU cannot just staddle the fence with a generalized statement......nor can you misinterpret what I posted as a partisan attack. It's not about your contentions, but what they are saying for the record. If you don't have the stones to say in no uncertain terms, "I agree with you here, the GOP is full of it" without producing a similar clip or quote to support your subsequent "but the Dems are just as bad" rap, then you're just blowing smoke.

and you can't figure out that I don't like the dems or the reps with nearly every post I make? I hate both parties. they do not represent me. how many posts have I been criticized about by the hardcore lefties and righties for picking apart their bullshit? If it's a matter of you needing me to say 'I agree with you that the GOP thinks us peons are crap pieces of economic commodity, fine. so be it. So do the dems, if you'd care to remove your blue colored glasses long enough.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Again, I am merely pointing out what comes out of the mouths of the GOP leadership. Should the Dem leadership mouth the same platitudes, I will criticize them accordingly. This is not an instance of partisanship, but a matter of FACT.... because what is posted here contradicts the GOP's current mantras of trying to protect the people's jobs when they go after Obama.

Again, YOU cannot just staddle the fence with a generalized statement......nor can you misinterpret what I posted as a partisan attack. It's not about your contentions, but what they are saying for the record. If you don't have the stones to say in no uncertain terms, "I agree with you here, the GOP is full of it" without producing a similar clip or quote to support your subsequent "but the Dems are just as bad" rap, then you're just blowing smoke.

and you can't figure out that I don't like the dems or the reps with nearly every post I make? I hate both parties. they do not represent me. how many posts have I been criticized about by the hardcore lefties and righties for picking apart their bullshit? If it's a matter of you needing me to say 'I agree with you that the GOP thinks us peons are crap pieces of economic commodity, fine. so be it. So do the dems, if you'd care to remove your blue colored glasses long enough.

As the chronology of the post shows, YOU made the accusation that I was making a partisan attack.

No evidence to back that up.

I explained that what I was posting was a contradiction of the GOP current mantras, and that if the Dems did the same thing in this instance, I'd criticize them too (as I've done starting a few critical posts of Obama on these threads).

All I asked was a straight forward question for an honest answer from you that was a stubborn tooth pull to get.

In this one instance, it's about the GOP, NOT the Dems. If you can't accept that, that's your problem. Don't get pissed at me because I'm right on this instance.

But thank you for FINALLY giving a straight answer.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

As the chronology of the post shows, YOU made the accusation that I was making a partisan attack.

No evidence to back that up.

then maybe you should go back over the chronology of the posts, because I didn't accuse you of a partisan attack, I simply told you that if you thought that democrats didn't think the same thing of you that those republicans did, you were deluded.

I explained that what I was posting was a contradiction of the GOP current mantras, and that if the Dems did the same thing in this instance, I'd criticize them too (as I've done starting a few critical posts of Obama on these threads).

but unlike you, I group all republicans and democrats in the same basket because there is very liittle to no difference between them. you like to lump libertarians, threepers, oathkeepers, and any other non liberal political entity in your worn out neocon patch phrase as they being one in the same. That alone marks you as out of touch with reality.

 

[Rune]

Same shit different pile.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
As the chronology of the post shows, YOU made the accusation that I was making a partisan attack.

No evidence to back that up.

then maybe you should go back over the chronology of the posts, because I didn't accuse you of a partisan attack, I simply told you that if you thought that democrats didn't think the same thing of you that those republicans did, you were deluded.

And since NOTHING in my opening post suggested anything of the sort, YOU obviously made an assumption.

but unlike you, I group all republicans and democrats in the same basket because there is very liittle to no difference between them. you like to lump libertarians, threepers, oathkeepers, and any other non liberal political entity in your worn out neocon patch phrase as they being one in the same. That alone marks you as out of touch with reality.

As the chronology of the posts shows, you already played this record...and I responded accordingly. Seems that once again, I've deconstructed your alleged SmarterThanYou bullshit, and actually got you to stand up like an adult and make a declarative statement. Other than that, STY's got nothing else say except sour grapes. My opening post stands valid.

Oh, and for the record, SmarterThanYou has oather and threeper tagged under his icon and screen name....since he's alluded to libertarian values in the past, it is STY that has "lumped" the ideologies together, not I.

Once again STY demonstrates what a joke his screen name is.

 

[Liberty]

and you can't figure out that I don't like the dems or the reps with nearly every post I make? I hate both parties. they do not represent me. how many posts have I been criticized about by the hardcore lefties and righties for picking apart their bullshit? If it's a matter of you needing me to say 'I agree with you that the GOP thinks us peons are crap pieces of economic commodity, fine. so be it. So do the dems, if you'd care to remove your blue colored glasses long enough.

Taichiliberal Lives in a dem, rep world.

He has no mind outside that world.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Taichiliberal Lives in a dem, rep world.

He has no mind outside that world.

And once again Liberty just ignores posts and responses he doesn't like in order to attack others and facts that don't fit his libertarian mind set. Seems the words of King and Boehner were too much for Liberty's fevered brow to handle.

 

[NOVA]

Labor IS a commodity.....do you have a problem with that fact.....
Labor has always been a commodity...
Labor will always be a commodity.....

Now,.. if your little brain is up to it.....

Labor is not the same thing as "laborer".....it isn't now, it never was, and it never will be.......Labor may be treated as a can of beans, but a laborer is always treated as person of value.

That misnomer being cleared, the rest of your nonsense is just that ....nonsense, bullshit, crap and liberal propaganda used to cloud an issue, push an agenda, and give a semblance of credibility to a mis-characterization.....

 

[Taichiliberal]

Labor IS a commodity.....do you have a problem with that fact.....
Labor has always been a commodity...
Labor will always be a commodity.....

Now,.. if your little brain is up to it.....

Labor is not the same thing as "laborer".....it isn't now, it never was, and it never will be.......Labor may be treated as a can of beans, but a laborer is always treated as person of value.

That misnomer being cleared, the rest of your nonsense is just that ....nonsense, bullshit, crap and liberal propaganda used to cloud an issue, push an agenda, and give a semblance of credibility to a mis-characterization.....

Once again, Bravo barks his insipidly stubborn ignorance from the barstool.

King said what he said......only Bravo would be ignorant enough to try and separate labor from the laborer, because King sure as hell wasn't talking about AI robots doing the work.

Bravo is just what King and Boehner need....willfully ignorant and proud neocon parrots that readily endorse policies against their better interests because neocon politicos drape their heinous agenda with the veil of "Don't let those people win, because they'll take stuff away from you".


Per Merriam-Webster

Commodity

an economic good: as
a : a product of agriculture or mining
b : an article of commerce especially when delivered for shipment <commodities futures>
c : a mass-produced unspecialized product <commodity chemicals> <commodity memory chips>
2a : something useful or valued


"Bravo" indeed!

 

[NOVA]

Once again, Bravo barks his insipidly stubborn ignorance from the barstool.

King said what he said......only Bravo would be ignorant enough to try and separate labor from the laborer, because King sure as hell wasn't talking about AI robots doing the work.

Bravo is just what King and Boehner need....willfully ignorant and proud neocon parrots that readily endorse policies against their better interests because neocon politicos drape their heinous agenda with the veil of "Don't let those people win, because they'll take stuff away from you".


Per Merriam-Webster

Commodity

an economic good: as
a : a product of agriculture or mining
b : an article of commerce especially when delivered for shipment <commodities futures>
c : a mass-produced unspecialized product <commodity chemicals> <commodity memory chips>
2a : something useful or valued


"Bravo" indeed!

Driving up the cost of labor is certainly not in the best interest of the country as a whole.....Labor has value.....and some forms of labor have more value than other forms.....and that value is determined by its difficulty, as in special skills or knowledge required, its danger to the worker as in miner, steelworker, firefighter, etc......, its value to the consumer...doctor and scientist, vs. clerk or stocking shelves and other factors.....

If doctors are plentiful and in abundant supply, their value becomes less even though their skills are demanding.....and the same logic applies in every circumstance.....the most skillful at any trade will obviously be in a position to demand the most return for their talent.....and this is as it should be and I think every honest person will agree with this.......the best grades go to those that earn them and are not shared to underachievers, as TC would want in his perfect socialist society....

This is the commodity side of the equation....
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As for the laborer, the person, the human being......no one deserves to be treated with distain or rancor or resentment or hostility for the labor they are or are not capable of.....
labor and the laborer are two completely different entities.....our value as people is completely separate than our value as to the labor we do.....and we earn those values in completely different ways.....
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Do you understand what you've posted here ?

Commodity

an economic good: as
a : a product of agriculture or mining
b : an article of commerce especially when delivered for shipment <commodities futures>
c : a mass-produced unspecialized product <commodity chemicals> <commodity memory chips>
2a : something useful or valued


Commodity....
an economic good: as something useful or valued (AS A PARTICULAR SKILL)....don't you quite understand this definition ?

 

[Liberty]

And once again Liberty just ignores posts and responses he doesn't like in order to attack others and facts that don't fit his libertarian mind set. Seems the words of King and Boehner were too much for Liberty's fevered brow to handle.

SmarterThanYou stated a fact.

I gave my two cents worth,,,,,,

and now you come up with this nonsense.

What's this, "And once again Liberty just ignores posts and responses he doesn't like in order to attack others and facts that don't fit his libertarian mind set." What does this mean?

I'm responding with either specifics, or agreements.

And what does this statement by you mean? "Seems the words of King and Boehner were too much for Liberty's fevered brow to handle."

What does this have to do with my statement about my agreement with SmarterThanYous statement?

I don't think I've missed anything.

You live with a mindset of there only being the dems and the reps.

I live in a world that has the dems and reps as one,,,, and then there's me. And people like me.(most people.)

What SmarterThanYou said is really being thrown under the bus by you,,,,,

with your statement.