What is more Patirotic.. Fear or Hope?
- Thread starter Jarod
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Screw you, you know what I am saying.
Kamala Trump
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No seriously jarod. Fear and hope both have their place in a patriotic mindset.
Explain how fear is patirotic?
Explain how "hope" is patriotic.
Neither are specifically patriotic. Somebody who has no patriotism whatsoever can speak of hope, while a patriot may fear for the future of the US.
Unless all the "wrong-track" people who "fear that we are creating more enemies" were "unpatriotic".
I belive hope for a better future is what American was founded on, its what the patroits were working for. In order to form "a more perfect union", not a more secure union.
Kamala Trump
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Well, if you're afraid your freedoms are being reduced, or corporate interests are hijacking the nation, this fear may prompt you to raise your concerns and take action to amend what you perceive is wrong.
Okay, good point. But I guess I was talking about fear for personal safety. Stock up on Duct Tape and vote for GWB or you may face a terrorist attack kinda fear.
LOL.
Again.
I can speak of "hope" and not be a patriot, and I can "fear" and be a patriot. Vice versa could also be true. Neither are specifically patriotic. They are simply a way to express rhetoric.
I can hope that people in the US see that saying "change and hope" does not necessarily mean that what is promoted is right.
I can hope that people in the US see that we are losing freedoms to the "Patriot Act".
I can hope that people will see through and vote for somebody other than the two major parties and fear that it won't happen at the same time. I can be a complex human and a patriot at the same time.
Kamala Trump
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Hope can also be patriotic. Some cynics will say the sovereignty of the nation WILL BE eroded and folded into a NEW WORLD ORDER type scenario and that fighting it is hopeless. Hope it is possible gives us the courage to advocate fighting the insanity.
But we agree mostly, neither are specifically patriotic or not patriotic.
HOPE the sovereignty of that nation will be destroyed is not patriotic.
FEAR that the sovereignty will be maintained is also not patriotic.
Maybe I was not obvious enough on my sarcasm. I thought, especally you, knew me well enough to know I am being toung in cheek about this. I belive a term Patroitism is so amorphus it can be manipulated to mean just about anyting. I was just trying to poke fun of those who use it as a political issue. I guess I did not make my point, as I was taken seriously.
<-note, this means this is a joke for BAC and others who cannot tell.
Kamala Trump
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Well if you don't fear a radical religious movement vowed to destroy you, that may just indicate stupidity.
Is stupidity patriotic?
Republicans seem to belive so.
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Fearing people who vow to kill you is not unpatriotic. That is what he said.
It is foolish to ignore their vow to destroy us because you want to seem more "Patriotic"...
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
I do of course understand your question, and in my opinion, using fear to motivatre Americans as opposed to using hope and appealing to the best in all of us, is far more superior, sane, and yes, patriotic than using fear.
The last 8 years are a glaring example of the difference.
Really all that matters in todays modern campaign's for president is that you are more able to capture the image of being more patirotic than the other guy.
I am all for joining that bandwagen, it worked for Bush twice.