What's wrong with the Republicans and how to fix it

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

I guess the reason pinheads attempt to divert the topic and talk about Roy Moore, is because this was one of the latest 'victories' for secular socialists who have been trying to erode our ties to Judeo-Christian values for years. The man was the Chief Justice and it was within his authority to decorate the statehouse. He chose to do this with a monument to the Ten Commandments, the very same Ten Commandments which adorn the walls of the Supreme Court, and several other Federal institutions in Washington D.C.

While the Ten Commandments are indeed a "religious symbol" they are also symbolic of our founding principles of justice. Seculars simply want to IGNORE this important distinction, and concentrate on the religious aspect, which incidentally, is universally respected by the 85% Christian-based population of America, regardless of denominational affiliation.

It is GROSS MISINTERPRETATION of our Constitution to make the conclusion that government buildings have to be "secularized" and can't express any kind of religious value. The proverbial "separation of church and state" was never intended to secularize government or make us an Atheist nation. It was intended to separate powers of religion from government, in order to protect religion, not government. Our government, and indeed, our entire founding principle as a nation, relies on the existence of a Supreme entity who endows us our freedoms, and rights to govern ourselves, as well as the ensuring of freedom and justice for all. If there is no "Creator" we have no foundation or principle, it can't exist.

 

[Canceled.2014.1]

I guess the reason pinheads attempt to divert the topic and talk about Roy Moore, is because this was one of the latest 'victories' for secular socialists who have been trying to erode our ties to Judeo-Christian values for years. The man was the Chief Justice and it was within his authority to decorate the statehouse. He chose to do this with a monument to the Ten Commandments, the very same Ten Commandments which adorn the walls of the Supreme Court, and several other Federal institutions in Washington D.C.

While the Ten Commandments are indeed a "religious symbol" they are also symbolic of our founding principles of justice. Seculars simply want to IGNORE this important distinction, and concentrate on the religious aspect, which incidentally, is universally respected by the 85% Christian-based population of America, regardless of denominational affiliation.

It is GROSS MISINTERPRETATION of our Constitution to make the conclusion that government buildings have to be "secularized" and can't express any kind of religious value. The proverbial "separation of church and state" was never intended to secularize government or make us an Atheist nation. It was intended to separate powers of religion from government, in order to protect religion, not government. Our government, and indeed, our entire founding principle as a nation, relies on the existence of a Supreme entity who endows us our freedoms, and rights to govern ourselves, as well as the ensuring of freedom and justice for all. If there is no "Creator" we have no foundation or principle, it can't exist.

LOL! Come on, Dixie. You know full well the difference between what Roy Moore did and what is displayed in the friezes on the walls of the SCOTUS. The SCOTUS building has many examples of laws represented. Roy Moore only had one and would not allow any other. So yes, what he did was a violation of the 1st Amendment.

 

[philly rabbit]

I guess the reason pinheads attempt to divert the topic and talk about Roy Moore, is because this was one of the latest 'victories' for secular socialists who have been trying to erode our ties to Judeo-Christian values for years. The man was the Chief Justice and it was within his authority to decorate the statehouse. He chose to do this with a monument to the Ten Commandments, the very same Ten Commandments which adorn the walls of the Supreme Court, and several other Federal institutions in Washington D.C.

While the Ten Commandments are indeed a "religious symbol" they are also symbolic of our founding principles of justice. Seculars simply want to IGNORE this important distinction, and concentrate on the religious aspect, which incidentally, is universally respected by the 85% Christian-based population of America, regardless of denominational affiliation.

It is GROSS MISINTERPRETATION of our Constitution to make the conclusion that government buildings have to be "secularized" and can't express any kind of religious value. The proverbial "separation of church and state" was never intended to secularize government or make us an Atheist nation. It was intended to separate powers of religion from government, in order to protect religion, not government. Our government, and indeed, our entire founding principle as a nation, relies on the existence of a Supreme entity who endows us our freedoms, and rights to govern ourselves, as well as the ensuring of freedom and justice for all. If there is no "Creator" we have no foundation or principle, it can't exist.

Even though I believe we now live in a post Christian western society thanks to the progressives and a particular strain of libertarians as their allies, there is still no denying that America was indeed a Christian nation founded on Judeo Christian principles as the founders were well aware of and dependent on that fact to insure self governance through self accountability among the people. The country's founding documents were all inspired by this religion of Christianity including the country's judicial system using the ten commandments themselves as the inspirational basis for all American law. The secular progressives have their own religion and it is their intolerance of all other religions which has destroyed our religious freedoms and with them, our individual liberties.

 

[philly rabbit]

You keep trying to make it sound as though that monument were placed in the lobby of the State Supreme Courthouse for the sake of history. Even Roy Moore didn't make that claim.

The State Supreme Court is the highest court in the state. How can you even begin to justify a monument that lists commandments, the first 4 of which deal specifically with Judeo-Christian faith and denounce all other faiths?

This "it is historical" nonsense is pure bullshit. I was heavily invlved in the protests against that monument. I never heard one single supporter, including the Chef Justice who put it there, make any claim of it being strictly for historical purposes.

You were heavily involved and you didn't live in that state. Yours is the mindset of progressive centralized government with your secular religion and you fully understand exactly what is the arch enemy of your socialism and your socialist human God.

An important part of American history being it's very heritage itself has been censored by you progressives for the reasons of the American people being dependent on your government God and not their spiritual faith.

But that does not change the fact that religious Judeo Christian monuments are historical in their context and they clearly display that the people in different states are the task masters of their government and not their servants as you progressives want them to be.

 

[Robo]

An historical monument comes under first amendment, political free speech protection and it doesn't establish a state sponsored church.

So then you admit that religious monuments are ‘political speech?” I do believe you just shot down your own argument. The connection between “A” government and “A” particular religion becomes so apparent “politically” and a violation of the separation of church and state. They are not just political speech when they appear on public property 1, if they were paid for by government with taxpayer’s money and 2, if any and all religions don’t have the right to also establish their religious symbolism on public property. Equality is the agenda of constitutional government. It’s “all or nothing.”

The whole idea of such a monument is to let the government .. the secular government know just who the judicial process is for, about, and by whom with whom being the people in the respective state.

That’s all fine and dandy and even constitutional as long as such symbolism is paid for completely by the religious establishment creating it and of course as long as any and all religious factions have the same rights and privileges. I have to wonder what your argument would be if the Muslim faith insisted on creating symbolism on the Alabama Court House symbolizing Muslim Law?

How the people of Alabama decorate their public and private establishments is none of your secular business

Oh but the fine people of Alabama do make it my “constitutional business.” I believe every American has a duty and vital interest in seeing to it that all American government honor, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of these United States since it’s our only guarantee of our rights, liberties and restrictions on government, don’t you?

and if you do reside in Alabama and you object to the displays and you make up part of the numerical minority of that state, then it's up to you to move to another state of your choosing.

On the contrary! Our national Constitution, its Bill Of Rights and other amendments are established particularly to protect the “minority’s” rights from the mob rule of a majority whenever the majority becomes a “mob” attempting to violate our Constitution.

Your secular religion is governmental religion as it is for your progressive allies and it does not represent by any constitutional measure or law the religion of the people of any given state from a historical perspective.

But you know not of my religion because I don’t attempt to mix “my” religion with my politics. Actually “my” God never instructed me to force my religion on other folks through human government or do I believe he would condone such authoritarian action. My God created me to be “FREE” and to respect the freedoms of all others. Mankind is not ordained by any God to dictate the will of any God. I believe in free religious practice for all and government restriction of theocratic actions. So as you should plainly see I’m not a secularist, but even if I were, I would still respect religious rights as long as they violate no rights of others.

 

[Robo]

But that does not change the fact that religious Judeo Christian monuments are historical in their context and they clearly display that the people in different states are the task masters of their government and not their servants as you progressives want them to be.

Actually what they symbolize is the “Christian Faith” and the “history” of Christian religionist attempts to establish an American Christian theocracy. If not for our Bill Of Rights and the fact that America was settled by a diverse religious and non-religious population and the fact that so many of our founders were agnostics, America might well be today a theocratic dictatorship governed by a body of theocrats averse to religious freedom and attempting to conquer the world in the name of their God not so much unlike the radical Muslim threat to the world we experience today. We might well be the KKK on steroids. Now that is "progressivism."

 

[Canceled.2014.1]

You were heavily involved and you didn't live in that state. Yours is the mindset of progressive centralized government with your secular religion and you fully understand exactly what is the arch enemy of your socialism and your socialist human God.

An important part of American history being it's very heritage itself has been censored by you progressives for the reasons of the American people being dependent on your government God and not their spiritual faith.

But that does not change the fact that religious Judeo Christian monuments are historical in their context and they clearly display that the people in different states are the task masters of their government and not their servants as you progressives want them to be.

I don't know where you got the idea that I am not an Alabamian. I was born and raised there and have lived there most of my life.

You keep talking about historical perspectives, but you want to ignore what the commandments actually SAY.

Commandment #1 - You shall have no other gods before me. The first commandment completely excludes every other faith.

Commandment #2 - You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing love to a thousand {generations} of those who love me and keep my commandments. Once again, exclusion of every other faith, plus the added bit of punishing someone, not for what they did, but for what someone sle did.

Commandment #3 - You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name. Aside from trashing any semblence of freedom of speech (we are talking about a courthouse), this , once again, picks one religion over all others.

Commandment #4 - 4.Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant, nor your animals, nor the alien within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy. This even declares that no work be done on the holy day of a single faith, again to the exclusion of all others.

Commandment #5 - Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you. Certainly good advice, but hardly legal precedent or even a law. In fact, following this sort of commandment as law is what allowed men to abuse their families without interference from the outside.

Commandment #6 - You shall not murder. At last we come to a commandment that actually is a law. This was not the first time it was made a law, nor is it the only place.

Commandment #7 - You shall not commit adultery. Good advice but not a law in most places. But we'll leave this one as a law since is has been in many cultures.

Commandment #8 - You shall not steal. The second commandment to be solid as a law. But, like murder, it was against laws older than the 10 Commandments and has been against the law in almost every culture.

Commandment #9 - You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor. Unless you are giving testimony or speaking in some official aspect, this commandment is not a law.

Commandment #10 - You shall not covet your neighbor's house. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his manservant or maidservant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor Surprise! This one is not a law either.



So only two of these are actual laws, unless you count adultery, and then it is three. While four completely exclude all faiths except Judeo-Christianity. And you think it is acceptable to have this as the ONLY display in a courthouse that exists to represent ALL the people?

Amazing.

 

[Robo]

“Progressivism” is “power to government” as opposed to “individual” liberty. Communism is progressivism. Government sponsored non-voluntary socialism is progressivism. Government sponsored religion of any kind is progressivism. Collective majority rule is progressivism. In a nut shell progressivism is “BIG” government.

 

[maineman]

Hey... when the chairman of the GOP came out last week with his hot new plan to embrace minorities, I wonder if he was ready for that yahoo republican congressman from Alaska who called hispanics "wetbacks" a few days later. I guess that guy didn't get the memo.

 

[NOVA]

So just call it something different and satisfy the religious? Did you ever think of running for a political office? Seems to me that’s the same cop-out politicians use. So, what if queers call their “civil union” a “marriage?” Do we lock them up for blasphemy or telling a fucking lie?

Marriage: a legally recognized relationship, established by a civil or religious ceremony, between two people one man and one women, who intend to live together as sexual and domestic partners, ie, husband and wife ...www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/marriage
A pig by any other name is still a pig

made a little correction for you....

 

[NOVA]

Hey... when the chairman of the GOP came out last week with his hot new plan to embrace minorities, I wonder if he was ready for that yahoo republican congressman from Alaska who called hispanics "wetbacks" a few days later. I guess that guy didn't get the memo.

Thats right up there with “You f*cking Jew b@stard.”
- Hillary Clinton speaking to Paul Frey, campaign manager for Bill Clinton

 

[Timshel]

Thats right up there with “You f*cking Jew b@stard.”
- Hillary Clinton speaking to Paul Frey, campaign manager for Bill Clinton

You mean there is absolutely no proof of it and probably made up like your, Clinton quote?

 

[Timshel]

No, I looked it up there is actual proof of the Alaska guy saying that.

 

[NOVA]

Well,,,,then take you pick of numerous other racist remarks from Democrats that are "right up there".....

1. “Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels,
a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.”
- Robert Byrd

2. “I am a former kleagle of the Ku Klux Klan in Raleigh County and the adjoining counties of the state …. The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see
its rebirth here in West Virginia …. It is necessary that the order be promoted immediately and in every state of the Union. Will you please inform me as to the possibilities
of rebuilding the Klan in the Realm of W. Va …. I hope that you will find it convenient to answer my letter in regards to future possibilities.”
- Robert Byrd

3. “I’ll have those niggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years.”
- Lyndon B. Johnson

4. “You f*cking Jew b@stard.”
- Hillary Clinton speaking to Paul Frey, campaign manager for Bill Clinton


5. “You’d find these potentates from down in Africa, you know, rather than eating each other, they’d just come up and get a good square meal in Geneva.”
- Senator Fritz Hollings

6. Blacks and Hispanics are “too busy eating watermelons and tacos” to learn how to read and write.”
- Mike Wallace

7. “In the days of slavery, there were those slaves who lived on the plantation and [there] were those slaves that lived in the house. You got the privilege of living
in the house if you served the master … exactly the way the master intended to have you serve him. Colin Powell’s committed to come into the house of the master.
When Colin Powell dares to suggest something other than what the master wants to hear, he will be turned back out to pasture.”
- Harry Belafonte

8. “A handkerchief-head, chicken-and-biscuit-eating Uncle Tom.”
- Spike Lee referring to Clarence Thomas

9. ‘Hymietown.’
- Jesse Jackson describing New York City

10. “Jews — that’s J-E-W-S.”
- State Senator Bill McKinney explaining why his daughter Cynthia lost in 2002

11. “Civil rights laws were not passed to protect the rights of white men and do not apply to them.”
- Mary Frances Berry, Chairwoman, US Commission on Civil Rights

12. The white man is our mortal enemy, and we cannot accept him. I will fight to see that vicious beast go down into the lake of fire prepared for him from the beginning,
that he never rise again to give any innocent black man, woman or child the hell that he has delighted in pouring on us for 400 years.”
- Louis Farrakhan

13. “White folks was in caves while we was building empires… We taught philosophy and astrology and mathematics before Socrates and them Greek homos ever got around to it.”
- Rev. Al Sharpton

14. “The white race is the cancer of human history.”
- Susan Sontag

15. These negros, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they’ve never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness.
- LBJ

16. “I am not going to use the federal government’s authority deliberately to circumvent the natural inclination of people to live in ethnic homogeneous neighborhoods.”
- Jimmy Carter

17. I mean, you’ve got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy.”
- Joe Biden (referring to Barack Obama)

 

[Howey]

Thats right up there with “You f*cking Jew b@stard.”
- Hillary Clinton speaking to Paul Frey, campaign manager for Bill Clinton

Taken from Jerry Oppenheimer's unauthorized biography. What a legit source!

 

[Robo]

made a little correction for you....

Marriage: As confirmed by rule of constitutional law in America
1:a legally recognized relationship, established by a civil or religious ceremony, between two people who intend to live together as sexual and domestic partners

2:a married relationship between two people, or a somebody's relationship with his or her spouse

3:the joining together in wedlock of two people

4:the ceremony in which two people are joined together formally in wedlock

5:a close union, blend, or mixture of two things Encarta American English dictionary

Of course there’s always the other dictionary established by & for religionist progressives ”The Dictionary Of Religious Bigotry"

 

[evince]

It is amazing the lies you have allowed yourself to believe.

Here is a clue sweetie. Demographics don't trump economics.

your party is the one who crashed the entire world economy for the second time in one lifetime.

The LIE that republicans are the fiscal party is dead

 

[Auster]

/its what you'd have poeple believe, isnt it?

 

[Howey]

Marriage: As confirmed by rule of constitutional law in America
1:a legally recognized relationship, established by a civil or religious ceremony, between two people who intend to live together as sexual and domestic partners

2:a married relationship between two people, or a somebody's relationship with his or her spouse

3:the joining together in wedlock of two people

4:the ceremony in which two people are joined together formally in wedlock

5:a close union, blend, or mixture of two things Encarta American English dictionary

Of course there’s always the other dictionary established by & for religionist progressives ”The Dictionary Of Religious Bigotry"

That can't be right. Where's the mention of a man and a woman?

 

[Phantasmal]

No, I looked it up there is actual proof of the Alaska guy saying that.

Oh, he said it and tried to apologize for his statement, he is an idiot, known for putting his foot in his very large mouth.