Why did the prosecution go last on closing arguments in Trump's trial?

T. A. Gardner

T. A. Gardner

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Interesting point here. In like 99.999% of trials the normal order of events is:

Prosecution presents case
Defense presents case
Prosecution gives rebuttal
Defense gives rebuttal
Prosecution gives closing arguments
Defense gives closing arguments

The judge in the Trump trial reversed the order of just the closing arguments and is letting the prosecution go last. Why is that?
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Interesting point here. In like 99.999% of trials the normal order of events is:
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Prosecution gives closing arguments
Defense gives closing arguments

The judge in the Trump trial reversed the order of just the closing arguments and is letting the prosecution go last. Why is that?
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You are just plain wrong. In the American system, the prosecution always is allowed the final closing argument. Most jurisdictions do it where it is first the prosecution, then the defense, and finally the prosecution. Some jurisdictions (like New York) do it where it is first the defense, and finally the prosecution. This is seen as more expedited.

In ALL American criminal courts, the final closing argument is the right of the prosecution. None of this was decided by this judge.

In the United States, the plaintiff is generally entitled to open the argument. The defendant usually goes second. The plaintiff or prosecution is usually then permitted a final rebuttal argument. In some jurisdictions, however, this form is condensed, and the prosecution or plaintiff goes second, after the defense, with no rebuttals. Either party may waive their opportunity to present a closing argument.
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Closing argument - Wikipedia

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Grokmaster said:
The prosecution does not get to introduce "new crimes, as this one has. Outrageous judicial/prosecutorial misconduct.
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Now we’re going from grievances regarding going last to introducing new crimes while going last, next will be the defense never go to go at all

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Walt said:
You are just plain wrong. In the American system, the prosecution always is allowed the final closing argument. Most jurisdictions do it where it is first the prosecution, then the defense, and finally the prosecution. Some jurisdictions (like New York) do it where it is first the defense, and finally the prosecution. This is seen as more expedited.

In ALL American criminal courts, the final closing argument is the right of the prosecution. None of this was decided by this judge.


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Closing argument - Wikipedia

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The prosecution goes FIRST, the defense LAST. That is the sequence in 99.999% of trials. The judge reversed it in Trump's trial because the prosecution getting the last word would have more impact with the jury. The judge is acting as part of the prosecution.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
The prosecution goes FIRST, the defense LAST. That is the sequence in 99.999% of trials. The judge reversed it in Trump's trial because the prosecution getting the last word would have more impact with the jury. The judge is acting as part of the prosecution.
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No, each gets to rebuttal each others closing statements, I think you’ve watched too much Perry Mason
 
archives said:
He won’t be acquitted of all charges, predictable hung jury is more likely
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Same thing. What will Biden say about that? That the justice system worked? That it didn't work? That Trump is guilty anyway? Weighing in on this, regardless of outcome, will only HURT Biden in the coming election, not help him. But then again, Biden does have a long track record of fucking up with every decision he makes.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Wrong. There is no rebuttal to closing arguments. Each side presents, normally prosecution first, and that's that.
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Don’t know why I bother, per the American Bar Association:

“Because the plaintiff or government has the burden of proof, the lawyer for that side is then entitled to make a concluding argument, sometimes called a rebuttal . This is a chance to respond to the defendant’s points and make one final appeal to the jury.“

 
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This is yet another example of the alt right finding some legal technicality that does not exist anywhere other than in their own mind.
T. A. Gardner said:
The prosecution goes FIRST, the defense LAST. That is the sequence in 99.999% of trials. The judge reversed it in Trump's trial because the prosecution getting the last word would have more impact with the jury. The judge is acting as part of the prosecution.
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I already came up with a link, and I know enough about trials to know the prosecution is always allowed to go last. That is not 99.999% of the time, but rather 100% of the time. It is just how our system works. The judge changed none of the rules, nor does he have the power to change these rules.

New York State is different than most states in one way. Usually, the prosecution goes first, then the defense goes, and finally the prosecution has the rebuttal to the defense(going last). In New York State, the defense goes, and then the prosecution goes.

If you cannot read the facts, then watch Law&Order, and you will see the same thing.

T. A. Gardner said:
Wrong. There is no rebuttal to closing arguments. Each side presents, normally prosecution first, and that's that.
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You seem to have a problem with the way our criminal law system works.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
The prosecution goes FIRST, the defense LAST. That is the sequence in 99.999% of trials. The judge reversed it in Trump's trial because the prosecution getting the last word would have more impact with the jury. The judge is acting as part of the prosecution.
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Another Terry lie.

In most cases 99.9999% the prosecution goes first in closing, and last, with the defense in between.

In NYS it is a bit more balanced as the Prosecution only goes last (not first as well) and that is in 100% of NYS trials.

Terry will keep repeating this lie as he is a liar and stupid.
 
archives said:
Don’t know why I bother, per the American Bar Association:

“Because the plaintiff or government has the burden of proof, the lawyer for that side is then entitled to make a concluding argument, sometimes called a rebuttal . This is a chance to respond to the defendant’s points and make one final appeal to the jury.“

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Yup.

But Fox news and other alt right Magat media is only repeating the lie that Terry swallowed and so Terry is not getting accurate information.

Nothing proves Terry is a full on magat stuck in their echo bubble than this thread where he runs in thinking he has a gotcha based on the lies being spun on magat media right now.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Interesting point here. In like 99.999% of trials the normal order of events is:

Prosecution presents case
Defense presents case
Prosecution gives rebuttal
Defense gives rebuttal
Prosecution gives closing arguments
Defense gives closing arguments

The judge in the Trump trial reversed the order of just the closing arguments and is letting the prosecution go last. Why is that?
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The prosecution has a much greater burden than the defense
which obviously doesn't have to prove innocence beyond a reasonable doubt
to all twelve jurors.

The prosecution always gives closing arguments last, TAG.
 
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