Why do Hebrews Deny Jesus When He is Clearly in the Christian Bible?

The Messiah must be descended on his father’s side from King David (see Genesis 49:10 and Isaiah 11:1).
This is a boldfaced lie. The person who told you this was a Democrat. Ask me how I know.

The correct verse is Isaiah 7:14. It is the HEBREW prophecy of a virgin birth of the Immanuel. Genesis has nothing to say on the matter. Satan has deceived you once again, through Democrat manipulation that will never end.
 
Obviously the Christian Bible isn't going to get it wrong. Hebrews who deny Jesus is the promised Savior are just crying "sour grapes" because they mistakenly executed the Messiah and are no longer God's favorites.

That's an ok troll effort, I give it a 'C'.
 
Well, they did, but Jesus being the Messiah, came back from the dead, so that sinners could each have their turns executing Him as well, if I understand your point. Of course, I'll have to go with whatever gfm7175 says on the matter.


I do hope you apologized.


Nope. It would appear that the Israelites WERE the favorites, but then they screwed up royally, mistakenly chose Barabbas in a moment of confusion, and left Christians to slide into the pole position. The Jews never recovered, although they tried, by making a pact with devil and selling their souls to the Democrat Party. They were deceived.

Of course, I will have to go with whatever gfm7175 says on the matter.

Mixing Politics with religion is not a good thing!
 
So goyim are going to tell us what our scripture says about the messiah ??

maybe you should read the Hebrew bible in Hebrew

christian Mistranslations of Text

https://jewsforjudaism.org/knowledge/articles/mistranslations-of-text


The term "mashiach" literally means "the anointed one," and refers to the ancient practice of anointing kings with oil when they took the throne. The mashiach is the one who will be anointed as king in the End of Days.

The word "mashiach" does not mean "savior." The notion of an innocent, divine or semi-divine being who will sacrifice himself to save us from the consequences of our own sins is a purely Christian concept that has no basis in Jewish thought. Unfortunately, this Christian concept has become so deeply ingrained in the English word "messiah" that this English word can no longer be used to refer to the Jewish concept. The word "mashiach" will be used throughout this page.



Jews do not accept Jesus as the messiah because:

Jesus did not fulfill the messianic prophecies.
Jesus did not embody the personal qualifications of the Messiah.
Biblical verses "referring" to Jesus are mistranslations.
Jewish belief is based on national revelation.
But first, some background: What exactly is the Messiah?

The word "Messiah" is an English rendering of the Hebrew word Mashiach, which means "anointed." It usually refers to a person initiated into God's service by being anointed with oil. (Exodus 29:7, 1-Kings 1:39, 2-Kings 9:3)

(1) Jesus Did Not Fulfill the Messianic Prophecies
What is the Messiah supposed to accomplish? One of the central themes of biblical prophecy is the promise of a future age of perfection characterized by universal peace and recognition of God. (Isaiah 2:1-4, 32:15-18, 60:15-18; Zephaniah 3:9; Hosea 2:20-22; Amos 9:13-15; Micah 4:1-4; Zechariah 8:23, 14:9; Jeremiah 31:33-34)

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Specifically, the Bible says he will:

Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).
Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).
Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore." (Isaiah 2:4)
Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world – on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah 14:9).
If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, then he cannot be the Messiah.

Because no one has ever fulfilled the Bible's description of this future King, Jews still await the coming of the Messiah. All past Messianic claimants, including Jesus of Nazareth, Bar Cochba and Shabbtai Tzvi have been rejected.

Christians counter that Jesus will fulfill these in the Second Coming. Jewish sources show that the Messiah will fulfill the prophecies outright; in the Bible no concept of a second coming exists.

(2) Jesus Did Not Embody the Personal Qualifications of Messiah
A. Messiah as Prophet
The Messiah will become the greatest prophet in history, second only to Moses. (Targum – Isaiah 11:2; Maimonides – Teshuva 9:2)

Prophecy can only exist in Israel when the land is inhabited by a majority of world Jewry, a situation which has not existed since 300 BCE. During the time of Ezra, when the majority of Jews remained in Babylon, prophecy ended upon the death of the last prophets – Haggai, Zechariah and Malachi.

Jesus appeared on the scene approximately 350 years after prophecy had ended, and thus could not be a prophet.

B. Descendant of David
Many prophetic passages speak of a descendant of King David who will rule Israel during the age of perfection. (Isaiah 11:1-9; Jeremiah 23:5-6, 30:7-10, 33:14-16; Ezekiel 34:11-31, 37:21-28; Hosea 3:4-5)

The Messiah must be descended on his father's side from King David (see Genesis 49:10, Isaiah 11:1, Jeremiah 23:5, 33:17; Ezekiel 34:23-24). According to the Christian claim that Jesus was the product of a virgin birth, he had no father – and thus could not have possibly fulfilled the messianic requirement of being descended on his father's side from King David. (1)

According to Jewish sources, the Messiah will be born of human parents and possess normal physical attributes like other people. He will not be a demi-god, (2) nor will he possess supernatural qualities.

C. Torah Observance
The Messiah will lead the Jewish people to full Torah observance. The Torah states that all mitzvot remain binding forever, and anyone coming to change the Torah is immediately identified as a false prophet. (Deut. 13:1-4)

Throughout the Christian "New Testament," Jesus contradicts the Torah and states that its commandments are no longer applicable. For example, John 9:14 records that Jesus made a paste in violation of Shabbat, which caused the Pharisees to say (verse 16), "He does not observe Shabbat!"

(3) Mistranslated Verses "Referring" to Jesus
Biblical verses can only be understood by studying the original Hebrew text – which reveals many discrepancies in the Christian translation.

A. Virgin Birth
The Christian idea of a virgin birth is derived from the verse in Isaiah 7:14 describing an "alma" as giving birth. The word "alma" has always meant a young woman, but Christian theologians came centuries later and translated it as "virgin." This accords Jesus' birth with the first century pagan idea of mortals being impregnated by gods.

B. Suffering Servant
Christianity claims that Isaiah chapter 53 refers to Jesus, as the "suffering servant."

In actuality, Isaiah 53 directly follows the theme of chapter 52, describing the exile and redemption of the Jewish people. The prophecies are written in the singular form because the Jews ("Israel") are regarded as one unit. Throughout Jewish scripture, Israel is repeatedly called, in the singular, the "Servant of God" (see Isaiah 43:8). In fact, Isaiah states no less than 11 times in the chapters prior to 53 that the Servant of God is Israel.

When read correctly, Isaiah 53 clearly [and ironically] refers to the Jewish people being "bruised, crushed and as sheep brought to slaughter" at the hands of the nations of the world. These descriptions are used throughout Jewish scripture to graphically describe the suffering of the Jewish people (see Psalm 44).

Isaiah 53 concludes that when the Jewish people are redeemed, the nations will recognize and accept responsibility for the inordinate suffering and death of the Jews.

Specifically, the Bible says he will:

Build the Third Temple (Ezekiel 37:26-28).
Gather all Jews back to the Land of Israel (Isaiah 43:5-6).
Usher in an era of world peace, and end all hatred, oppression, suffering and disease. As it says: "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore." (Isaiah 2:4)
Spread universal knowledge of the God of Israel, which will unite humanity as one. As it says: "God will be King over all the world – on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One" (Zechariah 14:9).
If an individual fails to fulfill even one of these conditions, then he cannot be the Messiah.

Because no one has ever fulfilled the Bible's description of this future King, Jews still await the coming of the Messiah. All past Messianic claimants, including Jesus of Nazareth, Bar Cochba and Shabbtai Tzvi have been rejected.

Christians counter that Jesus will fulfill these in the Second Coming. Jewish sources show that the Messiah will fulfill the prophecies outright; in the Bible no concept of a second coming exists.

The prophecies not fulfilled at the first coming will be at the second coming.
 
I have to. Once the Jews made the epic fail of executing the wrong guy, they ceased to be the final arbiters on scripture, I'm sorry. That's ancient history and there's nothing we can do about it now except to watch and see if Christians pull an equally major blunder and end up falling in the rankings.

The bad news for you is that when the Jews' allowed themselves to be deceived by the Marxist Democrats, their resulting slavery pushed them down below the Muslims in the standings. Scripture interpretation authority is presently out of reach for the Jews, I'm sorry to say.

Fortunately for JPP, gfm7175 CAN authoritatively answer ALL questions pertaining to scripture, so you have that angle available to you.

Trying to use your right wing hate of Democrats to attack the Jews! Borders on Hitlerism
 
guno, why are you such a HATER? You would be the first person screaming "NAZIs!" and "AntiSemites!" if someone were to make a video making fun of your faith.

I'm very disappointed.

You're confused being Jewish isn't like being Catholic etc.
Being Jewish is like being in the Mafia,there's no quitting,no way out! " Every time I think I'm out,they pull me back in"!
 
Being a atheist is your religion!
Explain. How can a lack of any religion be a religion?

If you lack any car, is that your car? Can you drive it to work?

If you lack any food, is that your food? Can you eat it?

I have no theism. So you're claiming that is my theism?
 
Being Jewish is like being in the Mafia,there's no quitting,no way out! " Every time I think I'm out,they pull me back in"!
That makes Jews confused, not me.

Jews, such as guno, hide behind their self-loathing and their HATRED for everyone else. It makes one wonder "why have Jews NEVER had friends?" ... and then one gets a sickening thought "what if the NAZIs just couldn't take it anymore and were driven to do everything they did by a society of predatory Jews who totally deserved what they got?" I'm imagining an otherwise peaceful Germany overrun by people like guno who are insufferable and who only lie about others, they use the freedoms given them to become successful and immediately start foreclosing on people's homes, issuing predatory loans, and force the society into a defense against an existential threat.

What if the NAZIs were actually the good guys and we've been manipulated into viewing them as the bad guys? When I see guno behaving as a clansman, I have to wonder.
 
That makes Jews confused, not me.

Jews, such as guno, hide behind their self-loathing and their HATRED for everyone else. It makes one wonder "why have Jews NEVER had friends?" ... and then one gets a sickening thought "what if the NAZIs just couldn't take it anymore and were driven to do everything they did by a society of predatory Jews who totally deserved what they got?" I'm imagining an otherwise peaceful Germany overrun by people like guno who are insufferable and who only lie about others, they use the freedoms given them to become successful and immediately start foreclosing on people's homes, issuing predatory loans, and force the society into a defense against an existential threat.

What if the NAZIs were actually the good guys and we've been manipulated into viewing them as the bad guys? When I see guno behaving as a clansman, I have to wonder.

I don't like jews but I'm not convinced guno is a jew. I think he's some disphit reading a DNC script.
 
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