Why is educating about Tubman bad?

Phantasmal said:
I’m for hauling them off to some museum no one visits. Who the hell honors traitors and losers?
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It's that POV which is resulting in the backlash from petty tyrants like Trump and his MAGAt supporters.

IMO, the best way to move forward from the past is to embrace it. Sweeping it under the rug or, worse, lying about it, only allows it to fester instead of healing.
 
Phantasmal said:
I’m for hauling them off to some museum no one visits. Who the hell honors traitors and losers?
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Dutch Uncle said:
It's that POV which is resulting in the backlash from petty tyrants like Trump and his MAGAt supporters.

IMO, the best way to move forward from the past is to embrace it. Sweeping it under the rug or, worse, lying about it, only allows it to fester instead of healing.
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Memorials to losers isn’t healing, and if you know why monuments were put into place, it solidifies that doing away with them is the right decision.
 
Phantasmal said:
Memorials to losers isn’t healing, and if you know why monuments were put into place, it solidifies that doing away with them is the right decision.
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1. Calling them losers is part of the problem. It only fosters resentment in addition to neglecting history.
2. I understand why the monuments were put up. My point is that by burying them, it's akin to the Soviets and PRC trying to stamp out religion or the US War on Drugs. All it does is drive it underground.
3. You can't force people to change their thoughts. IMO, education, especially teaching tolerance, is the better path forward.
 
When they took down Traitor to the United States Robert E. Lee the fuckers had an attack.

A real hero, Harriet Tubman should be celebrated.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
1. Calling them losers is part of the problem. It only fosters resentment in addition to neglecting history.
2. I understand why the monuments were put up. My point is that by burying them, it's akin to the Soviets and PRC trying to stamp out religion or the US War on Drugs. All it does is drive it underground.
3. You can't force people to change their thoughts. IMO, education, especially teaching tolerance, is the better path forward.
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They are losers and traitors.

I see educating people to that fact is the way forward, but the very people who wish to retain the statues also wish to do away with teaching the true history.

The majority of people polled wanted action on the monuments. The disagreement was on whether to destroy them or move them.
 
Phantasmal said:
They are losers and traitors.

I see educating people to that fact is the way forward, but the very people who wish to retain the statues also wish to do away with teaching the true history.

The majority of people polled wanted action on the monuments. The disagreement was on whether to destroy them or move them.
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We should agree to disagree on this point.

Agreed on education as the way forward. Not all of them, but I agree there are white supremacists AKA racist assholes who do, indeed, seek to pervert the present with a misrepresentation of the past. Specifically in the area of white supremacy.

What poll?
 
Cypress said:
Traditionally, there were undoubtedly more monuments to Confederate generals in the South than to black abolitionists and civil rights leaders.
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I think Confederate generals belong in history books, not in public monuments.

Monuments are making a statement. Its a public declaration of who we find worthwhile of our respect and veneration. That's exactly why Lithuanians, Estonians, and Ukrainians pulled down all the monuments of Lenin.
 
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