“Will DOGE lose more money than it saves?”

Not just the money Musk is spending, but his stripping of personal information out of SS. He has kids accessing the info of millions of American citizens. That info can be used to open charge accounts and purchase things. One of his experts is 19, and others below 25. This is a disaster waiting for Musk to spring.
It has not saved a dime at this point.
 
archives said:
“ The Department of Government Efficiency claims that it has saved the country $115 billion so far. But is this accurate?”

“On DOGE’s website, it claims that $115 billion has saved taxpayers around $715 each. However, DOGE has deleted hundreds of claims from its “wall of receipts” several times.”

“DOGE’s plan to cut staff at the IRS by up to 50% would lead to a $400 billion increase in uncollected taxes over the next 10 years. This could lead to $2 trillion in losses. Right now, the IRS fails to collect around $700 billion in taxes that are owed each year. The Quarterly Journal of Economics suggests that every dollar that is spent on auditing individuals in the top 10% of earners returns around $12.”

“The Treasury Department’s inspector general has previously estimated that each hour spent auditing a high earner creates close to $5,000 more in tax revenue”


Not surprising, there is a reason Trump quickly eliminated the IGs and watchdogs on Government spending, the last thing he and Musk want is having to prove what they bloviate
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SmarterthanYou said:
you focused on a single aspect to declare your claims as true without depicting any of the other aspects because it totally debunks your bullshit.
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The revenue lost with decimating IRS’s effectiveness alone surpasses DOGE’s savings, especially since DOGE has actually verified few savings and Trump is promising another country club tax cut in the Spring
 
Walt said:
Hmmm... Do I think a 19 year old who calls himself "Big Balls" is able to be sure about hundreds of thousands of specialists in different fields? No, it does not sound possible to me.
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Doesn’t have to sound possible to you. They are merely identifying the fraud. The anomalies. Relax. It will be ok
 
SmarterthanYou said:
Churchill is one of the first great so called progressives. he was also the original one to state that you can't tax your way in to prosperity.

Clinton raised taxes and decreased spending not to balance a budget, but to find a way to implement his own desired programs in an agreement with Gingrich.

Agreed. In fact I was one of the first who ridiculed trump for DOGE because you don't tout cutting waste, fraud, and spending by creating an entire new agency within the federal government. We all know that the whistle blower program was smoke and mirrors.......people still get punished for blowing the whistle.

Until we stop electing self serving republicans and democrats in to federal office, we will continue to have our money stolen from us while it is deposited in to the pockets of those democrats and republicans, their donors, and cronies.
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What you missed in your upside down analogy of DOGE is that there hasn't been anyone in past administrations that would even consider
cutting waste, fraud and spending because most of that waste fraud and spending was being transferred to their buddy bureaucrats and NGOs.
The members of the DOGE team are mostly billionaires to begin with, so they are not in this DOGE organization to send tax monies to their donors and cronies the way the dems in government have been doing forever. So there is no self serving with the DOGE team, none. Musk says they'll be cutting somewhere around 1 trillion dollars of waste from that bloated government. DOGE is on the taxpayers best team to help straighten our the
over spending waste that the biden team reveled in.
 
Libhater said:
The members of the DOGE team are mostly billionaires to begin with, so they are not in this DOGE organization to send tax monies to their donors and cronies the way the dems in government have been doing forever.
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Most Dodge team members are not billionaires, but all are trying to send tax money to themselves and their friends.
 
Walt said:
Most Dodge team members are not billionaires, but all are trying to send tax money to themselves and their friends.
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You obviously didn't watch Bret Baer's interview last night with Elon and his billionaire DOGE team. The only one not there was
BIG BALLS, but all those at that interview were billionaires. And everything they and Elon talked about was how they'll be cleaning
out the waste and fraud from our over bloviated government so as to help the average taxpayer.
 
Libhater said:
The only one not there was
BIG BALLS, but all those at that interview were billionaires.
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Gebbia is a billionaire. Krause, Davis, Armstrong, Moghaddassi, Smith, Hassen are definitely not billionaires. I am sure they hope to become billionaires through Dodge, but they are not billionaires before Dodge.

In fact, I have a greater net worth than the median of those interviewed. If you think I am wrong, have someone explain the difference between median and average.

They certainly implied they were all billionaires. They were careful not to actually say they were, but as part of the scam, they certainly implied it.
 
Walt said:
Gebbia is a billionaire. Krause, Davis, Armstrong, Moghaddassi, Smith, Hassen are definitely not billionaires. I am sure they hope to become billionaires through Dodge, but they are not billionaires before Dodge.

In fact, I have a greater net worth than the median of those interviewed. If you think I am wrong, have someone explain the difference between median and average.

They certainly implied they were all billionaires. They were careful not to actually say they were, but as part of the scam, they certainly implied it.
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Um...Walter...

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