Defense Of Marriage Act Ruled Unconstitutional By Second Federal Judge

Actually, It don't have much to do with Constitutional rights....but I guess, they can spin it and fudge it a little.....

Homos don't just want equal treatment ..... on taxes, adoption, healthcare, etc.......they want "marriage" ....not a civil union that gives the very
same treatment and benefits, they want it to be called MARRIAGE.....its nothing more than an attack on religion from a new direction.....
If marriage and a civil union treats everyone exactly the same it should make no difference what you call it....but it does to them....


If it doesn't make any difference what you call it then why not call it marriage? Also, if marriage is a religious institution then shouldn't all legal benefits be immediately declared unconstitutional and terminated? If a married couple still want the legal protections, they can just pop on down to the courthouse and make a civil union.
 
Homophobe, huh?

Thats funny coming from the lefties.....

I see on this site dozens of posts about "what would Jesus do"......"Jesus was a liberal" and so on.....

You want to claim the dude as one of yours when it fits your agenda and throw him under the bus when it don't......

Hypocritical ???....Absolutely.
I think liberals have a much clearer understanding of the 'teachings' of Christ than most mega-church, televangelist, 'money is god's reward' Christians do...and Christ was not a homophobe.
 
If it doesn't make any difference what you call it then why not call it marriage? Also, if marriage is a religious institution then shouldn't all legal benefits be immediately declared unconstitutional and terminated? If a married couple still want the legal protections, they can just pop on down to the courthouse and make a civil union.

I said..." it should make no difference what you call it....but it does to them"......

Them, being homos and religious equally.....homos insist it be called 'marriage'.....that "blessed union of man and woman" sacred to the followers.....
The state shouldn't "marry" anyone.....that should be the domain of the Churches,.......marriage.
The state should only perform 'civil unions'.....thats would be the end of the problem.................
 
I think liberals have a much clearer understanding of the 'teachings' of Christ than most mega-church, televangelist, 'money is god's reward' Christians do...and Christ was not a homophobe.


I didn't call him that, you did......

Now that I brought the hypocrisy to your attention, you sing another tune......

Yeah, liberals are always right and everyone else is uninformed and uneducated....I think I heard that tune too....
 
I said..." it should make no difference what you call it....but it does to them"......

Them, being homos and religious equally.....homos insist it be called 'marriage'.....that "blessed union of man and woman" sacred to the followers.....
The state shouldn't "marry" anyone.....that should be the domain of the Churches,.......marriage.
The state should only perform 'civil unions'.....thats would be the end of the problem.................

Here is Bravo using gay slurs...watch, Yurt will say nothing...
 
Here's what I found:


A reasonable synonym of "sanctity of marriage" is "holy matrimony." Traditionally, marriage vows read (paraphrased, as couples are usually free to cite their own vows) "Let this man and this woman be united before God and let no man put asunder"; i.e. they put the sanctity of their union in the hands of a higher power, and let no earthly being destroy that union, unless they ask a court of law to destroy it.


However, judging by the "reasonably close to actual" 50% divorce rate, as stated on the website divorcerate.org, there is no 'sanctity' of the marriage anymore. Too many people, apparently, get married for the 'wrong' reasons. "Sanctity" is defined as holiness, or sacredness, and apparently, not enough people hold their marriages to that standard. So, using this concept, 'sanctity of marriage' is whatever the married persons hold it up to be.

"Marriage is a wonderful institution. But who would want to live in an institution?"--Henry Mencken

Answer 2:
Sanctity of marriage is the idea of the sacredness of marriage. Marriage is one of the holiest of relations two people can have. Therefore, marriage is not something to be entered into lightly. Further, once you are in a marriage, you must work hard to make it work. You have to treat it as sacred, and spend time making it work, no matter the cost.



The greatest threat to the sanctity of marriage is lack of respect for it, thus leading to degeneration of the marriage, and often divorce (in the US). Giving up on a marriage is considered sacrilegious and selfish. Sanctity of marriage is not subjective, and to be interpreted at the whims of people who have found it too hard or too difficult. The sanctity of marriage demands personal sacrifice.

Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_US_legal_definition_of_the_sanctity_of_marriage#ixzz1wNhSrIAh


Then you need to look further...... "sanctity of marriage" , "holy matrimony.", blessed ".......these words ALL have religious connotations....

You need to look to the Holy Book for that......those words mean nothing in the secular world.....
 
Here is Bravo using gay slurs...watch, Yurt will say nothing...

So you've become nothing more than a liar...and so open about it too....

You'll have to point out the gay slurs lassie.....arf, arf.....

Homo is just the shortened version of homosexual....hardly a slur....if thats what you're referring to...

No different than calling straights, heteros instead of heterosexuals......
 
I said..." it should make no difference what you call it....but it does to them"......

Them, being homos and religious equally.....homos insist it be called 'marriage'.....that "blessed union of man and woman" sacred to the followers.....
The state shouldn't "marry" anyone.....that should be the domain of the Churches,.......marriage.
The state should only perform 'civil unions'.....thats would be the end of the problem.................
You assume there are no churches that perform marriage ceremonies for LGBT couples, which exposes your bias on this topic. You're talking semantics and have nothing to back up your claims but 'opinion'...and those opinions of the homophobic preachers in this country. Hate knows no creed but in this country it often comes with a cross.
 
Then you need to look further...... "sanctity of marriage" , "holy matrimony.", blessed ".......these words ALL have religious connotations....

You need to look to the Holy Book for that......those words mean nothing in the secular world.....
And we are told by these same bigots that secularism brings Sharia law. There is no shortage of insanity around religion in America.
 
So you've become nothing more than a liar...and so open about it too....

You'll have to point out the gay slurs lassie.....arf, arf.....

Homo is just the shortened version of homosexual....hardly a slur....if thats what you're referring to...

No different than calling straights, heteros instead of heterosexuals......

LOL Bravo everyone knows you hate gays and "homo" is a slur. You know it is. You're a gay-basher.
 
So you've become nothing more than a liar...and so open about it too....

You'll have to point out the gay slurs lassie.....arf, arf.....

Homo is just the shortened version of homosexual....hardly a slur....if thats what you're referring to...

No different than calling straights, heteros instead of heterosexuals......
Yeah and nigger isn't a racist term because blacks use it. Of course it's a slur just as Fag etc. are slurs. Own it. It's a slur.
 
You assume there are no churches that perform marriage ceremonies for LGBT couples, which exposes your bias on this topic. You're talking semantics and have nothing to back up your claims but 'opinion'...and those opinions of the homophobic preachers in this country. Hate knows no creed but in this country it often comes with a cross.

Well, there are churches for everything and everyone.....sacrifice goats, have sex on altars, sing and dance, and play with snakes, etc....whats your point....?

When the law is changed to allow men to marry men or goats or apple trees, they can use those "churches"......

We're talking about what the Bible supposedly says about marriage being blessed....
 
Actually, It don't have much to do with Constitutional rights....but I guess, they can spin it and fudge it a little.....

Homos don't just want equal treatment ..... on taxes, adoption, healthcare, etc.......they want "marriage" ....not a civil union that gives the very
same treatment and benefits, they want it to be called MARRIAGE.....its nothing more than an attack on religion from a new direction.....
If marriage and a civil union treats everyone exactly the same it should make no difference what you call it....but it does to them....

if you're not gay, you really don't know why "they" want to be called married. It's our society,ppl who make vows to stay together (frequently break them) should be allowed to do so.
Besides your religion isn't my religion, so you follow yours and i'll follow mine, and voila' we have accomodaton/separation of church and state. :good4u:

PS. I use green to denote sarcasm or irony unless you peeps do something else, i'll follow the "way" of the board.
 
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Then you need to look further...... "sanctity of marriage" , "holy matrimony.", blessed ".......these words ALL have religious connotations....

You need to look to the Holy Book for that......those words mean nothing in the secular world.....



ROTFLMAO...telling me I need to look to a book you won't read yourself...whatever.

It's apparent that you have no idea how gay marriage will destroy the sanctity of the institution of marriage.
 
You made a claim that gay marriage would destroy the sanctity of marriage. I asked you to explain how. You have avoided answering the question for days now. And you want to muddle the issue with nonsense.

If I avoided answering a question from yesterday, it seems that since you have been avoiding answering for days, that you would see you have no room to talk. M'kay?
So you are refusing to go on record. How can you expect a response from me, when you can't even give a definitive, yet simple, response?
 
So you are refusing to go on record. How can you expect a response from me, when you can't even give a definitive, yet simple, response?

How does my refusal to answer whether I have ever been told before have anything to do with you answering the question?

I expect you to give a definitive answer about a claim you made. Unless you can actually give some answer to the question of exactly how gay marriage will destroy the sanctity of marriage, it if obvious that it was just bullshit you were spewing.
 
The only thing that's funny is your avoidance of my last question.... AND your pretend ignorance.

I'll tell you what. Go on record as stating that no Christian has ever explained to you how gays & lesbians can destroy the sanctity of marriage, and I'll give my answer. You too, Zappster. ;)

How does my refusal to answer whether I have ever been told before have anything to do with you answering the question?

I expect you to give a definitive answer about a claim you made. Unless you can actually give some answer to the question of exactly how gay marriage will destroy the sanctity of marriage, it if obvious that it was just bullshit you were spewing.


Alrightie then, I'll play your childish little semantic word game...

I. ZappasGuitar, swear that no Christian has ever explained to me how gays and lesbians can destroy the sanctity of marriage.
 
How does my refusal to answer whether I have ever been told before have anything to do with you answering the question?

I expect you to give a definitive answer about a claim you made. Unless you can actually give some answer to the question of exactly how gay marriage will destroy the sanctity of marriage, it if obvious that it was just bullshit you were spewing.

It's simply another bullshit barrier he is using to avoid being embarrassed...a barrier I have removed by the way.
 
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