Question?

Directly. They're in his book.

You mean they're in Michael D. Moody's book, don't you?

I've come to expect this kind of disingenuous crap from rightwingers. Looks like the left has it's share of bigoted bullshitters too.
 
I have half a mind to leave this up until the election.

"Will Christian Rethugs really vote for
a guy who thinks God lives on Kolob?
"



You gotta love religions?!!

P.S. If Romney is elected president, do you think
he will have one of those JFK visions?

[/B][/SIZE]I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of landing a man on the planet Kolob and returning him safely to the Earth. No single space project...will be more exciting, or more impressive to mankind, or more important...and none will be so difficult or expensive to accomplish...".
President Mitt Romney, May 2013???

I got a few questions myself(not that I expect you to have the courtesy of responding or anything)
Why do you persist in this attack on the LDS? Do you think you're changing any minds here? What are you afraid of? That Romney is going to send mormon missionaries out into the countryside to convert us all at the point of a sword like some kind of muslim? BTW, have you checked out "African Liberation Theology", as preached by the right Reverend Jerimiah Wright? (You remember him, right?) Maybe you should try to catch that ship to Kolob, if God lives there, you'll probably get free health care(that's really free!).
 
You mean they're in Michael D. Moody's book, don't you?

I've come to expect this kind of disingenuous crap from rightwingers. Looks like the left has it's share of bigoted bullshitters too.

Here's the difference. A right winger would claim he made a typo mistake. ()Or, in the Case of Wright and Obama, continue spreading shit three and a half years later.) I will admit to thinking the book was an authorized biography of Romney. After investigating further, I found out it's an unauthorized biography, so whether those quotes can be directly attributed to Romney or not is in question. I was wrong to misrepresent it in this case, yet due to my personal experience with Mormonism, I am still concerned about the religion Mitt embraces so wholeheartedly.
 
So he hasn't said anything it's just a matter of you not liking Mormons.

I know lots of Mormons; been very close to quite a few. The religion, like most religions, is whacked-out and its most vehement adherents are a few sandwiches short of a picnic. To be fully committed to such whack requires denial and/or nuttery, so while I can certainly befriend and even love many of them, I sure as fuck don't want them running the country and making decisions that affect everyone.
 
So.. You are now admitting that you cannot find any quote that shows Romney brought his "scary" religion anywhere near the election, you just decided that it was cool to feed religious bigots who decided to try to bring it bits of your "fear" to perpetuate it and to give ignorant bigotry your seal of approval?

Wrong. All of this is your own projected bullshit, most likely borne of defensiveness. Everything out of Mitt's mouth regarding his faith is belied and contradicted by his actions. Only idiots need that spelled out further for them. You need to label anyone who bruises your delicate sensibilities a bigot. Boy, there shore are a lot of bigots on this site, Damo. :D
 
Directly.

They're in this book.

So, a book written by somebody else, quoting somebody not talking about this election is "bringing his religion" to the election? And after it has been made clear that you are feeding bigots you continue to set the buffet?

You, sir, are a bigot. It's gross to watch somebody who is a victim of bigotry spread it and feed a different type of bigot.
 
Wrong. All of this is your own projected bullshit, most likely borne of defensiveness. Everything out of Mitt's mouth regarding his faith is belied and contradicted by his actions. Only idiots need that spelled out further for them. You need to label anyone who bruises your delicate sensibilities a bigot. Boy, there shore are a lot of bigots on this site, Damo. :D

So, instead of actually looking at what the man has said, and seeking exactly who brought this religion "into" this election process you simply double down and provide more for the bigots. I truly despise when I see those who preach tolerance practicing bigotry. Any respect built through your mind as evinced by logical reasoned posts is lost when you cannot practice the tolerance you preach. Seek a bit of introspection.

The reality is, Romney is one of the least "in your face" in regard to religion that I have seen in a long time from republicans. What he has said in this election cycle about his religion has been in answer to others bringing it, not him.
 
So, instead of actually looking at what the man has said, and seeking exactly who brought this religion "into" this election process you simply double down and provide more for the bigots. I truly despise when I see those who preach tolerance practicing bigotry. Any respect built because of your mind is lost when you cannot practice what you preach.

What in blazes are you talking about?? Of course I've "looked at" what the man has said and it is at complete odds with what he actually does, since he claims to be Christian. And goody for you that you look your nose down on those (like me) who hold sanctimonious hypocrites' feet to the fire. Guess how much your judgment about it bothers me?

And as for 'tolerance' for such hypocrisy and callousness coming from a sociopath masquerading as a Christian, there's nothing I can do about the fact that such scum is empowered by others with like minds; I can coexist with it just fine and believe me, Mitt doesn't give a fuck what I think of him. However, my 'tolerance' for him ends at the ballot box. ;)
 
Here's the difference. A right winger would claim he made a typo mistake. ()Or, in the Case of Wright and Obama, continue spreading shit three and a half years later.) I will admit to thinking the book was an authorized biography of Romney. After investigating further, I found out it's an unauthorized biography, so whether those quotes can be directly attributed to Romney or not is in question. I was wrong to misrepresent it in this case, yet due to my personal experience with Mormonism, I am still concerned about the religion Mitt embraces so wholeheartedly.

Ah, wrote the other response before reading this.... sorry.

Yet it continues to be an argument to emotion, an appeal to fear and a logical fallacy. It is exactly the same fallacy as those idiots who try to say that Obama is a "closet" Muslim...

At least you did do some introspection and understand that the source is not Romney bringing his religion to this election.
 
Ah, wrote the other response before reading this.... sorry.

Yet it continues to be an argument to emotion, an appeal to fear and a logical fallacy. At least you do some introspection and understand that the source is not Romney bringing his religion to this election.

Like I said on day 1, don't expect me to be like anyone else. ekg will tell you I have no problem with admitting to be wrong. This, however, is akin to the swift boating of Kerry. I'm sure you protested that too?
 
What in blazes are you talking about?? Of course I've "looked at" what the man has said and it is at complete odds with what he actually does, since he claims to be Christian. And goody for you that you look your nose down on those (like me) who hold sanctimonious hypocrites' feet to the fire. Guess how much your judgment about it bothers me?

It isn't my judgment that is wanting, it is your own. Speak of tolerance and preach fear and nonsense, promoting the bigots who pretend that it was he who brought this here and project falsehoods and misrepresentations of his religion.

Hypocrisy is disgusting, but there is an easy cure.
 
It isn't my judgment that is wanting, it is your own. Speak of tolerance and preach fear and nonsense, promoting the bigots who pretend that it was he who brought this here and project falsehoods and misrepresentations of his religion.

Hypocrisy is disgusting, but there is an easy cure.

Who cares? You're splitting hairs about who *brought* it. It doesn't matter. He's a Mormon. Their beliefs are whacked. You can hate it that I feel that way, I don't mind.
 
Like I said on day 1, don't expect me to be like anyone else. ekg will tell you I have no problem with admitting to be wrong. This, however, is akin to the swift boating of Kerry. I'm sure you protested that too?

Of course I did. He was honorably discharged and received medals for his service. Kerry's platform was one of the most pro-veteran I have seen. That wasn't the reason I couldn't support Kerry, I couldn't support Bush either in that election and voted Libertarian...
 
Who cares? You're splitting hairs about who *brought* it. It doesn't matter. He's a Mormon. Their beliefs are whacked. You can hate it that I feel that way, I don't mind.

Let's look a bit into this...

One guy professes to believe in a religion where talking bushes who despise footwear send stutterers to go and insult a Pharaoh, the other thinks an angel led him to a book and gave him translation devices that allowed him to read it.

I don't think one is more "whacked" than the other and believe that neither of their beliefs is something to find "scary".

And the idea that how you "feel" about his religion should matter to others is a bit much. What makes your emotions so accurate, why should I listen to your emotive fear and by what basis should I use your baseless fear to make decisions of such magnitude?
 
Let's look a bit into this...

One guy professes to believe in a religion where talking bushes who despise footwear send stutterers to go and insult a Pharaoh, the other thinks an angel led him to a book and gave him translations devices that allowed him to read it.

I don't think one is more "crazy" than the other and believe that neither of their beliefs is something to find "scary".

And the idea that how you "feel" should matter to others is a bit much. What makes your emotions so accurate?

You can *think* whatever you want to about religion, and you can size them up and determine which is nuttier, which isn't, etc., and it your assessment still won't matter to me. It's okay that you need to call me a bigot; saying it doesn't make it so, so knock yourself out.

Oh, and guess what? Those who believe as Mitt does have no business making decisions about the rest of us. Yes, that's my opinion, which does appear to matter to you or you wouldn't continue to belabour the obvious here. Let me clue you in to what's obvious: You're okay with zealots running for the highest office and I'm not. It isn't about I'm right and you're wrong, or vice versa.
 
Like I said on day 1, don't expect me to be like anyone else. ekg will tell you I have no problem with admitting to be wrong. This, however, is akin to the swift boating of Kerry. I'm sure you protested that too?

I was asking what he said because I've only heard a few of his speeches and didn't hear him reference religion so if he did in other speeches I was curious to know what he said.

Partisans battling about religion doesn't concern me.
 
You can *think* whatever you want to about religion, and you can size them up and determine which is nuttier, which isn't, etc., and it your assessment still won't matter to me. It's okay that you need to call me a bigot; saying it doesn't make it so, so knock yourself out.

Oh, and guess what? Those who believe as Mitt does have no business making decisions about the rest of us. Yes, that's my opinion, which does appear to matter to you or you wouldn't continue to belabour the obvious here. Let me clue you in to what's obvious: You're okay with zealots running for the highest office and I'm not. It isn't about I'm right and you're wrong, or vice versa.

When it is based on the ignorant statements in this thread it is a clear indication of bigotry. Your opinion is based in ignorance, spreading ignorance and promoting "fear", arguing to emotion... Yeah, this is exactly what you believe others do when they speak of Muslims. Those who preach tolerance but practice this are at the very least hypocrites. When they do it with full knowledge they are bigots.

"Zealot"? There is zero evidence either of the people running for the Presidency are "zealots".

Did you know that the LDS Church (Mormons) believe that the US Constitution was inspired by God?
 
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