Zimmerman Gets Bond

[Althea]

And yet you talk about him "going on the hunt" and chasing trayvon down, which, as we have established, following someone is not a crime. It's never been a crime. Him following trayvon is entirely irrelevant.

Carrying a bat isn't a crime. Using it as a weapon, is. Do you have a point?

The rest of what you say is entirely unproven. It comes down to who initiated contact, and it's very plausible (I would say likely/confirmed) that it was trayvon that initiated the attack. Zimmerman was on the phone with police. Why would he start a violent confrontation when talking to police?

Zimmerman was on the phone with the police? He claimed that Martin went for the gun, when he (Zimmerman) went to get his phone out of his pocket. Which story do you wish to use?

the hero zimmerman will be acquited, and hopefully everyone will see the error of their ways.

confirmed: your side has been wrong on everything so far.

I don't have a side. And rest assured...if Zimmerman is indeed [sic] acquited, he'll likely be hunted down, and killed in self defense.

Gotta love the laws in the redneck states.

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

This is the part I don't get. GZ immediately assumed the worst. GZ never told TM he was part of a neighborhood watch and just checking up on people he wasn't familiar with. If he had done so, it would be a big part of his defense: "I told Martin not to panic because I was just looking out for the neighborhood, blah blah blah."

if you have paid attention to zimmermans story, the one confirmed by an advanced lie detector test of which he passed, trayvon jumped zimmerman before anything could be said otherwise.

scientific evidence on zimmermans side. no evidence on yours.

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

Zimmerman was on the phone with the police? He claimed that Martin went for the gun, when he (Zimmerman) went to get his phone out of his pocket. Which story do you wish to use?

You clearly have not paid attention to this story at all. Zimmerman was on the phone with the police the entire time, he was getting an address for the police to meet him, feet from his car, when trayvon jumped him.

As they were fighting, zimmermans jacket lifted up and trayvon allegedly saw his gun and reached for it, zimmerman then pulled it because of that and shot trayvon one time.

I don't have a side. And rest assured...if Zimmerman is indeed [sic] acquited, he'll likely be hunted down, and killed in self defense.

Gotta love the laws in the redneck states.

initiating a violent act is a crime. Zimmerman did not initiate a violent act. Trayvon did. This is confirmed by the multiple head injuries on zimmerman, as well as the scientific evidence of passing a lie detector test, and a story that has stayed remarkably consistent fromt he beginning.

 

[Althea]

if you have paid attention to zimmermans story, the one confirmed by an advanced lie detector test of which he passed, trayvon jumped zimmerman before anything could be said otherwise.

scientific evidence on zimmermans side. no evidence on yours.

Wrong. According to his first lie, Zimmerman was asked what his problem was. He answered "I don't have one".

Why not just say that he was part of the neighborhood watch, and he didn't recognize Martin?

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

Carrying a bat isn't a crime. Using it as a weapon, is. Do you have a point?

glad you agree that following someone is not a crime. so it's rather irrelevant that zimmerman followed trayvon.

using a gun in self defense is also not a crime.

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

Wrong. According to his first lie, Zimmerman was asked what his problem was. He answered "I don't have one".

Why not just say that he was part of the neighborhood watch, and he didn't recognize Martin?

because the violent trayvon didn't give zimmerman much of an opportunity before he violently attacked him. this is confirmed by the multiple head injuries zimmerman had, witness testimony of trayvon being on top of zimmerman, and the scientific evidence of a passed lie detector test.

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

Scientific evidence on zimmermans side.

The anti-zimmermans have been wrong on everything thus far.

Many anti-zimmermans on this board yelled from the rooftops that he wasn't actually injured, based on a grainy video footage. they were proven wrong.

The media claimed zimmerman targeted trayvon because he was black, and edited his audio by splicing it to make it say something he never said. The people that have perpetuated this propaganda have been fired for their propaganda. The anti-zimmermans on this board believed it though, and they have been proven wrong.

They have claimed it was trayvon yelling for help. Most now confirm it was zimmerman calling for help.

The anti-zimmermans claimed zimmerman chased trayvon down the street. Zimmerman was actually mere feet from his car getting an address for police (the police themselves wanted to meet zimmerman. They were also asking zimmerman if he knew where trayvon was). Anti zimmermans wrong.

Zimmerman has had a consistent story, and passed a lie detector test.

Everything the anti-zimmermans have said has been incorrect. Everything I have said has checked out so far.

The real reason for this is that those that are anti-zimmerman are racist against hispanics. there is no other reason why they would deny all this evidence.

 

[leaningright]

The real reason for this is that those that are anti-zimmerman are racist against hispanics. there is no other reason why they would deny all this evidence.

I think the real reason so many want Zimmerman to pay is that they don't like Florids's (and other state's version of) SYG law. They see it as a way to show that it is a terrible law in their minds. Just look at a post either from yesterday or this morning about a Texas incident where a father/son duo chased and shot an immigration officer or something like that. The tag line on the OP was something to the effect of "I wonder if they'll use Texas SYG as a defense?". Silliness yes ... But some of these people hate that law. They see this case that has now gained such national attention as a way to get rid of it.

 

[Althea]

You clearly have not paid attention to this story at all. Zimmerman was on the phone with the police the entire time, he was getting an address for the police to meet him, feet from his car, when trayvon jumped him.

I think you're making up whatever story you think will help your argument. There have been so many conflicting stories, it gets hard to follow.

7:15 – 7:16pm, version of events attributed to “Zimmerman’s parents”: An unidentified female neighbor and friend reports that Zimmerman’s parents are strongly maintaining that the shooting was in self-defense: “What [Zimmerman's parents] told us is that he was reaching for his cell phone and Trayvon Martin saw his gun and reached for the gun and there was a struggle.” This story is somewhat reminiscent of Zimmerman’s brother’s story, regarding Zimmerman going for a phone, which ignited the physical struggle

http://viewfromll2.com/2012/04/05/minute-by-minute-timeline-of-trayvon-martins-death/


Now your claim is that Zimmerman was attacked near his car?

As they were fighting, zimmermans jacket lifted up and trayvon allegedly saw his gun and reached for it, zimmerman then pulled it because of that and shot trayvon one time

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Right...this is the version where Martin had his hand over Zimmerman's mouth, while Zimmerman was screaming for help.

Why didn't Zimmerman simply announce that he was a NW wannabe cop?

Is it still your assertion that Zimmerman was on the phone the whole time?

initiating a violent act is a crime. Zimmerman did not initiate a violent act. Trayvon did. This is confirmed by the multiple head injuries on zimmerman, as well as the scientific evidence of passing a lie detector test, and a story that has stayed remarkably consistent fromt he beginning.

Fact...had Zimmerman stayed in is car, there would be no confrontation.

He initiated the contact, by pursuing Martin. Pretty simple concept to understand.

 

[Althea]

glad you agree that following someone is not a crime. so it's rather irrelevant that zimmerman followed trayvon.

using a gun in self defense is also not a crime.

Zimmerman will learn this first hand, if he's acquitted.

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

Now your claim is that Zimmerman was attacked near his car?

him being near his car is not up for debate. an officer came on the scene where all the fighting took place. he was right near his car. you can see a video re-enactment.

Right...this is the version where Martin had his hand over Zimmerman's mouth, while Zimmerman was screaming for help.

Why didn't Zimmerman simply announce that he was a NW wannabe cop?

lets stipulate he didn't say that. It doens't give the right for trayvon to violently assault him, or anyone. it doens't make it wrong only if he's a NW cop. After trayvon initiated the violence and started bashing zimmermans head against the pavement (which has been confirmed, this actually happened), zimmerman has a right to defend himself, both morally, and legally in florida.

Fact...had Zimmerman stayed in is car, there would be no confrontation.

It's not illegal to exit your car. If a woman got out of her car and got raped, she wouldn't be at fault for leaving her vehicle. Zimmerman is not at fault for exiting his car and getting violently assaulted.

He initiated the contact, by pursuing Martin. Pretty simple concept to understand.

Read up on self defense law. One does not have the right to violently assault another because they are being "followed" on a public street. That is not "initiated contact" Otherwise I could walk down any public street and take a swing at someone.

This case comes down to who initiated the violence, and so far, all evidence points to trayvon. Zimmerman had head injuries, witnesses have trayvon on top of zimmerman, and zimmermans story has been consistent over months, as well as confirmed by a scientific lie detector test.

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

Zimmerman will learn this first hand, if he's acquitted.

most people that have guns support zimmerman. The anti-gun proles don't have the balls to go after him if he's acquitted. They are a bunch of pussies. So stop with your delusional fantasy. Once zimmerman is acquitted, most people will have accepted the truth, and they will hopefully treat him like the hero he is, for riding this world of a violent assaulter.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

Zimmerman will learn this first hand, if he's acquitted.

So, if acquitted, he's going to just go out and randomly assault people and they'll just HAPPEN to have been opposed to him and then shoot him? Yeah, that's likely. Way more likely than a mob of dumbasses wanting their own version of 'justice'.

 

[Granule]

At least he has that possiblity. Martin, not so much...

Self Defense.

Perhaps Martin already made his choice....

 

[signalmankenneth]

Scope Him Out?

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

How long have you wanted to commit genocide against Hispanics Ken?

 

[USFREEDOM911]

The facts are documented. Zimmerman went hunting for a robber. He thought he found one.

Now he's a murderer. Your "he bought two of the three ingredients" comment is nonsense.



Hunters typically buy rain gear, and weatherproof boots if they hunt in the rain. They also buy bullets.

By your logic, anyone who purchases rain gear/boots, is by default....a hunter.

You should sue your parents; because it's obvious you were dropped on your head, at a very young age.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Zimmerman's not being prosecuted for following anyone.

He's being prosecuted for following, with the intent to kill.

It would have been very easy for Zimmerman to explain what his reason for following Martin was. He chose to take an aggressive approach instead.


Now he'll spend most of his life in jail, or he'll be hunted down in 'self defense' if acquitted.

Either way, he made a terribly poor decision, and will pay with his life.

Your reasoning is fucked and I hope you get "hunted down".

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Carrying a bat isn't a crime. Using it as a weapon, is. Do you have a point?



Zimmerman was on the phone with the police? He claimed that Martin went for the gun, when he (Zimmerman) went to get his phone out of his pocket. Which story do you wish to use?



I don't have a side. And rest assured...if Zimmerman is indeed [sic] acquited, he'll likely be hunted down, and killed in self defense.

Gotta love the laws in the redneck states.

Since you've decided to prove you're an idiot, rather then just let everyone suspect it; I would really like to see ANYTHING where Zimmerman said he was trying to get his phone out of his pocket.

Either show this statement, or forever be considered a liar; no matter what subject you're attempting to be part of.

Either PUT UP, OR SHUT UP.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

You clearly have not paid attention to this story at all. Zimmerman was on the phone with the police the entire time, he was getting an address for the police to meet him, feet from his car, when trayvon jumped him.

As they were fighting, zimmermans jacket lifted up and trayvon allegedly saw his gun and reached for it, zimmerman then pulled it because of that and shot trayvon one time.




initiating a violent act is a crime. Zimmerman did not initiate a violent act. Trayvon did. This is confirmed by the multiple head injuries on zimmerman, as well as the scientific evidence of passing a lie detector test, and a story that has stayed remarkably consistent fromt he beginning.

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Althea has just proved that she'll lie about anything, in an effort to make herself appear to be morally correct.
If she says the sun is out, you better go check first; because she's probably lying her ass off about it.