Obama's Swiss banks
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yes you do. you have yet to show how my support of romney's offshore legal accounts is hypocritical compared to nigel's hypocritical stance on obama paying the least amount of taxes necessary.
your last sentence makes zero sense and i never said that. obama used as many loopholes as he could, so did romney. you're only bitching because romney is a republican who has not advocated higher taxes....
there is no zero hypocrisy on my part. i would support obama doing the same as romney. in fact, i support obama taking the deductions and using the loopholes. what you fail to distinguish is that calling him out on hypocrisy and not leading, is not the same as supporting his underlying actions. it obviously is too much for you to grasp.
thanks for admitting you can't prove how i was hypocritical...using YOUR logic
What a wonderful post. First, I love how you actually SUPPORT his offshore accounts. Second, how does Nigel come into this?
Third is the awesome, predictable denial that you ever said that all Romney has advocated is that people pay the "least amount of taxes possible," which you just said a few posts ago.
Your hypocrisy & glaring double-standard is, once again, on display for anyone else to see & judge for themselves. You've made it pretty easy, as always.
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1. i didn't mean to state it as fact, it is my opinion and until evidence surfaces otherwise, i'll stand by it. and really, all this speculation on your and other liberals part and not wanting to give him the benefit of the doubt, is not surprising. you bend over backwards to give a D the benefit. you went all out defending obama, but want to believe the worst about romney.
2. how is putting your money in a swiss bank account setting the bar low? is it your contention that all presidential must only buy american, must only put their money in banks solely owned by americans and buy stock in corps solely owned by americans?
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and once again you run away from the actual discussion, refuse to discuss my actual words and show how they are hypocritical and then resort to your usual lies.
i never denied i said romney advocates that people pay the least amount of taxes possible. stop your petty lying. since you are clearly bent on not proving your claim and are now on your rants and lies. we're done. i gave you a chance yesterday to prove your claims and you haven't.
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oh my, a typo....what a lame gotcha onceler...yeah...i started to say "no" then changed it to "zero"
what a pathetic hack and loser who, when he can't prove his claims, resorts to being a typo nazi. LOL
(1) You presented it as fact. And what in particular did I defend Obama on? The fact that he didn't voluntarily pay more taxes than required by law? Obama filed a standard tax return with the standard tax deductions. Romney has structured his investments and business activities in a way to skirt US law. So, yes, it is legal, but, as I said, his creative tax avoidance strategies are different in both degree and hind from what Obama has done.
It should also be pretty clear that Romney knows this and that's why he isn't releasing any more tax returns.
(2) I didn't say putting money in a Swiss bank account is setting the bar low.
Typical avoidance.
For the record, Romney has never advocated "paying the least amount of taxes possible." He has never encouraged Americans to hide as much as they can in offshore accounts so Uncle Sam can't get at it. He has never openly encouraged taxpayers to seek as many loopholes as possible.
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newsflash....if it is legal, it is not skirting the law. they are not different at all. using deductions, loopholes in the tax code to avoid paying higher taxes is legal. obama did it and it appears romney is doing the same thing.
It should also be pretty clear that Romney knows this and that's why he isn't releasing any more tax returns.
(2) I didn't say putting money in a Swiss bank account is setting the bar low.[/QUOTE]
once again, you assume the worst of romney simply because he has an R after his name. you have no clue why his money is over there. there is no evidence to suggest his didn't pay his taxes. releasing his taxes is the dumbest red herring i have ever seen. the IRS could easily review his taxes now and go after him if he did something illegal. releasing them wouldn't give the agency in charge of prosecuting him for illegal tax evasion any more information. give me a break nigel, you're smarter than this, i hope.
then what is setting the bar low. can you be more specific?
I never said Romney did anything illegal. I said we don't know whether he did anything illegal because we do not have that information. I also said that taking plain vanilla deductions is different in degree and kind from the creative tax avoidance gimmicks Romney has engaged in.
Also, too, based on what little we know about Romney's investments and the fact that he won't release his tax returns screams tax avoidance and possibly evasion. If Romney did nothing illegal, what's the harm in releasing his tax returns like every other modern presidential candidate? Also, too, just imagine the outcry if the IRS actually investigated Romney at this point. Think about that for a second, dumbass.
And, no, I can't be any more specific about what is setting the bar low. Read, fucker.
Also, too, based on what little we know about Romney's investments and the fact that he won't release his tax returns screams tax avoidance and possibly evasion. If Romney did nothing illegal, what's the harm in releasing his tax returns like every other modern presidential candidate? Also, too, just imagine the outcry if the IRS actually investigated Romney at this point. Think about that for a second, dumbass.
And, no, I can't be any more specific about what is setting the bar low. Read, fucker.
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Are you for real? Obama actually released his birth certificate (and his tax returns btw) and Romney has refused to let anyone see his tax returns. I really don't know what planet you people are on? It is amazing to me.
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read fucker? you mentioned something yesterday, are you talking about the same thing today? be clear fucker.
it is not different at all. they are both avoiding paying more taxes. stop being such an apologist. you don't think the IRS looked into romney's taxes? LOL. that is truly hilarious. his income bracket is the highest bracket to be audited. he was a candidate in 08 and if you think the IRS never looked into his taxes, you are more of a hack than i imagined.
you can imagine how sorts of evil things, but the fact remains, releasing his taxes won't prove a damn thing. the IRS has already looked at his taxes and so far has not accused him of any wrong doing.
Hey Yurt, if you have evidence of an IRS audit of Romney's returns for any year, please provide it. Otherwise, you probably shouldn't say that the IRS looked at his taxes. Just an FYI.
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lmao....you don't need an audit for someone to have looked at his tax return moron. and fucker...why is you can't explain what the bar is?
So you mean someone simply laid eyes on the document as opposed to a substantive review of the accuracy of the information presented? OK. That's really smart.
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The Almighty
that is incorrect... The Swiss have rules in place that they are obligated to report in the matters of divorce, bankruptcy, inheritance, criminal proceedings etc...
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I will agree with the fact that he should disclose more tax returns to put this issue to rest. Otherwise it gives the appearance that he did not report the accounts to the IRS as required.
I will disagree with the above. If he did what every other candidate does... takes all deductions and loopholes that are legal, then he is no different. It is no different to have money (as long as it was reported) in the Swiss bank accounts than to invest in 'qualified' dividend producing companies here in the US. You do so to avoid paying more taxes than is legally required. The Swiss bank accounts if reported are taxed on interest/cap gains whether the money is brought back into the US or not.
Only if it's wages, and then a good portion of it can be excluded.