Condi Rice for VP?

[Mott the Hoople]

No, I think you seriously miscalculate how little the average American cares about Iraq at this time. The only people still bitter over Iraq, are a handful of ideologues such as yourself, and you're never getting over it. TO YOU this is a big deal, to everyone else out there, not so much. The swing voter wants to know what the candidates are going to do to bring jobs back, to get the economy going again. They aren't waiting to see who makes the best argument for the wisdom of Iraq. IF Condi were nominated, and that is the direction Dems took, to rehash Iraq, it would be the proverbial kiss of death for them. Mark my words. The country does NOT want to hear another debate on Iraq... YOU might, that might be what YOU would like to hear, but the rest of America doesn't give two shits at this point. Iraq is over, we've pulled out most of our troops, and it doesn't really matter whether it was right, wrong, or in-between. It makes absolutely NO difference to someone who is without a job, or on the brink of losing a job.

Grind isn't a good measure, I don't think he or you have every been right about anything political. Just saying.

Oh gee. My president lied this nation into an unneccesary and immoral war that cost the nation nearly a trillion in treasure, over 4,000 of our soldiers and around 100,000 innocent Iraqi's for what? You're an idiot if you don't think there are huge #'s of people who won't be deeply concerned about a Presidential candidate who has an outstanding record for creating jobs.....in China and running mate who was a principle in decieving this nation into an immoral war. As for the jobs issue, yea lets play that game. Lets see how it works out with Romney running as outsourcer in chief. Lets see how that flies with the unemployed.

Obama is dead on right on the economic front. The majority of Americans are sick to death and tired of the tired old failed "supply side" nonsense that Republicans have been selling for 30 years that have never worked for the vast majority of Americans. That's all Romney's selling and unless he comes up with some new ideas instead of playing etch a scetch not even Condi Rice can save his ass.

 

[j-mac]

Oh gee. My president lied this nation into an unneccesary and immoral war that cost the nation nearly a trillion in treasure, over 4,000 of our soldiers and around 100,000 innocent Iraqi's for what? You're an idiot if you don't think there are huge #'s of people who won't be deeply concerned about a Presidential candidate who has an outstanding record for creating jobs.....in China and running mate who was a principle in decieving this nation into an immoral war. As for the jobs issue, yea lets play that game. Lets see how it works out with Romney running as outsourcer in chief. Lets see how that flies with the unemployed.

Obama is dead on right on the economic front. The majority of Americans are sick to death and tired of the tired old failed "supply side" nonsense that Republicans have been selling for 30 years that have never worked for the vast majority of Americans. That's all Romney's selling and unless he comes up with some new ideas instead of playing etch a scetch not even Condi Rice can save his ass.

Always the same song with liberals....gotta be more like them to be elected...Which is utter BS btw.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Oh gee. My president lied this nation into an unneccesary and immoral war that cost the nation nearly a trillion in treasure, over 4,000 of our soldiers and around 100,000 innocent Iraqi's for what? You're an idiot if you don't think there are huge #'s of people who won't be deeply concerned about a Presidential candidate who has an outstanding record for creating jobs.....in China and running mate who was a principle in decieving this nation into an immoral war. As for the jobs issue, yea lets play that game. Lets see how it works out with Romney running as outsourcer in chief. Lets see how that flies with the unemployed.

Obama is dead on right on the economic front. The majority of Americans are sick to death and tired of the tired old failed "supply side" nonsense that Republicans have been selling for 30 years that have never worked for the vast majority of Americans. That's all Romney's selling and unless he comes up with some new ideas instead of playing etch a scetch not even Condi Rice can save his ass.

First of all, NO ...the President DIDN'T LIE! There was nothing immoral or illegal about the war in Iraq, that is a MEME. Was it a "wise move?" That's a topic open for debate, but hyper-sensationalizing has no place in reasoned debate. Don't speak to me about the cost of the war... your president has spent more taxpayer money playing golf and taking the family on vacations, than the entire war cost. And what was Iraq for? How about, so that 50 million people have the chance to experience FREEDOM for the first time in history? I know that doesn't mean much to a spoiled little twit who's always had everything he wanted in life, but to people who have lived under the oppression of one of the most brutal dictators of modern time, it's a big fucking deal! (to quote a certain bumbling idiot VP)

Obama is dead on WRONG on the economic front, demonstrated by the shitty economy we have, after pumping 3X the cost of the Iraq war, into the economy through Keynesian policy. THAT is what has FAILED, and the people realize it now. It is YOUR president who LIED to the American people, and took us into an unjust war on Capitalism, which has cost us TRILLIONS. And if you are SO stupid as to believe a president can do anything about outsourcing and trade with China, then I suppose that's why they have a Jackass on the ballot.

 

[Canceled.2014.1]

I think the country is at the point of developing, if not already having a case of predisposed, 4 year gestational, AB (anybody but ______) syndrome. That is to say, anyone that gets in and doesn't right this country, or make it clear that it is on the path is outta there unceremoniously.

It has been for some time. The last two presidents were in for two terms. The reason they got their second term is that the opposition ran solely on a "I'm not _______". Look at what a disastor Bush's first term was. And the dems couldn't beat him?

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

It has been for some time. The last two presidents were in for two terms. The reason they got their second term is that the opposition ran solely on a "I'm not _______". Look at what a disastor Bush's first term was. And the dems couldn't beat him?

Yeah, but it's really hard to beat someone who garners more votes than any presidential candidate in history.

 

[j-mac]

It has been for some time. The last two presidents were in for two terms. The reason they got their second term is that the opposition ran solely on a "I'm not _______". Look at what a disastor Bush's first term was. And the dems couldn't beat him?

the demo's couldn't beat Bush because, for a number of reasons, among them was that they put up a horribly out of touch liar as his opponent. Kerry was outstandingly flawed and dishonest, and the people saw that.

 

[blackascoal]

The latest scuttlebutt is Romney will pick Condoleeza Rice as his VP running mate. The folks at Breitbart seem almost 100% sure of this, while others are skeptical. Drudge is also reporting this to be a 'done deal' as well, and claims to have 'inside confirmation' this will be the pick.

At first, it kind of surprised me. There is a lot of negative stigma from the Bush administration, and Condi was Bush's right hand...gal. This seemed at first to be a peculiar choice for that reason, but then I started thinking about it...those who HATE Condi, aren't going to be voting for Romney anyway. And even the 'moderates' have a hard time criticizing Rice, she is arguably one of the most intelligent politicians of our time. In a head-to-head debate with Gaffeball Biden, I think it would be no contest, she'd mop the floor with him. Never have seen Condi debate, but her grasp of foreign policy and worldview is light years ahead of him.

I know the Liberals are drooling at the prospects, believing this will be the Sarah Palin kiss of death for Romney, but I don't agree. I think it might be a very brilliant political move, given the circumstances. If a Romney/Rice ticket can chip away just 10% of the black vote, Obama is history. If they can cut into a chunk of the female vote, even worse for Obama.

I make no bones, I have ALWAYS loved Condi Rice! Even if I weren't a big Romney fan (which I am not) this is the kind of thing that would excite the crap outta me, and I think there are many conservatives who share my sentiments.

You're mistaken. Rice is not a "politician" .. she's never been elected to office for anything.

Additionally, Romney won't even take pictures with Bush-era Cabinet members. He admonishes Obama for even talking about Bush .. why would he give the country another reason to?

A clearer understanding of American politics demonstrates that the "Rice for VP" notion is nothing but a mindfuck.

Romney's VP choice will NOT be anything but another white guy. How is this unknown?

 

[CanceledB]

You're mistaken. Rice is not a "politician" .. she's never been elected to office for anything.

Additionally, Romney won't even take pictures with Bush-era Cabinet members. He admonishes Obama for even talking about Bush .. why would he give the country another reason to?

A clearer understanding of American politics demonstrates that the "Rice for VP" notion is nothing but a mindfuck.

Romney's VP choice will NOT be anything but another white guy. How is this unknown?

'You shore can't call him 'racist' now, since he CONSIDERED Condi for VP....'

They're so easy.

 

[Howey]

tell that to McCain.....

His party's* selection of the unvetted Palin lost them the election. It also ran off moderate republicans and independents in droves but brought in crazy teabaggers and fundamentalists changing the once Grand ol Party forever.

Always the same song with liberals...

Truth hurts huh?

 

[j-mac]

Romney's VP choice will NOT be anything but another white guy. How is this unknown?

So it all boils down to skin color with you eh BAC? Why so racist?

 

[j-mac]

Truth hurts huh?

Let me know if you ever stumble across it.

 

[blackascoal]

First of all, NO ...the President DIDN'T LIE! There was nothing immoral or illegal about the war in Iraq, that is a MEME. Was it a "wise move?" That's a topic open for debate, but hyper-sensationalizing has no place in reasoned debate. Don't speak to me about the cost of the war... your president has spent more taxpayer money playing golf and taking the family on vacations, than the entire war cost. And what was Iraq for? How about, so that 50 million people have the chance to experience FREEDOM for the first time in history? I know that doesn't mean much to a spoiled little twit who's always had everything he wanted in life, but to people who have lived under the oppression of one of the most brutal dictators of modern time, it's a big fucking deal! (to quote a certain bumbling idiot VP)

Obama is dead on WRONG on the economic front, demonstrated by the shitty economy we have, after pumping 3X the cost of the Iraq war, into the economy through Keynesian policy. THAT is what has FAILED, and the people realize it now. It is YOUR president who LIED to the American people, and took us into an unjust war on Capitalism, which has cost us TRILLIONS. And if you are SO stupid as to believe a president can do anything about outsourcing and trade with China, then I suppose that's why they have a Jackass on the ballot.

If what you suggest was actually true instead of just right-wing meme ... then why isn't Romney running away with the election? You speak as if the country is clamoring for Mitt Romney .. which is a joke.

The Iraq War was a massive and collasal failure .. but you're free to try to make lemonade out of that. :0)

"Unjust war on capitalism???"

Don't look now .. but capitalism is failing all on its own all over the world .. and nobody with half a brain believes that Gordon Gekko is the answer..

 

[Howey]

* McCain didn't want Palin.

Dicksee.. things are no different in Iraq now then they were before. Sectarian violence is still prevalent, people are killing each other every day.

Wait. Something is different in Iraq compared to before. Thet all have UNIVERSAL HEALTH CATE thanks to Bush!

 

[Damocles]

Don't forget Mitt was pro-choice untill he decided to run for president...

All he needs is a quick shake of the etch a sketch and he can be pro-choice again, just like Rice!

This might make sense if his record as Governor wasn't so pro-life...

 

[blackascoal]

So it all boils down to skin color with you eh BAC? Why so racist?

Don't be an idiot on purpose.

I don't support Rice and I don't support Obama .. neither of which has anything to do with the FACT that Romney's choice will be another white guy.

So much for your bullshit concern about race.

 

[j-mac]

Don't look now .. but Socialism is failing all on its own all over the world .. and nobody with half a brain believes that Socialism is the answer..

Fixed it for you.

Socialism is the Big Lie of the twentieth century. While it promised prosperity, equality, and security, it delivered poverty, misery, and tyranny. Equality was achieved only in the sense that everyone was equal in his or her misery.

In the same way that a Ponzi scheme or chain letter initially succeeds but eventually collapses, socialism may show early signs of success. But any accomplishments quickly fade as the fundamental deficiencies of central planning emerge. It is the initial illusion of success that gives government intervention its pernicious, seductive appeal. In the long run, socialism has always proven to be a formula for tyranny and misery.

A pyramid scheme is ultimately unsustainable because it is based on faulty principles. Likewise, collectivism is unsustainable in the long run because it is a flawed theory. Socialism does not work because it is not consistent with fundamental principles of human behavior. The failure of socialism in countries around the world can be traced to one critical defect: it is a system that ignores incentives.

In a capitalist economy, incentives are of the utmost importance. Market prices, the profit-and-loss system of accounting, and private property rights provide an efficient, interrelated system of incentives to guide and direct economic behavior. Capitalism is based on the theory that incentives matter!

Under socialism, incentives either play a minimal role or are ignored totally. A centrally planned economy without market prices or profits, where property is owned by the state, is a system without an effective incentive mechanism to direct economic activity. By failing to emphasize incentives, socialism is a theory inconsistent with human nature and is therefore doomed to fail. Socialism is based on the theory that incentives don’t matter!

http://www.thefreemanonline.org/features/why-socialism-failed/

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

You're mistaken. Rice is not a "politician" .. she's never been elected to office for anything.

Additionally, Romney won't even take pictures with Bush-era Cabinet members. He admonishes Obama for even talking about Bush .. why would he give the country another reason to?

A clearer understanding of American politics demonstrates that the "Rice for VP" notion is nothing but a mindfuck.

Romney's VP choice will NOT be anything but another white guy. How is this unknown?

Okay.... Let's say, for the sake of argument, you were in a position to have to pick someone from the Bush administration to be your VP, who would you pick? Cheney? Rumsfeld? Someone other than Condoleeza Rice??? I think, of all the people from the Bush administration, she is probably the least caustic and least disliked...and the most intelligent. She has no political skeletons, or 'history' to poke around in and find things, regarding politics. Other than maybe Colin Powell, there is no one else from the Bush administration you could pick, and not expect to draw controversy.

Now you say, well why would Romney HAVE to pick someone from the Bush admin? Because the 'Bush Nation' is the demographic he is weakest with. For every person who HATES president Bush, there are ten who love the man, and think he was a decent president. I know, in liberal la-la-land, you find this hard to believe, but there is a reason Kerry and Gore couldn't defeat him at the ballot box. To solidify the base, those TeaParty conservatives who supported Bush, Romney is inclined to pick someone these people can identify with, and Condi Rice is the most suitable.

Again.... It seems to me, a very Karl Rovian move... Get the democrats off on another tangent about Iraq, instead of focusing on the economy and jobs, which is what Romney plans to campaign on. It couldn't be more politically genius if Karl Rove had designed it himself....which he probably did. The fact that you are already falling for it, is an indication of how brilliant the strategy is.

Nothing that happens in national presidential politics is by accident. Condi Rice's name is being floated for a reason, and I don't think it is so Romney can ultimately pick a white guy. That makes no logical or rational sense to me. It might not be Rice, she may turn him down, she has repeatedly stated she isn't interested in the job, so it may very well turn out Romney has to nominate a white guy, but I think he is seriously considering Rice, if she will accept.

 

[j-mac]

Don't be an idiot on purpose.

I don't support Rice and I don't support Obama .. neither of which has anything to do with the FACT that Romney's choice will be another white guy.

So much for your bullshit concern about race.

Yet you continue to repeat the racist lie, narrowing Romney's choice to "another white guy" which is a striking glimpse into your own inner hatred of white people....That is called racism.

BTW....Rubio is hispanic.

 

[CanceledB]

Socialism is the Big Lie...blah, blah, blah...

"Published by the Foundation for Economic Education", a free market think tank.

 

[blackascoal]

Fixed it for you.

Not capable enough of your own thought? Need to "fix" the thoughts of others? :0)

That on top of the fact that you obviously aren't capable of addressing the truth of capitalism failing all over the world. :0)

I like it when unlearned thought exposes itself.