Condi Rice for VP?

Dixie said:
Why do I keep hearing she is "pro-choice?" Is there some source for this? Because I have never heard that about Rice, and I can't imagine such a pro-lifer as Bush was, he would have her that high in his cabinet. It seems I recall her answering a question about it once in an interview, and she simply declined to express her personal view, said that was a private matter, but she respected the SOCTUS ruling in Roe. I don't know that I would call that "Pro-choice" really.
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[h=1]'Mildly Pro-Choice' Rice Won't Rule Out Presidential Bid[/h]
By Mike Allen
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, March 13, 2005; Page A05


Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice described herself Friday as "mildly pro-choice" and "kind of libertarian" on abortion, and left the door open for a presidential race in 2008...

..."If you go back to 2000 when I helped the president in the campaign," she said, "I said that I was, in effect, kind of libertarian on this issue. And meaning by that, that I have been concerned about a government role in this issue. I am a strong proponent of parental choice -- of parental notification. I am a strong proponent of a ban on late-term abortion. These are all things that I think unite people and I think that that's where we should be. I've called myself at times mildly pro-choice."


Rice, 50, has been quoted as using the "mildly pro-choice" formulation as long ago as August 1999, in a National Review profile.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A30282-2005Mar12.html
 
Derp Derp said:
If you don't believe approximately 25% of the population don't oppose Obama because of race you are either incredibly niave or need to get out more often. I come from the rural midwest and have a lot of friends out there and I visit often and they don't spare my feelings about what they think about Obama.
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Perhaps you are correct, but how many people do you suppose there are, who SUPPORT Obama because of race? Wouldn't you think this at least cancels itself out enough that you wouldn't want to raise the issue?

I live in Alabama, and have family and friends in Georgia, Tennessee, Mississippi, Florida, Louisiana, Arkansas and Texas... NO ONE that I know, dislikes Obama because he is a black man.... NOT ONE! Perhaps this says more about the character of the people YOU associate with, than what is actual FACT?
 
Dixie said:
No, capitalism did not fail. Things did happen to cause the market to collapse, but they had nothing to do with capitalism. If anything, they had MUCH more to do with governmental regulations and mandates ON capitalism.

Again.... Gordon Gecko is a fictional character created by Hollywood liberals, and has no basis in reality. It's a concocted story based on Liberal Socialist memes, and has as much to do with truth as you have with being objective.

And if you can call yourself a Keynesian after witnessing what 4 years of Keynesian policy has done, you are an IDIOT.
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and if your a supply sider after 30 years of its failures you're either blind or insane.
 
blackascoal said:
Good answer .. although I think both Whitman and Fiorina are distant possibilities.
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It's all speculation and not very relevent. The only thing relevent about a VP is that they be qualified to step in and do the job if the President is not able to. Other than that, they aren't worth, as Truman said, "a warm bucket of spit."
 
Dixie said:
Perhaps you are correct, but how many people do you suppose there are, who SUPPORT Obama because of race? Wouldn't you think this at least cancels itself out enough that you wouldn't want to raise the issue?

I live in Alabama, and have family and friends in Georgia, Tennessee, Mississippi, Florida, Louisiana, Arkansas and Texas... NO ONE that I know, dislikes Obama because he is a black man.... NOT ONE! Perhaps this says more about the character of the people YOU associate with, than what is actual FACT?
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Oh that's a good question. I'd say that number is probaby around 10%. There are certainly large numbers who support Obama based on identity politics though that number is not nearly as large as his opponents.
 
Derp Derp said:
It's all speculation and not very relevent. The only thing relevent about a VP is that they be qualified to step in and do the job if the President is not able to. Other than that, they aren't worth, as Truman said a warm bucket of spit.
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From my perspective it's all smoke and mirrors .. including the selection of the president. In the end, they will all do as they're told.
 
blackascoal said:
From my perspective it's all smoke and mirrors .. including the selection of the president. In the end, they will all do as they're told.
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Politically yes. Very, very few men have had the resources to run for this office with out seeking money, the mothers milk of politics, from others. So yes, the job comes with serious strings attached but that's the nature of politics and with rare exceptions is mostly been that way.
 
Derp Derp said:
Politically yes. Very, very few men have had the resources to run for this office with out seeking money, the mothers milk of politics, from others. So yes, the job comes with serious strings attached but that's the nature of politics and with rare exceptions is mostly been that way.
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It's far deeeper than that.

Every lever, every mechanism of mainstream American politics are owned by the corporate will lock, stock, and barrel .. which includes the very function of voting. They own it .. and only they do the counting.

It's all smoke and mirrors.
 
Derp Derp said:
:whoa:
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Well? Where is the answer to his question? Or do you have one?

Incompetent? I wouldn't say that about Harding.

He did a LOT for civil rights, he cracked down hard on lynchings in the South, which had gone unabated since the Civil War. Incompetence, Drip?

He was staunchly anti-war, and advocated peace with Germany and Austria. Incompetence?

Now.... 'conventional wisdom' says he was a bad president. I will admit that. But he wasn't incompetent.

People do not get to be the President of the United States of America through being incompetent.
 
Dixie said:
Well I assumed that's where the data comes from, idiot! Where did you think I believed the data came from, gnomes inside the hollow earth? (sorry brent)

I specifically asked how the data was derived, what was done to verify the data was accurate, and how do we know this? You can't answer.

And I guarantee, you add up the cost of all his vacations and golfing jaunts, the cost of flying Air Force One all over the world, and Air Force Two, so his wife can go 4hrs ahead of The Obama, the cost of all the security details involved, the Secret Service, another support plane to carry the entourage of personnel who accompany the First Family, and the money they've spent wining and dining our enemies.... the total bill is more than what we spent in Iraq on the actual war.
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Sorry - not even the smallest fraction of that.

I guess we can add "math" to the group of concepts you're suspicious of?
 
j-mac said:
Now all of the sudden time in the Senate matters? In 2008 I remember a one term Senator we were saying didn't have the experience to be President, and all you libs had a cow....Now it's different....Hypocrisy on display....
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I didn't say "it matters" as in it can't happen, obviously it did. How many times have we elected a Senator in modern times? - last I recall was JFK.

Obama had the "perfect storm" - Rubio coulld get one too, but what are the odds?

1. I ain't "]libs" I'm much more conservative then "progressives", but i do tend to be somewhat liberal on social issue, not the spending side though.
2. I'm not endorsing, or endorsing Rubio -merely pointing out , while Romney could use him, Rubio would be a fool to be used.
 
Derp Derp said:
Oh that's a good question. I'd say that number is probaby around 10%. There are certainly large numbers who support Obama based on identity politics though that number is not nearly as large as his opponents.
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I would say you are full of shit on your 10% guess.

More like 40-50% at least, it's hard to count really, because 'liberal white guilt' is hard to measure, it's well hidden. But I would say, aside from the 14% blacks who mostly only support him because he is black, there are at least 30% of the liberals out there, who also support him because he is black; Because they constantly charge 'racism' against anyone who criticizes him.

On the other hand... The GOP has a nominee who has studied every aspect of running for president the past 6 years, and he feels confident enough to float the idea of Condoleeza Rice as a running mate. One of the leading contenders for the challenge against Romney early on, was a black man named Herman Cain. Several staunch conservatives have mentioned Alan West, another black man, to be the VP pick. The most popular of ALL people in the GOP for VP, is Cuban-American. I see no indication that anywhere NEAR 10% of the party is overtly racist.
 
blackascoal said:
<laughing my ass off hilarious>

Let's blame the europeans for the failure of American capitalism :0)

.. amazing
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are you deliberately misrepresenting what I said or is it that you don't understand it.......I am not blaming Europeans for the failure of capitalism, I am blaming Americans who want to be like Europeans for fucking up the American economy......
 
Derp Derp said:
If you don't believe approximately 25% of the population don't oppose Obama because of race you are either incredibly niave or need to get out more often. I come from the rural midwest and have a lot of friends out there and I visit often and they don't spare my feelings about what they think about Obama.
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it has nothing to do with naivety.....it's that I refuse to buy into the lies you pick up from the Democratic Underground and HuffPo.......it isn't necessary to be racist to find sufficient reason to oppose Obama and the Democrats.....I dislike Reid as much as I dislike Obama.....how does that fit into your theory of racist criteria?.......
 
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