Demo's attacking the military right to vote....AGAIN!

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In a move that puts new meaning to the term battleground, President Obama's re-election campaign and members of some military groups are on a collision course over voting rights in the critical state of Ohio.
The Obama campaign and the Democratic National Committee have filed a lawsuit to block a new state law allowing men and women in uniform to vote up until the Monday right before an election, while the cutoff on early voting for the rest of the public is three days earlier.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-early-voting-law-for-military/#ixzz22gXcLZx3
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They ought to call this the Al Gore gambit. Truth is that the military has always been given special consideration in voting, and that the demo's know that overwhelmingly the military votes for the Repub candidate. So they attack the ability for them to speak. Deplorable if you ask me.

The men and women that are actually putting their lives on the line to protect this right, are under attack from exercising it....
 
You're a prime example of another misinformed Faux News viewer...LOL

The Romney campaign is totally unable to back up their candidate’s claim:

Romney’s spokesman, Ryan Williams, in an interview Saturday could point to no place in Obama’s lawsuit that seeks to restrict the rights of military voters…

Romney’s legal counsel, Katie Biber, said creating two separate classes of Ohio voters does not violate the 14th Amendment, though she also did not offer evidence that Obama’s lawsuit would make it tougher for members of the military to vote…

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2...o-restrict-military-voting-in-ohio/?mobile=nc
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SNOPES Fact Check Romney Claim "Obama Restricting Military Voting in Ohio" FALSE
http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/military.asp

Beware: Romney and The Right's New Lie: Obama Suing to Keep Soldiers from Voting (Update)
This is a story on Breitbart, by editor/lying hack Mike Flynn, that a friend who's a Marine vet forwarded along to me (no links for liars):

Anyone who wants to can view the actual complaint filed against Ohio. But much like Mitt Romney with Jared Diamond's book, I'm pretty certain that Mike Flynn never actually bothered to read what he was citing.

Flynn claims that the lawsuit is an attempt:

"to restrict ability to vote in the upcoming election."



That's a lie. The very first sentence of the actual complaint reads:

Plaintiffs bring this lawsuit to restore in-person early voting for all Ohioans during the three days prior to Election Day – a right exercised by an estimated 93,000 Ohioans in the last presidential election.

The request is simple and direct: expand early voting for all citizens, not just military members. In no universe is that the same as saying restrict early voting for all citizens, including military members. It's pretty much the opposite of that.

Next comes the claim that:

"the Obama for America Campaign, the Democratic National Committee and the Ohio Democratic Party filed suit in OH to strike down part of that state's law governing voting by members of the military."



Insert chorus of Simon & Garfunkle's "The Boxer" here.
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You can read the actual documents using a link provided here.
 
Haiku said:
You're a prime example of another misinformed Faux News viewer...LOL



SNOPES Fact Check Romney Claim "Obama Restricting Military Voting in Ohio" FALSE
http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/military.asp

Beware: Romney and The Right's New Lie: Obama Suing to Keep Soldiers from Voting (Update)


You can read the actual documents using a link provided here.
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Oh, thinkprogress, and demounderground say so? Well, that changes everything.....NOT! What would make you think that I would believe your propaganda?
 
j-mac said:
Oh, thinkprogress, and demounderground say so? Well, that changes everything.....NOT! What would make you think that I would believe your propaganda?
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Oh... so since it was reported by thinkprogress, that makes the facts unacceptable?

The FACT is that Democrats aren't sing to block early voting by Military members in Ohio, they are suing to have the SAME early voting rights restored to ALL OHIOANS...the same Ohioans that Ohio Republicans think so little of they took away their early voting rights last year.

Ohio’s Republican-controlled legislature last year enacted new voting restrictions that prevented most voters from casting early ballots after the Friday before the election. Members of the military, however, had their rights preserved, giving them until Monday to vote.

And all your cries of "propaganda" won't change the facts.
 
j-mac said:
They ought to call this the Al Gore gambit. Truth is that the military has always been given special consideration in voting, and that the demo's know that overwhelmingly the military votes for the Repub candidate. So they attack the ability for them to speak. Deplorable if you ask me.

The men and women that are actually putting their lives on the line to protect this right, are under attack from exercising it....
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Why should they get a special right to vote? I don't get one now that I'm out of the military. If I can't vote on election day because of work, that's tough shit. Same should apply to everyone who is in state (obviously absentee votes are a different story).
 
FN FS2000 said:
Why should they get a special right to vote? I don't get one now that I'm out of the military. If I can't vote on election day because of work, that's tough shit. Same should apply to everyone who is in state (obviously absentee votes are a different story).
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Consideration of Military vote has always been a bi partisan agreement in laws that protect their rights to have extended considerations...Overseas deployment, current conflicts, and other deployments are among the reasoning to allow their vote to count...

Now the libs want to skew the picture that they are just trying to restore that both absentee voting, and military voting have the same time periods, but as far as I understand the suit, they are doing that by taking away the additional three days that the military has, moving both deadlines back to the Friday before...That they can say with a straight face that they aren't trying to limit the Military vote is laughable, and should not be tolerated by America.
 
j-mac said:
Consideration of Military vote has always been a bi partisan agreement in laws that protect their rights to have extended considerations...Overseas deployment, current conflicts, and other deployments are among the reasoning to allow their vote to count...

Now the libs want to skew the picture that they are just trying to restore that both absentee voting, and military voting have the same time periods, but as far as I understand the suit, they are doing that by taking away the additional three days that the military has, moving both deadlines back to the Friday before...That they can say with a straight face that they aren't trying to limit the Military vote is laughable, and should not be tolerated by America.
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Just where do you get that crap? The lawsuit seeks to give the rights to vote absentee and early back where they were until the repubs restricted them back to the Friday before election day. It is the repubs restricting rights to vote and not the other way around. All Ohioans, military and otherwise, should be allowed to vote just like they were before the actions of the repubs to somehow restrict them. The statements and sources in the OP are bullshit. But they do get the weak-minded and paranoid all shook up, don't they?
 
j-mac said:
Consideration of Military vote has always been a bi partisan agreement in laws that protect their rights to have extended considerations...Overseas deployment, current conflicts, and other deployments are among the reasoning to allow their vote to count...

Now the libs want to skew the picture that they are just trying to restore that both absentee voting, and military voting have the same time periods, but as far as I understand the suit, they are doing that by taking away the additional three days that the military has, moving both deadlines back to the Friday before...That they can say with a straight face that they aren't trying to limit the Military vote is laughable, and should not be tolerated by America.
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So Ohio Republicans who unfairly skewed the vote to allow veterans. who historically have voted for the Republican candidate, extra time to vote that Joe Sixpack isn't given, isn't viewed as wrong in partisan Rightie eyes. But Democrat attempts to balance the scales so all voters have the SAME RIGHTS somehow is wrong to Republicans.
 
FN FS2000 said:
Why should they get a special right to vote? I don't get one now that I'm out of the military. If I can't vote on election day because of work, that's tough shit. Same should apply to everyone who is in state (obviously absentee votes are a different story).
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ZappasGuitar said:
Oh... so since it was reported by thinkprogress, that makes the facts unacceptable?

The FACT is that Democrats aren't sing to block early voting by Military members in Ohio, they are suing to have the SAME early voting rights restored to ALL OHIOANS...the same Ohioans that Ohio Republicans think so little of they took away their early voting rights last year.

Ohio’s Republican-controlled legislature last year enacted new voting restrictions that prevented most voters from casting early ballots after the Friday before the election. Members of the military, however, had their rights preserved, giving them until Monday to vote.

And all your cries of "propaganda" won't change the facts.
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I don't think they realize when we use sources like TP there is a legit source within. Like the WP or Reuters. And unlike Patriot 911 or whoever's silly, misspelled blog.

j-mac said:
Consideration of Military vote has always been a bi partisan agreement in laws that protect their rights to have extended considerations...Overseas deployment, current conflicts, and other deployments are among the reasoning to allow their vote to count...
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I'll give you partial credit. You got that part right.

j-mac said:
Now the libs want to skew the picture that they are just trying to restore that both absentee voting, and military voting have the same time periods, but as far as I understand the suit, they are doing that by taking away the additional three days that the military has, moving both deadlines back to the Friday before...That they can say with a straight face that they aren't trying to limit the Military vote is laughable, and should not be tolerated by America.
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I knew this was a lie...

http://www.chieftain.com/news/local...cle_1383c1ea-eb26-11e0-8e51-001cc4c002e0.html
Pueblo County Clerk Gilbert "Bo" Ortiz wanted an answer Thursday from [REPUBLICAN] Colorado Secretary of State Scott Gessler to a simple question but one heavily laced with politics: Could Ortiz send out roughly 70 mail ballots to registered county voters in the military, but who did not vote in the 2010 election?

"I want an order from the secretary's office by Friday (today) saying that I cannot send out those ballots because I believe I should under the (Uniform Military and Overseas Voters Act)," Ortiz said Thursday morning.

He got his answer at closing time Thursday. Gessler's letter to Ortiz said the secretary of state was sticking to his position that no inactive voters should get ballots sent to them this election — including out-of-area military voters, or those "covered" by the Uniform Military and Overseas Voters Act.

"A covered voter who is registered to vote may apply for a ballot. Ballots are not automatically sent to covered voters," Gessler's letter said. "Thus, Pueblo County may only send mail ballots to inactive voters who submit a timely request as required by the (Act)."

Perusing the letter Thursday night, Ortiz said Gessler had provided an order as asked.

Ortiz, however, said he wanted to discuss Gessler's letter with his legal adviser, Pueblo County Attorney Dan Kogovsek, before making a decision on the matter that has become more controversial with the added question of how inactive military voters should be treated.

The military voter issue is the latest twist in the confrontation between Gessler and two counties — Pueblo and Denver — over their intentions to send ballots to inactive voters this year. Denver Clerk Debra Johnson intends to send out about 55,000 ballots to inactive voters in that county, including military voters.

Ortiz has 17,000 ballots ready for inactive voters among the 82,000 he expects to mail out for the November election. He's already mailed out about 600 ballots to military voters who are considered active voters, meaning they voted in 2010. By law, military voters are supposed to get their ballots sent to them 45 days prior to an election.
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