today's liberal....

j-mac

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Last week I spent a few hours with one of America's finest writers. My old friend is still writing, producing some of the best fiction published in America today. And like most writers and intellectuals in this county, my friend is a staunch liberal.
He has been a liberal for over 60 years. Like many in his generation, his liberalism is a relic of the days when the left identified, or at least claimed to identify, with hard-pressed working men and the unemployed. My friend's liberalism has not evolved. It is stuck in fond memories of a childhood during which FDR's soothing voice filled the airwaves with those heartening fireside chats. For 11 years Roosevelt proclaimed that prosperity was "right around the corner." The corner was never turned, but three times the people reelected him.
That is the jolly, hopeful, "we're all in it together" sort of liberalism to which my writer friend still ascribes. He seems not to have noticed that the left has become at once more radical and more cynical. Today, the American left doesn't care a whit about hard-pressed workers or the unemployed -- not that it ever did. What now concerns the left are the massive donations from special interests that make it possible for radicals like Obama to occupy the White House.
Those special interests include unions, environmentalists, trial lawyers, billionaire financiers and entrepreneurs, academics, and minorities. This is not the same broad base that voted FDR into office. Unions no longer represent the poorly paid mass of workers -- they represent an elite whose wages and benefits far exceed those of non-unionized workers. Trial lawyers and academics constitute another elite, while minorities seek to preserve their supposed right to educational and hiring preferences. Environmentalists oppose growth at every turn, even at the expense of the livelihoods of their fellow men. In fact, none of these liberal special interests advances the needs of the broad middle class. All of them are working to further their own interests at the expense of ordinary Americans.
The left's special interests have sacrificed today's hard-pressed middle class on the altar of their own greed and lust for power. The Democratic Party promotes a slow-growth economy as the "new normal" because slow growth is the price it must pay to reward its special interests. Altogether, the cost of rewarding these interest groups is now slowing economic growth by an astounding two thirds. Instead of the normal 4% non-recessionary growth rate, our economy is now growing at 1.5%, about one third of what it should be doing. What is happening to the other 2.5% GDP growth? It is being redirected to the special interests that support the Democratic Party.
At every campaign stop, Obama claims to be "fighting for the middle class," but it is precisely the middle class that has been targeted by the left as the source of its funding for special interests. It is simply a fact that under Obama, ordinary Americans are making less, and their net worth has declined. Meanwhile, the number of Americans working has declined by 5.8 million since the start of the Great Recession. That's the same recession that Obama claims to be working night and day to reverse.
Why have ordinary Americans done so poorly under Obama? It is because Obama is fleecing them at every turn so he can reward his cherished special interests. Liberalism is now an elitist movement that preys on the middle class while it enriches special interests. It is conservatism that stands for ordinary working people.


Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/08/liberal_decay.html#ixzz22hxe8WWF

When will people wake up to this ideology of pure lies?
 
When will people wake up to this ideology of pure lies?

Which ideology would that be?

I, for one, am better off today than I was in January 2009.

What have conservatives done since then to improve the circumstances of most Americans?
 
it is not so much a conservative or liberal ideology ruining america. it is more an attitude of "mine, mine, mine" and a loss of decorum. this exists in every political group. i'm certainly not innocent of it either. i do, however, strive to get away from such a mind set.
 
Which ideology would that be?

I, for one, am better off today than I was in January 2009.

What have conservatives done since then to improve the circumstances of most Americans?

Funny none of your liberal cronies attacked you for your selfish "I got mine, fuck everyone else attitude"

Well, not funny nor surprising. I am doing better off since 2009 as well, but I don't claim to care about everyone else either. The stock market is going gangbusters for me. It is a traders dream. Short it one day, go long the next. I am loving the OWEbummer economy for myself because I have figured out how to financially gain from it.

Those OWEdummy claims to care about? Well, not so much for them. But, if they voted for the big eared kenyan born douchebag then they deserve what they get. I had a waiter once (after the 2008 election) have on an OWEbummer pin with that dopey symbol. I did not leave him a tip and left a nice little note on the receipt explaining that since OWEbummer is raising my taxes, he needs to help offset that incease in my costs by limiting his tip. Too bad for him
 
I'm doing far better than I was in 2009.

Got 6 million stashed away in a secret bank in Germany.

Oh.

Wait.

Nevahmind!
 
Funny none of your liberal cronies attacked you for your selfish "I got mine, fuck everyone else attitude" Well, not funny nor surprising. I am doing better off since 2009 as well, but I don't claim to care about everyone else either. The stock market is going gangbusters for me. It is a traders dream. Short it one day, go long the next. I am loving the OWEbummer economy for myself because I have figured out how to financially gain from it. Those OWEdummy claims to care about? Well, not so much for them. But, if they voted for the big eared kenyan born douchebag then they deserve what they get. I had a waiter once (after the 2008 election) have on an OWEbummer pin with that dopey symbol. I did not leave him a tip and left a nice little note on the receipt explaining that since OWEbummer is raising my taxes, he needs to help offset that incease in my costs by limiting his tip. Too bad for him

Where did I say anything remotely resembling "I got mine, fuck everyone else"?

Since 'facts are stubborn', care to cite the source of that contention - and prove Obama was born in Kenya, while you're at it?
 
Cite specific examples of how progressivism has "trashed" America, and how conservatives have "slowed the tide" of that trashing.

There is definitely an entitlement philosophy at large these days. It is all very well being bellicose about rights, but with those rights there are also responsibilities.
 
There is definitely an entitlement philosophy at large these days. It is all very well being bellicose about rights, but with those rights there are also responsibilities.

Lil' j-mac doesn't need your help, Big Brother. Especially if it's in the form of vague, useless generalities.

Let him answer for himself. He made the claim. Let him support it. With cited, specific facts.
 
Good tax rate in Germany?

:D

It's like 45%. That's why I moved all my bazillions to my mattress. Did you know Germany has the second highest tax rate in the world, behind Belgium?

Anyone who would put their money in a German bank or investment company must be a brain dead buffoon!
 
It's like 45%. That's why I moved all my bazillions to my mattress. Did you know Germany has the second highest tax rate in the world, behind Belgium?

Anyone who would put their money in a German bank or investment company must be a brain dead buffoon!

Or an inbred rube or something. :D
 
'Facts R AWOL' and 'j-mac & cheese' seem short of persuasive arguments.
 
Which ideology would that be?

I, for one, am better off today than I was in January 2009.

What have conservatives done since then to improve the circumstances of most Americans?


Well, if you're better off, thats all that counts........typical for a pinhead.
 
Well, if you're better off, thats all that counts........typical for a pinhead.

I didn't say that's all that counts, did I, Blabo?

Want to explain what conservatives have done in the past 4 years to improve the lot of the average American?

Poor Blabo.
 
It's like 45%. That's why I moved all my bazillions to my mattress. Did you know Germany has the second highest tax rate in the world, behind Belgium?

Anyone who would put their money in a German bank or investment company must be a brain dead buffoon!

The Scandinavian countries have far higher tax rates.
 
Like what?



And that's because of "radical progressivism"? How so?



Interesting claim.

Make a list of the actions conservatives took that "slowed" the "tide", and then explain why you're complaining.


Why would you expect those NOT in power to be responsible for everything ?

Democrats control 2/3 of the government, all the committees, and have 99% of the media refusing to say a bad word about the state of the country and most of it
people......and a president that rules by indict when the congress refuses to do his bidding.
When you control 2/3 of the government, you have control......as was obvious in 2006.......


Sorry to see you're back.
 
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