OBAMA’S COLLEGE CLASSMATE: ‘THE OBAMA SCANDAL IS AT COLUMBIA’

j-mac said:
A majority or repubs? I don't think so....Ya know, except for liberals making this charge all the time I don't hear too many repubs making any kind of hay out of the BC at all...I think you may be listening too much to the liberal echo chamber.
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Dartmouth/YouGov poll, page 26:

Q64: Which of the following statements best describes your views on whether Barack Obama was born in the United States or another country?

I have always believed President Obama was born in another country.

All 25.5%
Democrat 5.3%
Republican 55.6%
Independent 24.6%
Not Sure 24.4%

http://www.dartmouth.edu/~benv/files/poll responses by party ID.pdf
 
Bijou said:
Except the post where you say you are "in fact an attorney", and then the post today where you insinuate that you are not a lawyer.

Case closed.

You're welcome.
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i insinuated nothing liar. i merely asked who said it because i have had some stalkers on here who've posted information about my life. how many times do i have to explain this to you? how many times? 10?

idiot liar.
 
j-mac said:
Are you kidding here Christie? The "fogbow" :rofl2: A gathering of liberal anonymous internet thugs, who's leader is afraid to use of even give his name? Using DailyKOS, or Demo underground, or thinkprogress is one thing, at least their lies can be traced to the individuals running the operation, but this, is a group of thug wannabe's that touts that they can hack, and destroy those that don't agree with them....Is this what you find credible?
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So you're going to focus on the name of the site rather than the names of all the people who were friends, classmates and professors of Obama, not to mention a screen shot of his graduation program?

Are you kidding me j-mac?
 
A conservative conversation about fogbow.com's leader, a guy that calls himself PJ Foggy is here...

"James Comer It was interesting to listen to Foggy interviewed... he talks too much, is long winded, and talks over the host in order to either divert the host or to take up time to keep the host from getting in points...I dunno... but I just wanna know...
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August 9, 2011 at 10:27pm

David Apetz I can attest that PJ Foggy is NOT a nice guy. He uses aliases, brags about being able to forge documents and hack computers and has personally threatened me on the WND site.
August 9, 2011 at 11:23pm"

http://www.facebook.com/jerome.cors...?comment_id=668066&offset=0&total_comments=34

So, you got a guy that brags that he is a master at "forging documents" and the libs in here think it is "kickass" to use him as credible proof of anything?

What the hell is wrong with you people?
 
christiefan915 said:
So you're going to focus on the name of the site rather than the names of all the people who were friends, classmates and professors of Obama, not to mention a screen shot of his graduation program?

Are you kidding me j-mac?
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No christie, I am focusing on who the site is, not what they call themselves...They are internet jokes. And further, you damage your credibility by using them, and I have more respect for you than to see you do that...Now it is possible that you just did a google search, and that was the first BS you came across that bolstered what you wanted it to say, but I implore you, think about it...Look into who they are for God's sake, is that who you really want to use?
 
j-mac said:
No christie, I am focusing on who the site is, not what they call themselves...They are internet jokes. And further, you damage your credibility by using them, and I have more respect for you than to see you do that...Now it is possible that you just did a google search, and that was the first BS you came across that bolstered what you wanted it to say, but I implore you, think about it...Look into who they are for God's sake, is that who you really want to use?
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What I want is for you to look at all the pictures and read all the text, and tell me what is false. Provably false, not IMO false.
 
christiefan915 said:
What I want is for you to look at all the pictures and read all the text, and tell me what is false. Provably false, not IMO false.
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Anything posted by this "PJ Foggy" is pure shit. Hell, it's not even his real name...Can you authenticate any of it? No?

Sorry, but I've had it up to here with the "some guy told me" BS. Now either show some real verifiable proof of anything, or just admit that you thought you had something, and made a mistake...No harm in that.

Good night.
 
Columbia Records
Claim: Barack Obama did not attend Columbia University.

FALSE

Card Trick
Claim: A 1981 Columbia University student ID card identifies Barack Obama as a foreign student named Barry Soetoro.

FALSE

Paper Trail
Claim: Barack Obama's thesis for Columbia University, entitled "Aristocracy Reborn," noted that America's founding fathers "did not allow for economic freedom."

FALSE

http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-...date-range=-1&sp-x=any&sp-c=100&sp-m=1&sp-s=0
 
j-mac said:
Ofcourse you'd think so...:rolleyes:
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And you continue to spout off how ThinkProgress, Huffpost, etc. tell lies, but you've yet to substantively demonstrate how and when, other than to post hack blogger bullshit pieces that say otherwise, with no verifiable source to back up the claim. Facts matter. I know that's a foreign concept to followers of liar Limbaugh, nutjob Beck and shrieking Hannity, but get used to it. Goebbels-esque repetition does not a fact make.
 
j-mac said:
Anything posted by this "PJ Foggy" is pure shit. Hell, it's not even his real name...Can you authenticate any of it? No?

Sorry, but I've had it up to here with the "some guy told me" BS. Now either show some real verifiable proof of anything, or just admit that you thought you had something, and made a mistake...No harm in that.

Good night.
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Are you suggesting these are not real people?

Phil Boerner, Classmate and Roommate
"At Oxy, we attended some of the same social events and had late-night philosophical discussions related to our college reading or to current affairs. We attended rallies on campus where we were urged to “draft beer, not people,” and discussed the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, apartheid in South Africa, the hostages in Iran and the Contras in Latin America."

Sohale Siddiqi, Classmate and Roommate
"When Obama arrived in New York, he already knew Siddiqi — a friend of [Occidental Classmates] Chandoo's and Hamid's from Karachi who had visited Los Angeles. Looking back, Siddiqi acknowledges that he and Obama were an odd couple. Siddiqi would mock Obama's idealism — he just wanted to make a lot of money and buy things, while Obama wanted to help the poor.

"At that age, I thought he was a saint and a square, and he took himself too seriously," Siddiqi said. "I would ask him why he was so serious. He was genuinely concerned with the plight of the poor. He'd give me lectures, which I found very boring. He must have found me very irritating."

Michael J. Wolf, Classmate
"...who took the seminar with [Obama] and went on to become president of MTV Networks, said: “He was very smart. He had a broad sense of international politics and international relations. It was a class with a lot of debate. He was a very, very active participant. I think he was truly distinctive from the other people in that class. He stood out.”

Michael Ackerman, Classmate
"A young man with a red backpack often lingered outside the International Affairs Building. He was a commuter student, so he typically arrived early, but the door to his Modern Political Movements class was always locked until the last minute. His classmate, Michael Ackerman, CC ’84, always forgot whether his name was Barry or Barack. He knew that “Barak” means “thunder” in Hebrew, but Ackerman didn’t think he looked Jewish. Ackerman said he found his fellow political science major “charming,” but the two remained only casual acquaintances.

Barack Obama, CC ’83, was “almost chameleon-like, spy-like, slipped in and out,” Ackerman recalled. “He tried to keep to himself.”

According to Ackerman, who is now a lawyer in California, Obama sometimes played pick-up games of basketball and went to a few meetings of the Black Students Organization, but “he didn’t really hang out much” and kept his nose in the books. “At that time, a lot of commuters at Columbia weren’t as involved as people who lived on campus,” Ackerman said.

Jim Davidson, Classmate
"You see, I met Wayne Root in Topeka, Kansas (at the zoo) for the Kansas state Libertarian Party convention. And I informed him that I met Barack Obama at Columbia University when we were both students there in Spring 1983. So Wayne is lying when he asserts, “No one I know from Columbia University has ever met or heard of a classmate named Barack Obama or Barry Sotero.”

Cathie M. Currie, Graduate Student
"Thank you for refuting the crazed claims that Barack was not at Columbia ["Obama at Columbia University," Feb. 16].

I knew him while he was there. He was remarkable then, but not in the way that most people think of as "remarkable." He was not trying to be noticed — he was studious and thoughtful. I said of him: "Whatever Barack decides to do for a career, he will be the best at it." When he left our group he was often on his way to a library."

Lennard Davis, Assistant Professor (Now Professor at University of Illinois at Chicago)
"In the spring of 1983, I was Barack Obama's professor at Columbia University. Barack, or Barry as he was known then, was a senior in my class on "The Novel and Ideology." I understand from reliable sources that he liked the class and was intrigued by what I was teaching. What I taught was that while a novelist, which Obama aspired to be at that point, might feel free to improvise and create, the culture and its ideology would ultimately determine the novelist's innovations. "

Michael L. Baron, Professor of Political Science
...who taught the year-long honors seminar in American Foreign Policy that Barack Obama took during his senior year at Columbia and recalled in an NBC interview Obama's "easily acing" the class and receiving an A for his senior paper on the topic of nuclear negotiations with the Soviet Union.
 
Q: What's up with "Columbo" and his questions for Obama?
A: The interrogator in a chain e-mail gets his facts fouled up and makes false accusations.


This tactic is repeated in other questions that are meant to raise suspicions by asking for records that aren't ordinarily made public, without any evidence that those records contain anything derogatory. "Columbo" notes that Obama's student records from Occidental College, Columbia University and Harvard Law School are "not released," for example. But the truth is that it would be illegal under federal law (the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act of 1974) for those institutions to give those records to reporters or members of the public without Obama's specific, written permission. Obama hasn't given that permission, but other presidential candidates generally don't either. George W. Bush didn't give permission to either Andover or Yale to release his grades when he was running for president, for example, according to a 1999 profile in the Washington Post. Bush's grades at Yale eventually became public, but only because somebody leaked them to the New Yorker magazine. We have no idea whether any embarrassing secrets might yet be lurking in Obama's old student records. But neither does the author of this "Columbo" interrogation."

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/01/clueless-columbo/
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
I wasn't aware that there was a new definition of perspective and that it meant protection for the one you support during the election.
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While the death of the border guard is a tragedy the perspective is taking into account one person died while revealing the "program" may well result in a disruption in foreign relations not to mention the spin the Repubs would put on it in order to garner the Mexican vote.
 
apple0154 said:
While the death of the border guard is a tragedy the perspective is taking into account one person died while revealing the "program" may well result in a disruption in foreign relations not to mention the spin the Repubs would put on it in order to garner the Mexican vote.
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So that's why Obama refuses to release the records!! :eek:

He's afraid that after it's shown what he did to Mexico, that the Hispanics won't vote for him.


Didn't he run on a platform of transparency?? :palm:
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
So that's why Obama refuses to release the records!! :eek:

He's afraid that after it's shown what he did to Mexico, that the Hispanics won't vote for him.

Didn't he run on a platform of transparency?? :palm:
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Yes, transparency but not divulging sensitive information. We know the government ran F & F. We know they got Bin Laden. Are we to expect they divulge the intimate details of each? Does the death of one civilian justify jeopardizing foreign relations? And then there's the spin the Repubs would put on it and distract from the important things to be discussed during election time.
 
apple0154 said:
Yes, transparency but not divulging sensitive information. We know the government ran F & F. We know they got Bin Laden. Are we to expect they divulge the intimate details of each? Does the death of one civilian justify jeopardizing foreign relations? And then there's the spin the Repubs would put on it and distract from the important things to be discussed during election time.
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So you admit that Obama is hiding his involvement in this; ie: "sensitive information".

Obama is responsible for the Border Guard being killed and is trying to hide the information.
Like you said; where there's smoke......................you know the rest.
 
Bijou said:
And you continue to spout off how ThinkProgress, Huffpost, etc. tell lies, but you've yet to substantively demonstrate how and when, other than to post hack blogger bullshit pieces that say otherwise, with no verifiable source to back up the claim. Facts matter. I know that's a foreign concept to followers of liar Limbaugh, nutjob Beck and shrieking Hannity, but get used to it. Goebbels-esque repetition does not a fact make.
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I think it's hilarious that you with a straight face can spew off about this, knowing the hacks that your leftie sites are, yet have the gall to criticize my use of different web sites on the right....Sol Alinsky lives. In any case, I am going to show exactly why these sites are not credible, and should be mocked and scoffed at every turn. Fogbow is no exception, with its dis barred, dis credited founder Bill Bryan, and his dailyKOS rejects. They are thugs, and hacks, and shouldn't be given the time of day. But that'll come later. Now, I must go to work, then compile my research, and when I get done with you Bijou, you'll know that your anger driven Bull Shit is exposed. So, enjoy, while you still can without shame.
 
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