I'm not making any excuses, I am simply stating a fact of life. The Republican party is the only party you can expect to even attempt to reel spending back in. Democrats certainly aren't going to cut farm subsidies, or any other subsidy, they want to do MORE! But Republicans aren't going to do it if we don't send them to Washington TO do it, and hold them accountable if they don't. You seem to have already given up on the system, the process, how politics work in the real world.
Show me when the GOP was in power (House, Senate and White House) where they attempted to reel spending back in. Show me. Show me one time they tried to cut ANY subsidies. Last I looked, they increased the debt quite a bit. You are confusing terms in my view. There are Republicans and there are Conservatives. I am tired of sending Republicans to Washington who say one thing then do another.
Nope. Not what I am saying. I am asking you what your plan is for when the general public becomes incensed and outraged over the draconian sort of cuts you want to make, and you haven't given me an answer to that. I have asked you if you had solutions for the problems it would create, which was the purpose and reason for us giving the subsidy in the first place? Ya didn't answer... instead you ran to the old familiar box of cynical remembrance, and seemingly bitter vitriol for the only party that can give you anything remotely close to what you want.
The public can be incensed at the spending cuts or they can be incensed at rolling a wheel barrel full of benjamins to the Piggly Wiggly just to buy a loaf of bread which is where we are headed. This isn't about policy or politics. It isn't a game. It is a function of math. And the fact of the matter is that we need draconian cuts to get our fiscal house in order. The current crop in Washington just wants to dicker around the edges. If people are going to be pissed about the cuts, then fuck em. They deserve what they get. And boy are they going to get it.
I am all for doing the right thing, but things need to be done in a precise way, and to a measured degree, and we have to look at benefit vs. cost, and how things may effect other things. Subsidies are sometimes like fingers in the dam, we need to have something figured out first, to address whatever problem it will create by eliminating the subsidy.
Funny you and your ilk don't address how things effect other things when the subsidies were put in place to begin with. I highlighted two areas where subsidies screw the American people but you remain mum. Interesting.
I didn't say ALL subsidies, but generally speaking, aren't MOST subsidies created for some reason, to address some concern? I would think if we just have politicians voting for subsidies that simply existed to line the pockets of their cronies, we could impeach them and throw the bums out of office, so I have to imagine most legislation which passes the House and Senate, probably has some justifiable purpose or reason. Don't you guess?
I don't mean to offend, but this is arguably one of the most naive things I have heard in a long time. Of course the politicians are voting to line the pockets of their cronies. Do you really think they are looking out for our best interests or their own? Impeach them? For fiddling away our money? Are you high? When has that ever happened?
Don't talk down to me on this subject, I have a degree in Business Management. I certainly DO know how free markets work. In principle, you are right! It is far BETTER for us to NOT subsidize anything, and let the chips fall where they may with capitalist enterprise. Even better if we can eliminate governmental regulation entirely, but we can't. And we don't have a time machine..... We can't go back and Unfuckulate it! We are blessed with what we have, and in order to change it radically, we need a plan for how to deal with the many problems and pitfalls it causes. That's a reality you need to face, not me.
OK, you say you know how free markets work, then from what I read in your posts, you don't really trust them. They are more than a principle. The free market is like abstinence, it works every time it is tried. It provides for more prosperity than any other central planning you can devise.
Do you know how much area of land it takes to grow the wheat to make a 5lb bag of flour? Have you ever had to grind wheat into flour? Do you have any idea how much a bag of flour would cost if American wheat farmers weren't subsidized, and decided to grow something more profitable? There is a HUGE market and demand for flour, the problem is SUPPLY! Cutting subsidies means less supply, because wheat is probably the least profitable grain you can produce. Therefore, a typical loaf of sandwich bread will be about $15~20.... you have a plan for that?
There is so much here, it is hard to know where to start. First of all, I don't need to know how much land it takes to grow wheat to make a 5 lb bag of flour. I don't have to know how to grind wheat into flour. My guess is that if four weren't subsidized, it bring what the market could bear. Now first you say it is more profitable to grow something other than wheat, but next you say there is a HUGE demand for flour. Well, if there is a HUGE demand, then supply will adjust to meet that demand in order to create profit. That is how supply and demand works. You say you have a degree in business management, I suggest you ask for a refund (yes, I was being condescending). Just by this mere statement you show a complete lack of knowledge or faith in the free market. Flour is no different than iPhones. If there is demand, there will always be profit. It is only when there isn't demand when a company demands subsidies ala Solyndra. You can't oppose Solyndra subsidies and then support farm subsidies. Sorry, but it doesn't work that way. The same economic principles apply. You can't twist economics on its head to suit your own biases.
I don't think that, I think YOU are a cynical wacko extremist, who is more a part of the problem than the solution, to be honest.
We don't have a time machine... If we did, I could go back any change what Republicans did in the past, heck... maybe even get back a few trillion wasted dollars the Democrats tricked us into spending, who knows? But I do not have a time machine, I can't change what people have done before. I can't undo the many years of pandering liberals and conservatives, handing out subsidies to everyone left, right, and center. All I can do is support people who say they are going to cut spending and get our budget in order, and then hold them accountable for action. Right now, it is Tea Party Conservatives who will get my vote, they are the only ones who seem to understand what needs to be done.
